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[Good Job Bob]

The single most important thing for 2020 is that the Dems don't nominate a candidate as unliked, uncharismatic, and oldhat as HRC.

There's no reason to abandon the Obama coalition, and I doubt they would be stupid enough to abandon the coalition after one narrowly lost election. They just have to take working class union whites in the rust belt, who are a part of that coalition, far more seriously then they did this time around.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

So, actually, this is a tweetstorm worth reading:

https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/796465102941782017

I could quote it all but I decided not to, not because I don't value your time, but because of economic issues that seemed more important to me. So click the link.

The tl;dr is that Comey destroyed Hillary's chances. He toppled Hillary's support, cut into her turnout among Democrats, and activated Republicans.

So that's bad.

The bright spot at least is that maybe an intersectional candidate can win again in America, if the FBI and Russia don't work together to destroy her.

And if an intersectional coalition still exists in America after Trump gets started implementing his agenda.

We'll see.

Obama shouldn't have left a bullet in the chamber, should have used the IRS as a weapon like 90% of Republicans already believe that he do.

He was too good of a person and too connected to liberalism.

 

[RastaMentality]

Cotton said basically stem the flow of green card issuance and visas. Basically get rid of immigration in any form or limit it severely.

where did he say this?

 

[StopMakingSense]

Basically. I have three friends that align with me. I work in Orange County and my friends from youth have all become deplorables. Ones even educated!

OC is changing though, just not where you are. It went Blue this time around!

 

[smokeandmirrors]

the only thing im looking forward to is a revival of punk counterculture (i hope). Brexit + Trump should hopefully gives us something.

Not that it's going to be worth it but at least it's something.

 

[thepotatoman]

This was not a landslide repudiation of the Democratic agenda. This was a race won -- and lost -- on the margins.

Chasing the WWC fantasy is far riskier than bolstering the current coalition -- and actually making sure it turns out in the next election. (also, we know this coalition is growing, and the trump coalition is shrinking)

But the bolded is exactly the problem changing the agenda needs to fix!

We've said the same thing every damn election about GotV efforts and being sure to tell everyone you know to vote for the lesser of two evils, but it clearly isn't working.

 

[pigeon]

Obama shouldn't have left a bullet in the chamber, should have used the IRS as a weapon like 90% of Republicans already believe that he do.

He was too good of a person and too connected to liberalism.

This is something I'm thinking idly about right now.

If we were going to get all the blame for being corrupt and cheating, maybe we should have actually cheated more.

 

[Poodlestrike]

So, actually, this is a tweetstorm worth reading:

https://twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/796465102941782017

I could quote it all but I decided not to, not because I don't value your time, but because of economic issues that seemed more important to me. So click the link.

The tl;dr is that Comey destroyed Hillary's chances. He toppled Hillary's support, cut into her turnout among Democrats, and activated Republicans.

So that's bad.

The bright spot at least is that maybe an intersectional candidate can win again in America, if the FBI and Russia don't work together to destroy her.

And if an intersectional coalition still exists in America after Trump gets started implementing his agenda.

We'll see.

If real evidence surfaces that Comey's actions really did tilt the election, could he actually end up being prosecuted under the Hastings act?

 

[Dan]

http://theundefeated.com/features/m...lary-clinton-but-shocked-by-donald-trump-win/

Malik Pelham, 20, a civil engineering student said he did not vote. “I did not want either one in office,” he said.

A civil engineering student didn't vote but was concerned when it started to look bad.

🤔

That wasn't an option you dumb fuck!

 

[Chichikov]

the only thing im looking forward to is a revival of punk counterculture (i hope). Brexit + Trump should hopefully gives us something.

Not that it's going to be worth it but at least it's something.

Vampire Weekend will release a xylophone heavy instrumental album called "Orange".

This generation was a mistake.

Spoiler

I'm just venting.

 

[Debirudog]

and Comey would get away with everything. So much for it being "rigged" for Clinton.

 

[Abinash117]

I think somebody posted it today, but it seems they'll make it tough for anyone to want to come here and build a life while also giving people a reason to go elsewhere with this sort of policy.

