harriet the spy
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Lol. Very! You gave me hope! I had an election party with my wife who's super pro Hillary and the whole evening she was wondering why I was chipper because I was normally doom and gloom.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT15| Orange is the New Black
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@realDonaldTrump - The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082
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ErasureAcer
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Barring a recount Hassan wins in NH. YAY!
Yep.
They're powerless. Might as well start this relationship off on the right foot... Unless we want another 4 years (or eternity) of inaction in the Senate.
A Human Becoming
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Ayotte conceded so I don't expect one.
Aaron Strife
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Ayotte already conceded.
We're at 51-48 R majority in the Senate. There's a Louisiana Senate runoff between an R and a D that will 99% certainly go to the R. I dunno, maybe they can pull a miracle out of "Trump is a jerk"
Hoping (and I really wish it didn't come to this) Collins, McCain and Graham (among others) stick to their general philosophy on the filibuster and don't let McConnell get rid of it. ACA will be compromised via reconciliation and we'll probably have to deal with the fucking Ryan budget but if Dems maintain a united front we should be able to preserve most of Obama's legacy.
It's hard for me to want to spend much time considering your argument when it's so obvious that you've barely bothered to read mine.
aspiegamer
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Man, I really need to call my psychiatrist in the morning and beg for a week of valium or something that'll let me actually rest for awhile.
One of the saddest parts of this all is that 90% of it is complaints and observations that we already knew of. The only actually different thing yesterday was Democrats not voting, where had even a few hundred thousand more bothered to we'd have had a different result. The rest of the analysis was on the table beforehand. This is why other than "racists+lazy dems" it seems there's not actually that much to cover! I was wrong yesterday to say we won't be able to understand this election. It's entirely possible if you remember the average American is a selfish jerk.
Just hunting down the latino vote wasn't enough. Actually, didn't that go pretty well? There's little reason why NV/FL/AZ should have ended up where they have without it. Apparently there wasn't much of a GOTV effort for them in non-critical states? Take CO vs NV as an example of a margin that's way too close when it shouldn't have been given their hispanic population. Cuban Americans broke more for Trump despite the fact that the busted him doing business behind the embargo. lol. It's not quite as stupid as evangelicals 80% to the candidate not of faith, but close.
One of the saddest parts of this all is that 90% of it is complaints and observations that we already knew of. The only actually different thing yesterday was Democrats not voting, where had even a few hundred thousand more bothered to we'd have had a different result. The rest of the analysis was on the table beforehand. This is why other than "racists+lazy dems" it seems there's not actually that much to cover! I was wrong yesterday to say we won't be able to understand this election. It's entirely possible if you remember the average American is a selfish jerk.
This is precisely why the Sanders statement is complete bullshit. It's like he didn't even look at the results before commenting. And of at least equal weight to angry white people voting Republican is Democrats just NOT VOTING, and that needs to be called out more by absolutely everyone (including Sanders). Turnout everywhere was down, but enough of the white vote got filled in by who couldn't bother to think for 2 seconds about other people.
Just hunting down the latino vote wasn't enough. Actually, didn't that go pretty well? There's little reason why NV/FL/AZ should have ended up where they have without it. Apparently there wasn't much of a GOTV effort for them in non-critical states? Take CO vs NV as an example of a margin that's way too close when it shouldn't have been given their hispanic population. Cuban Americans broke more for Trump despite the fact that the busted him doing business behind the embargo. lol. It's not quite as stupid as evangelicals 80% to the candidate not of faith, but close.
JHoNNy1OoO
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We see energy now and then the midterms come and nobody gives a fuck. That is literally all Democrats have to do is just fucking show up and vote. We didn't need to "fix" anything this election to win it. We just didn't show up. Trump supporters outnumbered us and barely at that. This was just idiots buying into the "both sides" bullshit and of course the Comey letter the final weeks that fired up the Trump camp and gave him an easy message to finish off with.
Which as reported today at the beginning of October the RNC polling had 2 toss up states within 3 points in NV and GA. November 4th it was 13 states!
We fucked up no doubt but the main reason we lost is a good chunk of Democrats decided to sit this one out in states that mattered.
If we're smart: we'll use the Trump presidency to put the fear of God into the left.
Energize the Dems/Independents that didn't vote
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Shinra, can you check the PM I sent?
djplaeskool
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Oh shit. Hassan won?
Barely slept, barely ate anything today, called sick to work, but finally got myself up and went to the gym to run
I am feeling FURIOUS right now. Having some vicious and hateful thoughts towards those who oppress and who have enabled oppression, but I know these aren't productive without doing something to help marginalized people.
Thinking about the GOP platform from this year makes me seethe. Old fucking men who need to die off are set to revoke so many of the rights and progress that we've made under Obama.
Just so mad right now.
I am feeling FURIOUS right now. Having some vicious and hateful thoughts towards those who oppress and who have enabled oppression, but I know these aren't productive without doing something to help marginalized people.
Thinking about the GOP platform from this year makes me seethe. Old fucking men who need to die off are set to revoke so many of the rights and progress that we've made under Obama.
Just so mad right now.
NYCmetsfan
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I don't think this is a given any more. We're seeing the collapse of global order. With climate change this is going to get worse.
BoboBrazil
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Key to democratic win in 2020. Promise dumb unobtainable shit to win uneducated whites in rust belt. Trump will probably be riding high with his tax cuts that won't wreck the economy until his 2nd term though.
