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[B-Dubs]

In fighting is not going to help anybody. Dems will look like the UK Labour Party if they don't get their shit together

Give them a little bit to vent. We've still got Obama to drag everyone together behind the scenes after he leaves office.

 

[Officerrob]

He looked like he was angry with Obama. It's disgusting. He can't just shake his hand and smile somewhat for that photo in the Oval Office.

Trump was fine. A 10-15 minute conversation went 90 minutes, those two obviously were interested in speaking. No need to make things up. Trump has the same look in all these photo ops today

 

[Syder]

Obama: is this real life
Trump: is this real life

Been saying it since he won, he looks sorry it happened.
''It was just a prank, bro''

 

[thehypocrite]

And? Obama still won 2008 and the Democratic establishment was behind HIlary, morose than in 2015-16.

Stop blaming the DNC when Bernie lost fair and square.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Obama had as much backing of the establishment back then as Clinton, Heck a lot of the party had pushed bill aside until Obama went and brought him back into the fold for his coalition.

Bernie was never given a chance. There was no reasoning with the Party, it was her turn and they were with her.

 

[Future Foundation]

In fighting is not going to help anybody. Dems will look like the UK Labour Party if they don't get their shit together

Why do that when you can jerk yourself off about how right you were?

 

[Angry Fork]

His "It's about economics, not race" (straight out of the white socialist jacobinmag manifesto) means that he has no actual concept of what drives it and how to deal with it.

Racism doesn't come out of thin air. It comes from economic inequality.

America has been an intrinsically white supremacist and pro-bourgeois country from its inception, and its institutions have that bias, but there have been times where black + white working class were in solidarity over common cause. Unions drove this the most, something dems stopped caring about decades ago when they sold everything to private organizations.

 

[Quixzlizx]

And? Obama still won 2008 and the Democratic establishment was behind HIlary, morose than in 2015-16.

Stop blaming the DNC when Bernie lost fair and square.

It wasn't entirely fair and square, but I also don't think Bernie lost due to the DNC's ham-fisted machinations. That's just an excuse (and another excuse to hate Hillary/not show up to vote).

 

[neurosisxeno]

I'm starting to see people say they don't even think Trump will run again in 2020. That would be...wow...

 

[Diablos]

Trump was fine. A 10-15 minute conversation went 90 minutes, those two obviously were interested in speaking. No need to make things up. Trump has the same look in all these photo ops today

They did shake hands too. Nevermind!

 

[Doc Holliday]

So we're already back to pretending that the primary process always selects the best candidate for the GE?

No, not at all...but it does pick the more popular one and Bernie lost that one the same every other GOP candidate lost.

 

[Barzul]

I'm starting to see people say they don't even think Trump will run again in 2020. That would be...wow...

I'm telling you this might just be the case. Depending on how badly his presidency goes. I don't for one second believe he actually wanted the job of president. The title sure, but not the job.

 

[Hindl]

Trump looked shook in that press scene with Ryan. Like he looks legit uncomfortable. I think it's setting in. He got what he wanted and now he's found out just how immense the scope of the job is.

Yeah, I think it's really sinking in. His demeanor has been noticably different since winning.

He looked like he was angry with Obama. It's disgusting. He can't just shake his hand and smile somewhat for that photo in the Oval Office.

I don't think he's angry, I think the reality of the situation is hitting him and he's afraid and frustrated.

This is something we're going to have to deal with, in Florida especially:

This is the big thing. Minorities didn't turn out as much AND rust belt voters flipped. Dems need to be inspired to vote. We all hate this, we think that the opponent running on a platform of white nationalism is enough. But it's not. We need to permanently purge the idea from our heads that you can win as a Democrat simply by painting your opponent negatively. I loved Hillary as a candidate and was personally inspired by her. But I get why people weren't. It's sad. It's disgusting that people would be at least implicit with a Trump vote just because they weren't in love with their candidate. But that's what it's going to take to make Dems get out. If we're in this same situation in 2020 without a charismatic candidate, and we wonder why we lost again, it's because we ignored the answer.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Trump looked shook in that press scene with Ryan. Like he looks legit uncomfortable. I think it's setting in. He got what he wanted and now he's found out just how immense the scope of the job is.

