Wouldn't redistricting come after the 2020 census? Meaning, if Dems win enough state races in 2020, they can peel back the House gerrymandering?
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Wouldn't redistricting come after the 2020 census? Meaning, if Dems win enough state races in 2020, they can peel back the House gerrymandering?
TheLostBigBoss
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Well. That happened.
America just made the biggest mistake in it's history. I hope the people who voted against it aren't hurt too much.
But I hope the people who voted Johnson + Trump get first hand seats at the mess, economically + globally they are about to bring, and I hope they suffer all for it.
America just made the biggest mistake in it's history. I hope the people who voted against it aren't hurt too much.
But I hope the people who voted Johnson + Trump get first hand seats at the mess, economically + globally they are about to bring, and I hope they suffer all for it.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Depends. Is their absence because Trump and republicans simply didn't have their heart in that, or because of democratic "obstruction"
Poodlestrike
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Sure, why not? They didn't give a fuck about reality this go 'round, Trump will just find another scapegoat and that's that.
I don't doubt that Bannon will have a lot of sway. That's why I'm looking to GTFO, we put a man in the oval office who has an ACTUAL NAZI whispering in his ear.
We would also need the Supreme Court to defend any changes we made against lawsuits, and that's not going to fucking happen. Garland isn't getting the nod, they're going to stick Scalia 2.0 on the bench, except he'll be in his 40s and half as smart.
shinra-bansho
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Seriously, people think if someone was running around talking about nothing but Dodd-Frank and Glass-Steagall, Citizen's United and Wall Street rural white people would suddenly be all aboard...
Maybe "disastrous trade policies" I guess.
Mexican border wall paid for by Mexico.
A Muslim ban "until we know what's going on."
Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe v Wade, gay marriage etc.
Renegotiate and cancel trade deals.
Lock her up.
Oh repeal Obamacare.
The GOP owes control of the Senate to Trump. He owes them nothing.
He can make Reince Priebus go up to the mic and perform for him like a jester on live TV.
Maybe "disastrous trade policies" I guess.
Off the top of my head.
Mexican border wall paid for by Mexico.
A Muslim ban "until we know what's going on."
Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe v Wade, gay marriage etc.
Renegotiate and cancel trade deals.
Lock her up.
Oh repeal Obamacare.
The GOP owes control of the Senate to Trump. He owes them nothing.
He can make Reince Priebus go up to the mic and perform for him like a jester on live TV.
banefirelord
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...I'm actually on board with this.
This right here is why I've dialed back my panic a few notches. Trump's a total gish-galloping wildcard who spent just as much time as a Democrat as he has as a Republican. It's going to be a shitshow on a ton of levels regardless of what happens but it's also gonna be much more uncertain than my apocalyptic Fourth Reich chicken littling from last night.
Ether_Snake
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It's so obvious it played a huge role, Obama was an outsider eight years ago, it's why he beat Clinton to the nom and then won. It's why Bernie had so much support and Trump as well. It wad clear for eight years and even more that people hated old Washington more than anything.
People have wanted "change" all along. Can't see how anyone can be surprised at this, you can always see this kind of win come from miles away. I think only Americans don't see this often but if you live outside the US or follow foreign politics you saw this play out again and again.
Dominican Power
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Now the media is trying to rationalize this shit. Now Donald Trump didn't mean all that shit he spewed to get elected. Give me a fucking break.
I agree with this. If all else fails, Michelle could break her assurance that she would never run for President to deliver us from evil, like Hattori Hanzo in Kill Bill
JetBlackPanda
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Holy shit facebook is a disaster.
Romney posting about celebrities leaving the country and Ted Cruz talking about the conservative agenda that needs to be instituted day 1.
This really is the darkest timeline.
My poor 4 year old daughter.
Romney posting about celebrities leaving the country and Ted Cruz talking about the conservative agenda that needs to be instituted day 1.
This really is the darkest timeline.
My poor 4 year old daughter.
the only policy of clinton's they cared about is her taking away their guns (true or not). i'm seeing a bunch of that shit on facebook about how they get to keep their guns.
The signs were there back in the primaries. Bernie doing so well against Clinton was a massive red flag that was ignored by too many people.
CitizenVectron
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Does this make Canada the last liberal/progressive western country?
Poodlestrike
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Romney is ok with a Trunp win?
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder how long before that falls
cartoon_soldier
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People didn't want change, people wanted someone who would stop the change that is already happening.
Hillary outperformed Obama in FL where she needed to. Trump outperformed Romney even more. Unreliable white voters who stayed home in 2012 showed up.
Black Mamba
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no, the red flags were Trump doing as well as he did in the primaries...
Bernie's loss was routine. This Bernie stuff doesn't make sense to me at all.
