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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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Polling in general was insanely off. There isn't a statistical model in the universe that could have caught this outcome with the information we had. Had we known this is how the race looked in the summer, I can guarantee you it would have been played differently. Clinton's team was running the most data driven campaign we've ever seen and their inputs were wrong the whole time. If they made a mistake, that was it. Maybe they should have gone more traditional and not tried to expand the map at all.
Don't leave dude, but hit me up if you do. Or at least stay in touch.
metalslimer
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This is what hurts the most. I'll never be able to be optimistic again in my life in an election
Psychoward
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And 4 years before they rejected an old, conservative white man and here we are.
Warren also doesn't have the (unfair) baggage that Clinton has. I don't know what to do at this point, but it's clear policy is less important than we ever thought considering Trump did a 180 on some popular Republican positions and still came out unscathed.
soundscream
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My firsy 2 elections were the GWB elections, I was upset but I could understand why he would have enouph support to win. But this......I thought the country while still flawed had progressed enoupgh to not let this happen. Feels bad man.
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/600/will-i-know-anyone-at-this-party
You should listen to this podcast episode.
Personally, these republican voters do not seem to be suffering from economic anxiety. They are just suffering from straight up racism.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
People talking about polls. Nationally speaking, Clinton performed basically in-line with the national polls, exceeding many of them: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/
The problem was undecideds. There is nothing polling can do if people haven't decided or are unwilling to commit an answer.
The problem with polling is that the aggregates underestimated undecided votes.
The problem was undecideds. There is nothing polling can do if people haven't decided or are unwilling to commit an answer.
The problem with polling is that the aggregates underestimated undecided votes.
shinra-bansho
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"Economic anxiety at brown people."
Sure.
Trump launched his political career on the back of calling the first black President a foreign-born Muslim.
He launched his campaign calling Mexicans rapists.
He celebrates being "right" about a Muslim shooting up a gay nightclub to justify his ban on them.
He talks about "these people" i.e. black people, brown people, taking the election stoking fears about how "there's something going on here."
On the plus side, look, all those poorer voters who don't vote that liberals are always talking about came out and voted. For Trump.
Yeh. I'm sure Donald Trump wouldn't be able to get his coalition of the shittastic to come out against a Warren.
It wasn't so much the undecided as the unreliable. Trump won thanks to the unreliable voters who almost never turn out.
BreezyLimbo
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Scary part. White majority exists. race traitors exist. anger and fear wins over rationality. I've been told minorities will rise as the majority. white people aren't as many. It feels like it's bene a lie. I always believe mexicans would be a force in america. it was a lie. My race is a failure. mexico bene fucked, fucked further.
They were probably too busy on Election Day working on their hot takes on how Bernie would have done better.
aspiegamer
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Observation: The tea party weirdos of the House might actually step up and oppose Trump proposals with Democrats since alllllllllllll of them drive the deficit and debt up. Though I don't hold out hope on this. They'll cave to get most of what they wanted and suffer no consequences for it.
Astaleview
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People deleting accounts for real? C'mon man.
I appreciate this. I would like to be wrong.
Looking at election results in some places like in the south and southwest they did vote in big numbers but it was not enough to prevent trump from winning this election
soundscream
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One positive, there will be some great creative works created during this dark timeline.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Jive Turkey
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My wife and I have been trying to conceive our second but we are having reservations at the moment. We both still want another kid but we want to make sure we can afford it...
metalslimer
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I just don't know if I can get excited for an election to stop him. At least with someone like Kerry there was always some doubt even though election day gave some hope. I don't think I'll ever be able watch election day the same way again.
I will do my best to fight him but it feels so futile at this point. I hope everyone here can stay together as a community through thjs
I will do my best to fight him but it feels so futile at this point. I hope everyone here can stay together as a community through thjs
Already Torn
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There are lots of racists in the country here too.
BreezyLimbo
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the white majority was just ibgger
it just was
every minority may ahve voted but white majority was greater and more fueled to vote than minority. Minorities were insulted and yet the white majority was more fueled to vote.
Record turnouts sure, but that didn't mean anything. Record turnouts for minorities, the majority eclipsed them. Please trump don't sleep on climate change. its' a real thing. I don't want my children to live in a world where the heat will kill them.
No one showed this outcome as possible. The state polls were in line with the national ones.
Look at it this way. The GOP and trump can't ignore how bad trump did in some states today especially in the southeast and southwest. Trump and the GOP are lucky that none of the traditional red states he won by like 4 or 5 points in the south flipped this election.
BoboBrazil
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Going to crash. Stock market will too.
I totally understand and can't blame you for considering that. I'll miss your posts and opinions of certain subjects though
Good luck and I hope for the best for you and your family if you choose to leave.
Honestly? Not very well.
With a good charismatic candidate I can see myself being hyped. Who that is going to be is going to be the real question.
I hope the DNC does some serious soul searching. I'm convinced a solid candidate who is also charming like Obama can win.
Ours won't be the only one either. No one is going to like this development.
Obama's a once in a generation politician. We won't see anyone like him for a long time. People need to learn that hardly anyone is Obama level.
A) I think this will happen.
B) 2018 senate map not good for dems - which would mean there would have to be drastic change in the electorate
Dominican Power
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This is going to be one the worst administrations ever.
There's racists everywhere in the USA.
At least I can hope Maryland won't wreck its education system when I get my degree in school counseling or school psych.
No.
soundscream
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I wonder if Trump will start pulling us out militarily around the world?
Astaleview
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So Adam is really gone?
Yes, to send them into Iran and Syria within 2 years of his presidency.
Looks like it. A few others too it seems.
Lightning_Roller
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My god. The future is looking bleaker and bleaker with each hour.
BoboBrazil
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Republicans are great at starting wars to profit their companies. I'd expect another war within his 4 years.
His posts are showing as User1608 and as banned.
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