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into. The presidency isn't for the light hearted or weak willed. It's the hardest job in the country.

 

[daedalius]

He looked like he was angry with Obama. It's disgusting. He can't just shake his hand and smile somewhat for that photo in the Oval Office.

If you watch the two of them together in the Oval Office, it doesn't seem like that at all.

Like I said earlier, trump seems like a totally different person when he was with Obama

 

[excelsiorlef]

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into

America will be the first bankruptcy he'll actually be held accountable for.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Yeah, I think it's really sinking in. His demeanor has been noticably different since winning.



I don't think he's angry, I think the reality of the situation is hitting him and he's afraid and frustrated.



This is the big thing. Minorities didn't turn out as much AND rust belt voters flipped. Dems need to be inspired to vote. We all hate this, we think that the opponent running on a platform of white nationalism is enough. But it's not. We need to permanently purge the idea from our heads that you can win as a Democrat simply by painting your opponent negatively. I loved Hillary as a candidate and was personally inspired by her. But I get why people weren't. It's sad. It's disgusting that people would be at least implicit with a Trump vote just because they weren't in love with their candidate. But that's what it's going to take to make Dems get out. If we're in this same situation in 2020 without a charismatic candidate, and we wonder why we lost again, it's because we ignored the answer.

The Presidency is an awe inspiring thing that very few of us can comprehend. Hopefully it manages to shake Trump to the core in a good way.

 

[Officerrob]

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Obama had as much backing of the establishment back then as Clinton, Heck a lot of the party had pushed bill aside until Obama went and brought back into the fold for his coalition.

Bernie was never given a chance. There was no reasoning with the Party, it was her turn and they were with her.

Hillary had a big superdelate lead over Obama, they switched one by one as Obama 's momentum picked up. Stop having revisionist history

"Hillary Clinton is starting to lose her overwhelming lead in superdelegates, the Democratic party officials whose votes she is counting on to help her close the gap with Barack Obama. He has received a steady flow of backers in recent days while building a streak of 11 straight primary victories. After once leading Obama by a 2 to 1 ratio in the superdelegate chase, Clinton now has 241 to his 181, according to the latest Associated Press tally."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/23/uselections2008.barackobama

 

[Cybit]

That's what happens when people lose elections. It's post-mortem time, Sanders has his solution and others will have their own.

To be fair, for a lot of folks, this is the first presidential election they voted in that they lost. Add in the social media component and this one will be messy.

WAIT FOR GOD NATE GUYS

Oof. Assuming Nate's right...that's a tough pill to swallow.

 

[Diablos]

With the SCOTUS gone, Dems need to educate those voters on making sure they get their registration and ID right in these states. VRA is crippled. Educating voters is a top priority.

 

[pigeon]

Racism doesn't come out of thin air. It comes from economic inequality.

This comment is literally contradicted by the rest of your post.

America has been an intrinsically white supremacist and pro-bourgeois country from its inception, and its institutions have that bias, but there have been times where black + white working class were in solidarity over common cause. Unions drove this the most, something dems stopped caring about decades ago when they sold everything to private organizations.

This is not different from what I'm saying, except that your sympathies lie with the white people who decided that racial justice did not matter to them, and not the people of color who were sold out by white voters who were never real allies.

 

[Kid Heart]

In fighting is not going to help anybody. Dems will look like the UK Labour Party if they don't get their shit together

It's going to be very rough around here for at least the next couple of weeks.Hopefully not longer then that because two years from now the Democrats need to start striking back.

 

[Y2Kev]

ITS NOT ABOUT ELITES

Trump is an "ELITE". It didn't matter.

Sanders is a 30+ year Washington Insider. It didn't matter.

As long as the person is "new to you", that's all that matters to people.

I agree the elite vs. non-elite framing is a little off, but I think you're looking at this too one dimensionally. I think the argument should be insider vs. outsider. Trump is a credible outsider because the elite actually publicly reject him. Hillary is an insider. Bernie is not a credible outsider to me but he managed to sell himself as one, no doubt in no small part because he was running against the definition of an insider.