Then again, this election came from seemingly nowhere so I'm not the best judge, obviously. None of us are, I suppose.
ErasureAcer
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Depressing, Not enough middle class Dems showed up in many places, that's for sure.
Life is so unfair to those who make 50k+...bunch of fucking idiots.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Spekaing of Cruz, he is probably devastated. He truly believed he was the next Reagan. That's out the window now.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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I seriously can't stand cold weather but I'm giving serious thought to the idea of moving to Canada for the first time in my life.
Republicans will just blame Obama.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Man, if Bill really had that phone call with Trump last year, he is SO sleeping on the couch now.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
When Pence was asked about VP, Trump's son specifically told him he'd be "in charge of foreign and domestic policy." He absolutely is going to be making decisions.
I give up on humanity. I don't think I'm ever going to recover. I'm a shell of my former self.
They tried that already. Didn't work.
aspiegamer
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Pray the broader media suffers from this, but it could be in the form of censorship and intimidation instead of actual lessons learned. Only a few outlets and dedicated writers came down on Trump hard and pushed it. All the worse, the president already has his own literal propaganda network. It'll be totally neutral and trustworthy, I'm sure.
Any actually suffering they may or may not go through is going to be nothing like what a lot of minorities are going to have to deal with, sadly. And other countries, religious groups, the environment and countless other things. Not sure if wishing for suffering is particularly constructive, but I relate to the sentiment. Now, the 24/7 and clickbait media I do actively hope they suffer, as I said above. Die in a fire, please. All of you.
Black Mamba
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bernie lost Prop 61 in liberal bastion California. He campaigned and advertised for this HARD.
But yeah, he totally would have been the difference against Trump.
But yeah, he totally would have been the difference against Trump.
Ether_Snake
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He won't! Trump doesn't want to be running around, Pence will be his secretary. People who think Trump isn't seeing Pence as his worst enemy don't get it, and the guy will fall in line.
No one can tell Trump what is the right thing to do or think after this win. Pence was forced on him and he was never someone Trump would listen to. Trump will be listening to HIS gang which in no way involves Pence.
Why should we pray our already weak institutions are weakened further?
Look, I wanted Hillary to be our president so badly. I wanted her to be the first woman president. But we lost. We're set back probably 10 years or so. It really sucks. There are people that will be so negatively impacted by this that I am certain their survival is at stake. I don't feel good about it, and you shouldn't either. I don't think wishing a pox on anyone is going to help.
Except for Trump. Pox on trump please.
Look, I wanted Hillary to be our president so badly. I wanted her to be the first woman president. But we lost. We're set back probably 10 years or so. It really sucks. There are people that will be so negatively impacted by this that I am certain their survival is at stake. I don't feel good about it, and you shouldn't either. I don't think wishing a pox on anyone is going to help.
Except for Trump. Pox on trump please.
Any Bernie win would be propagated on him holding the blue wall. He probably wins MI, WI and PA. I doubt the rural votes deliver in the same way against him.
balladofwindfishes
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Me too
I was so optimistic our country was heading to something great and special. That only time needed to move and things would get better
Now I'm convinced Obama was a fluke and this country is a disgusting pit of hate
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
So once again we have a president that didn't win the popular vote. Sigh....
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Black Mamba, without wanting to be mean you've been wrong about effectively everything this cycle, from how well Sanders would do (I can find stuff in your post history saying he'd only win Vermont in the primary), to why 538 totally sucked (best performing of the major models), to how Clinton was going to romp it home. Maybe it might be time to start reconsidering some of your beliefs?
CreepingFear
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I work in a liberal environment. I can't imagine those that have to go to work with Trump supporters. They have my sympathy.
CrimzonSamurai
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I don't think Bernie would have done much better. He was still a career politician. Trump still plays the greater outsider.
Also media is all like "democrat Donald? Democrat donald?" Wishful thinking.
Maybe he'll turn out to be a Jacksonian shaker-upper instead of an insane despot... uh without the genocide of course.
Scandinavia is still cool too, I think?
harriet the spy
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10 years? With one or two Supreme Court nom ? That's very hopeful.
nature boy
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I can't believe Toomey won.
Portman won by over 20.
jfc
Portman won by over 20.
jfc
Black Mamba
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He wouldn't. Minority vote would have gone down in places like Philly and Detroit.
In the end, you need to be charismatic to win soft Democrats to the polls.
JetBlackPanda
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I'm honestly fucking scared for my health care. If I lose my job I'm fucked, I have diabetes who will ever insure me? Once employers understand this they will make us bend to their will out of sheer fear of never being insured again.
balladofwindfishes
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When the system was set up, it was specifically set up to ensure rural areas were not ignored by major cities
That was a mistake. The EC and the PV not matching twice in the last 9 elections means it's a failed concept
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