SenorArdilla
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Trump is not building a wall and Hillary is not going to jail. People need to get over that.
Organize to protest/fight some of the shit that is going to come out of the white house and/or congress. I think DACA and the ACA are the most likely candidates.
Get people mobilized, do what you can and hopefully you can build momentum that leads to the midterms.
Then we'll see.
Intheflorsh
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Sounds like you might have some bad feelings towards Bernie then.
Hillary supporters (including myself) are going to suffer through more than a few "I told you so"-s, it's just inevitable. Whether or not Bernie would have actually been more successful, the single most repeated argument for her during the primaries was her "electability" and the perception that she was a safe pick. That failed massively.
That's definitely step one and I think dems are going to be stewing on this for a while. Once he gets into office dems need to go on the attack about all the polices he and the GOP will enact.
Then dems need to rebuild the coalition the minute he steps into office. A lot can happen and change in 4 years.
neurosisxeno
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I just... I can't even reason with these fucking people...
Sometimes you just have to let people dig their own holes. This is the same rhetoric from the "let's find any irrational way to turn Bernie into a horrible guy" crowd that was going to backfire long-term (and apparently short-term, also). Now some folks wanna double-down on it instead of learning from it. That's a recipe for disaster and no different from the right wing echo chambers that ignore everything that doesn't fit into their narrative. Let's hope it's just venting and it blows over after a few days/weeks.
Nobody ever thought the former would actually happen
The latter is something that would be unprecedented, but not impossible especially with insane AG Rudy Guiliani. If you don't understand this, that's fine, but kindly don't speak of what you don't understand.
benjipwns
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but he promised
Channel that anger into action. Talk to your friends about this and family. Talk to strangers if possible. Get involved locally and recruit others. Pay attention to state elections and vote.
Voysa Reezun
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So, this is terrifying, and actually one thing that scares me is the mass wave of immigration that's coming when the land people live on begins to flood.
Jesus, dude. I mean, you're probably right to some degree.
elvisaintdead
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Oh shit, I just realized that his tax returns should come out if he's not totally bullshitting about the audit. Like, how does he go 4 years saying "I'm under audit, can't do it"?
metalslimer
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Speaking of race politics heading towards death, criminal justice reform is dead.
And by dead I mean republicans will pass reform that puts more cops on the street and opens up prisons.
Oh and remember how the Obama administration wanted to cut ties to private prisons? Get ready for more funding to be sent to them.
And by dead I mean republicans will pass reform that puts more cops on the street and opens up prisons.
Oh and remember how the Obama administration wanted to cut ties to private prisons? Get ready for more funding to be sent to them.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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One thing that is just so impressive that is the rural whites still voted for Trump even though he showed no empathy whatsoever towards the fact that their children were addicted to heroin.
I mean, they sold out their children's humanity (and maybe their own! Lots of rural white adults are addicted to heroin) just to vote for the moron. Just so impressive.
I mean, they sold out their children's humanity (and maybe their own! Lots of rural white adults are addicted to heroin) just to vote for the moron. Just so impressive.
This country was never meant for people like us. This election is what makes me realize that fully in 2016.
Aaron Strife
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Maybe the media will actually treat it like a real fucking issue.
But maybe Cory Booker will have some emails or something.
BoboBrazil
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He will come up with another excuse. He will control the government after all. He can make the IRS do whatever he wants. Maybe more scandals will come out now, but I doubt it. I guess that apprentice n word tape will never see the light of day.
VendettaRed07
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Brawly Likes to Brawl
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It's going to be that way for at least 4 years. Like holy shit, we're going to have to make a new section just for "our President said/did something terrible again" threads.
benjipwns
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Speaking of death. Don't worry, there's California, bastion of humanity!
Black Mamba
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Man. I slept maybe 2 hours last night, called in sick, and I just realized I haven't eaten or drank anything since before most of the election results last night.
I don't remember ever willingly doing this. I feel like shit. I have a headache.
I'm going to get some In N Out...I almost never eat fast food but fuck it. fuck it all, I'm eating a fast food burger and fries because just fuck it.
I don't remember ever willingly doing this. I feel like shit. I have a headache.
I'm going to get some In N Out...I almost never eat fast food but fuck it. fuck it all, I'm eating a fast food burger and fries because just fuck it.
JHoNNy1OoO
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The only tax returns we will see maybe are the ones while he is in office. From this point forward you'll hear the drumbeat of "my previous tax returns don't matter anymore." Count on it.
Dubbedinenglish
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Police are going to be a protected minority. Wouldn't be surprised to see a police immunity bill or at the very least AG will refuse to prosecute any police.
We will NEVER see those returns. NEVER.
I think the coalition stays the same we just need to not run a white woman with 25 years of propaganda thrown at her.
Pretty much where I am.
I'm so fucking done with all the "well I'm a straight white man, and personally my feelings were pretty hurt with all this name-calling from liberals" bullshit.
If you ever expect me to coddle you while my people are being slaughtered like animals without justice, you can go fuck yourself. I'm not in the mood for this shit.
If you ever expect me to coddle you while my people are being slaughtered like animals without justice, you can go fuck yourself. I'm not in the mood for this shit.
Doc Holliday
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Even though we spawned Trump, new york is still awesome.
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