Bernie has some characteristics that fit the mold...namely that he was not really ever in charge of party machinery, nor was he clearly in the party...but it's hard for me to understand a career politician as a political outsider. But perception is reality.

Regarding relitigating the primary, what 2016 demonstrated was that you can't win the democratic nomination without minority support. It happened in 2008 and it happened in 2016. I don't care if Dumbie Washedupman Shitz was jumping up and down on the scale (forget putting her finger on it), there was no overcoming the early March sweep through the south...and there never WILL be. Now if you want to talk about putting swing state contests up earlier in the primary, there's something I'd be interested in.

 

[BiggNife]

I'm starting to see people say they don't even think Trump will run again in 2020. That would be...wow...

I strongly doubt that'll happen. And if it did then Pence would probably take his place, which isn't much better.

 

[Barzul]

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into. The presidency isn't for the light hearted or weak willed. It's the hardest job in the country.

Yup and I really hope for his sake Obama told him this. Because he has they keys now, he must cope with the weight.

 

[Abinash117]

This is something we're going to have to deal with, in Florida especially:

It can be also looked that a lot of the WWC that voted Obama voted for Trump.

 

[Zukkoyaki]

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into. The presidency isn't for the light hearted or weak willed. It's the hardest job in the country.

I see him not running for re-election in 2020 and just letting Pence run. Also... Unlikely as it is I think there's a non-zero chance he steps down at some point.

 

[plagiarize]

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Obama had as much backing of the establishment back then as Clinton, Heck a lot of the party had pushed bill aside until Obama went and brought him back into the fold for his coalition.

Bernie was never given a chance. There was no reasoning with the Party, it was her turn and they were with her.

What changes do you propose to the primary process?

I'm comfortable with doing away with super delegates, and making every competition an open *primary*. DWS is gone. There is no one else I'm aware of that the DNC want to coronate.

Would these changes suffice?

 

[tuffy]

I'm telling you this might just be the case. Depending on how badly his presidency goes. I don't for one second believe he actually wanted the job of president. The title sure, but not the job.

Though you may be right, for now I think we have to work under the assumption that's he's going to run again as the incumbent.

 

[jtb]

The college educated vote killed HRC. They were supposed to counterbalance the bleeding of the WWC and, in the end, they didn't have anything at stake so they didn't care and came home to the GOP in the end. Apocalyptic messaging was a failure because they knew they were insulated. Comey fucked us. (Hindsight is 20/20 and all.)

Suburban counties barely flipped at all.

Those voters have only ever showed up when we ran the most charismatic motherfucker in the room. Look at the last 30 years, they don't care about policy. They don't. I know that don't fit in your world view, but it's true.

Fuck, Trump is the goddamned definition of metropolitan elite! That's who he has been for his entire life!



Yup. All that matters is the shiny.

Come on, the premise of this isn't even true. Between 1992 and 2016, Democrats have only lost the popular vote once. That's actually pretty staggering to consider. There are large problems with the Democratic party -- structural problems, messaging problem, candidate problems, etc. A big shiny toy? Come on.

There are slivers of this argument that are true -- 30 years of public exposure and transparency vs. absolutely no transparency -- but not in the ways you're claiming they've manifested themselves.

 

[MoxManiac]

I'm starting to see people say they don't even think Trump will run again in 2020. That would be...wow...

Can the incumbant just decide not to run? Is there precedence for this?

(I'm not convinced it will happen with Trump)

 

[Doc Holliday]

To be fair, for a lot of folks, this is the first presidential election they voted in that they lost. Add in the social media component and this one will be messy.



Oof. Assuming Nate's right...that's a tough pill to swallow.

So true, I don't remember 2000-2004 being like this.

I loved Howard Dean, he got a fucking raw deal, but I moved on. sanders fans are coming of out of the wood work when it's real easy to so because Hillary lost. Yes she was not a great candidate, but Bernie lost to her. Next time, go vote in the primaries instead of just coming up with stupid memes and writing facebook posts about birds on a podium.