Doubt the establishment Republicans is going to destroy immigration, but either way there will be issues with getting stuff like that done. Even with historic win in 2014 they still couldn't work together. Trump is apolitical, I bet he'll be persuade by whom ever has the most power in the Congress.

 

[Trouble]

OC is changing though, just not where you are. It went Blue this time around!

Too bad it looks like they reelected Issa though.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Vampire Weekend will release a xylophone heavy instrumental album called "Orange".

This generation was a mistake.

Spoiler

I'm just venting.

agreed 100000% on your edit text

(which i appreciate when you do that, they're always a good laugh)

 

[B-Dubs]

If real evidence surfaces that Comey's actions really did tilt the election, could he actually end up being prosecuted under the Hastings act?

Not under a Trump presidency.

 

[Doc Holliday]

If real evidence surfaces that Comey's actions really did tilt the election, could he actually end up being prosecuted under the Hastings act?

Prosecuted by who? Gulliani? lol

 

[pigeon]

If real evidence surfaces that Comey's actions really did tilt the election, could he actually end up being prosecuted under the Hastings act?

It's clear that Comey's actions were extremely careless.

But for a prosecution under the Hatch Act, they must prove intent.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Obama shouldn't have left a bullet in the chamber, should have used the IRS as a weapon like 90% of Republicans already believe that he do.

He was too good of a person and too connected to liberalism.

Obama thought everyone was good. Instead of give and take it was just take and not give.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Too bad it looks like they reelected Issa though.

Issa isn't OC, really. More North San Diego County.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Vaughn Sterling ‏@vplus 5 minutes ago
JUST IN: Sen Tom Cotton to CNN: "Waterboarding isn't torture..Donald Trump is a pretty tough guy and he's ready to make those tough calls"

Our new America.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Our new America.

same as the old America

 

[Black Mamba]

There is a good chance that comey and by extension weiner cost the election.

 

[Barzul]

where did he say this?

CNN

 

[mo60]

Our new America.

The good thing is if trump acts to extreme while in office he won't last more than four years.

 

[smokeymicpot]

same as the old America

Just more open about it.

The good thing is if trump acts to extreme while in office he won't last more than four years.

Yes he will. The man hasn't changed and he isn't the system. People love that.

 

[Plinko]

God it is so depressing to even contemplate ignoring minorities in order to win an election.

Democrats need to stop equating "Reaching out to rural whites" with "Ignoring minorities." They are absolutely NOT one in the same.

 

[Oblivion]

lol, this guy says Republicans in the senate will keep Donald Trump in check:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...enate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

If real evidence surfaces that Comey's actions really did tilt the election, could he actually end up being prosecuted under the Hastings act?

Who would do it?? AG Giuliani? Even with a smoking gun there would be nothing done.

 

[Voysa Reezun]

How bad was Clinton's team that they couldn't even secure the turnout to win MI and WI? Robby Mook is extremely shitty at his job.

And now we have a bunch of lunatics running the country into the ground.

So many reasons to be frustrated, but booting a winnable election to a know-nothing fascist is really quite up there.

 

[chadskin]

Our new America.

Boy, ACLU lawyers will be busy af.

 

[Boke1879]

lol, this guy says Republicans in the senate will keep Donald Trump in check:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...enate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

He'll be their puppet

 

[metalslimer]

Well Trunp has promised to kill terrorists families and bring back torture so it's not surprising

Democrats need to stop equating "Reaching out to rural whites" with "Ignoring minorities." They are absolutely NOT one in the same.

You can't do both.

 

[Totakeke]

lol, this guy says Republicans in the senate will keep Donald Trump in check:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...enate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

Well, civil rights will go backwards that's for sure, but I want to believe that even *some* republicans will not be dumb enough make Russia their best new friends and go to war in the middle east.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Who would do it?? AG Giuliani? Even with a smoking gun there would be nothing done.

I was kind of hoping that they'd do it in the next 3 months lol.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Yeah, this is hot truth there.