 

[A Human Becoming]

WAIT FOR GOD NATE GUYS

Is the NYT going to look at the exit polls again and try to make them more accurate like in 2012? I really doubt more people between the ages of 18-29 voted than 65+.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I see him not running for re-election in 2020 and just letting Pence run. Also... Unlikely as it is I think there's a non-zero chance he steps down at some point.

His age gives him a nice out in 2020 if he wants to step down.

Can the incumbant just decide not to run? Is there precedence for this?

(I'm not convinced it will happen with Trump)

It's happened several times. Some even campaigned on only being one term presidents (which is a really dumb thing to campaign on)

 

[kirblar]

Racism doesn't come out of thin air. It comes from economic inequality.

America has been an intrinsically white supremacist and pro-bourgeois country from its inception, and its institutions have that bias, but there have been times where black + white working class were in solidarity over common cause. Unions drove this the most, something dems stopped caring about decades ago when they sold everything to private organizations.

Wrong. Completely, totally wrong. Racism is not the product of economics, it is the product of fear.

This is why minorities will not vote for candidates spouting this crap. They know better.

 

[daedalius]

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into. The presidency isn't for the light hearted or weak willed. It's the hardest job in the country.

I feel like this is really accurate

 

[Zukkoyaki]

Can the incumbant just decide not to run? Is there precedence for this?

(I'm not convinced it will happen with Trump)

James Polk I believe did this. Also there's nothing about Trump that's precedent haha

 

[thehypocrite]

Hillary had a big superdelate lead over Obama, they switched one by one as Obama 's momentum picked up. Stop having revisionist history

"Hillary Clinton is starting to lose her overwhelming lead in superdelegates, the Democratic party officials whose votes she is counting on to help her close the gap with Barack Obama. He has received a steady flow of backers in recent days while building a streak of 11 straight primary victories. After once leading Obama by a 2 to 1 ratio in the superdelegate chase, Clinton now has 241 to his 181, according to the latest Associated Press tally."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/23/uselections2008.barackobama

You are comparing 2 to 1 to Sanders situation? I disagree with your thesis. Sanders wasn't Obama and comparing them makes no sense cause Obama wasn't an option. You are making a false equivalence here.

 

[tuffy]

Can the incumbant just decide not to run? Is there precedence for this?

(I'm not convinced it will happen with Trump)

Sure they can. Truman didn't, for instance.

 

[kirblar]

I agree the elite vs. non-elite framing is a little off, but I think you're looking at this too one dimensionally. I think the argument should be insider vs. outsider. Trump is a credible outsider because the elite actually publicly reject him. Hillary is an insider. Bernie is not a credible outsider to me but he managed to sell himself as one, no doubt in no small part because he was running against the definition of an insider.

Bernie has some characteristics that fit the mold...namely that he was not really ever in charge of party machinery, nor was he clearly in the party...but it's hard for me to understand a career politician as a political outsider. But perception is reality.

Regarding relitigating the primary, what 2016 demonstrated was that you can't win the democratic nomination without minority support. It happened in 2008 and it happened in 2016. I don't care if Dumbie Washedupman Shitz was jumping up and down on the scale (forget putting her finger on it), there was no overcoming the early March sweep through the south...and there never WILL be. Now if you want to talk about putting swing state contests up earlier in the primary, there's something I'd be interested in.

The trick is that anyone can be an outsider. They just need to not be in the public consciousness.

 

[pigeon]

So true, I don't remember 2000-2004 being like this.

I loved Howard Dean, he got a fucking raw deal, but I moved on. sanders fans are coming of out of the wood work when it's real easy to so because Hillary lost. Yes she was not a great candidate, but Bernie lost to her. Next time, go vote in the primaries instead of just coming up with stupid memes and writing facebook posts about birds on a podium.

I remember Kerry getting slagged off quite a bit for being a bad candidate. I think it happened in this thread this week!

But I suspect it had about as much validity as the comments here. People who didn't commit to the movement under Clinton would now like forgiveness and empowerment for their principled choice to let her lose.

 

[IggyChooChoo]

Great, so we are just going to run McGovern against Goldwater and see who wins?

Trump isn't Goldwater. He's George Wallace.

 

[Quixzlizx]

James Polk I believe did this. Also there's nothing about Trump that's precedent haha

All 2-term Presidents before FDR also declined to run, beginning with George Washington. There was no constitutional amendment forbidding it at the time.

 

[Kusagari]

I realize now that making the entire campaign about how dangerous Trump was, what a piece of shit he was, what a sexist he is, what a racist he is was a horrible campaign strategy. It only fed into the narrative Trump was painting and only further made people distrust Hillary instead.

Hillary should have made this about policy, spending more time attacking how Trump's plans weren't explained, made no sense, what she would do in comparison, etc.

Instead they made it a referendum on Trump as a person and it only turned people off of Hillary herself.

 

[kirblar]

I realize now that making the entire campaign about how dangerous Trump was, what a piece of shit he was, what a sexist he is, what a racist he is was a horrible campaign strategy. It only fed into the narrative Trump was painting and only further made people distrust Hillary instead.

Hillary should have made this about policy, spending more time attacking how Trump's plans weren't explained, made no sense, what she would do in comparison, etc.

Instead they made it a referendum on Trump as a person and it only turned people off of Hillary herself.

People already distrusted her.

That was the issue. She could not u ring that bell.

 

[Hindl]

To be fair, for a lot of folks, this is the first presidential election they voted in that they lost. Add in the social media component and this one will be messy.



Oof. Assuming Nate's right...that's a tough pill to swallow.

Why? Trump's votes were mostly stable, Clinton lost 6M Obama votes. And from the looks of things, minorities didn't turn out for her as much, which is understandable, and white rural voters in the rust belt hated her. While I agree that those rust belt voters are implicit with white nationalism and deserve some of the blame, I think many of them would've been fine with a Dem candidate that wasn't Hillary. She had too many scandals, the stench of the establishment, and never did rallies in WI for instance to show those rural voters that she cared about them. Both of those issues are fixable. This isn't some dramatic shift to the right that we're seeing, this is just the left not being inspired to come out to vote. A better candidate fixes that. The question is, do the Dems have that better candidate?

 

[Kai Dracon]

You know, I have to admit, now that it's all laid out this way... don't forget Obama before and after the Presidency.

Now look at Trump. How can he even survive?

 

[kadotsu]

If they really want to go 100% populist outsider Michael Moore is the way to go. He can play the no fact game as well as anyone and he has a white penis.

 

[Quixzlizx]

People already distrusted her.

I guess the point would be not to turn things into a likability contest if nobody likes you either.

 

[RustyNails]

I don't think he has the mental capacity to process all the information a president has to process.

It's likely frying his brain, he doesn't know how to handle it. This is the hardest job of his life. He can't just go bankrupt, wash his hands, and forget about it. There's no giving up. He'll be held accountable by the entire country. He'll have to make decisions he doesn't like, meet people he doesn't like, and do things he doesn't want to do. He needs to remember foreign names that are hard to remember. He has to sit down and figure out plans. He needs to balance being in meetings 24/7, with being in the public 24/7. He needs to cope with being watched 100% of the time. Every word he says being recorded. He needs to cope with handing his business over and being unable to even think about them for four years. He needs to realize that many of his private documents are now public record. He now can no longer freely post on Twitter, everything must be approved and recorded. He can only take vacations every so often, but he's always on call. People will criticize his vacations. Everyone will know where and when he will be at all hours of every day for 4 years. There will be times when he goes days without sleeping, but is still expected to be sharp and focused 100% of the time. He'll eat food he won't like in countries he doesn't like. Every aspect of his finances will be audited by several different departments. And this is just the surface. Just wait for the first hurricane. The first terrorist attack. He can't sit at the side lines and whine about Obama doing a bad job. It will be HIS job now. And all eyes will be on him. Lives will be his personal responsibility.

He has NO idea what he's gotten himself into. The presidency isn't for the light hearted or weak willed. It's the hardest job in the country.

My only issue with this scenario is that he will delegate almost everything to Pence and will exclusively rely on Ryan on how to govern. But then he will take credit for it all, like he does with charities.

 

[Y2Kev]

Making it about policy probably also wouldn't have worked. You just have to have someone likable to sell a simple message. Obama's hope and change in 2008 was the MAGA of his time. That's really all it is.