Similar tweet-storm here, worth your time. Don't have time to put it all in here, just follow the trail.

https://twitter.com/polotek/status/796354824983842816

 

[pigeon]

Democrats need to stop equating "Reaching out to rural whites" with "Ignoring minorities." They are absolutely NOT one in the same.

That's what rural whites want. They said it in Hillbilly Elegy, they said it in a million hot takes this year, and they said it yesterday at the ballot box.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I assume that rural whites aren't stupid. I assume they know what they want and voted for it.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

The good thing is if trump acts to extreme while in office he won't last more than four years.

I would have believed you yesterday.

Except for the part about him having 4 years, as that would have implied he won, which was laughably absurd.

Yesterday.

 

[mo60]

lol, this guy says Republicans in the senate will keep Donald Trump in check:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...enate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

Even though everything went the republicans way last night the next few years will be interesting to watch. I wonder if the party will be damaged significantly by trump being president at this point.

 

[gutter_trash]

The good thing is if trump acts to extreme while in office he won't last more than four years.

with what opposition?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

I don't think a Republican can ever be appointed to a position of power again by a Democratic president.

The FBI was a disgrace.

 

[GSG Flash]

Tom Cotton must be one the biggest piece of shits in the Senate.

After Obama in 2008, I was really looking forward to never seeing these assholes in any sort of power. Feeling pretty depressed that they will now once again be able to fuck up the US and the world with their destructive neocon policies.

 

[XenodudeX]

Well Trunp has promised to kill terrorists families and bring back torture so it's not surprising



You can't do both.

???

Obama did exactly that.

 

[eBay Huckster]

???

Obama did exactly that.

and obama was able to do that because he himself was a minority

 

[Kid Heart]

People want rhetoric and they want hope. Believe it or not trump's MAGA is basically a right wing version of hope and change. A lot of the white rural voters that came out the woodwork this year voted for Obama in 08. It's deluded, and I think unethical to sell something that can't possibly be delivered, but it is what it is.

Like, no joke, one of the reasons I wanted McCain in 08 was because I thought Obama was overselling his campaign and promising more then he could give. Clearly now though I see that as much as people complain later about politicians not providing what they sold you, they still want to be told they'll get everything under the sun no matter how ludicrous it is, policy be damned. :/

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

lol, this guy says Republicans in the senate will keep Donald Trump in check:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...enate-won-t-lie-down-for-president-trump.html

GOP owes everything to Trump. All they will do is green light his core ideas and keep feeding bills for him to sign.

 

[mackaveli]

Basically this. I was unbelievably scared earlier, when it seemed like the secret Trump majority was real, but no, we just have business as usual: Dems refusing to come out on the balcony unless they hear someone singing JUST so. I don't want to reduce this down to Clinton being unsuitable, because that's wrong, but at the same time... until we can somehow correct core deficiencies in how Democrats view elections, we need to focus on finding the right PERSON. Not even the right politician, but the right candidate. Someone to jazz people up. It's going to be damn hard overcoming GOP voter suppression, but it's doable.

Yeah I agree. I love Clinton and think her experience and policy wonk is good. But for campaigning it sucks. We knew this and she knew she don't like campaigning she jus likes to work. But seems like Democrats need someone first to sell them on the idea and sing for them.

It's sad though that is the reality. That the most progressive idea's in DNC history isn't happening because Clinton isn't the best speaker / campaigner but probably would have got some ideas through with her experience and hard work.

 

[RustyNails]

An Obama -> Trump crossover voter

 

[Debirudog]

I don't think a Republican can ever be appointed to a position of power again by a Democratic president.

The FBI was a disgrace.

agreed.

Never feed a wolf that would backstab you the chance it gets.

 

[Officerrob]

We'll survive Trump but we need to come out stronger, better than we were before.

I think everyone needs to focus a bit less on rhetoric and a bit more on learning about the issues that both sides care about rather than just focusing on one side's complaints. This election has been too divided, in part (imo) because of the endless attacks from both parties and an unwillingness to listen to the issues of the other side.

Also (IMO) because of the insane length of the campaign in the age of 24/7 media, Facebook, Twitter, etc.

 

[mo60]

with what opposition?

I highly doubt all republicans in the house and senate will be kissing his feet.