I think they are full of shit as far as Iran goes. We tear up the agreement and then what? Go to war? Within the 1st year? The citizenry will fucking love that.
The only campaign bullet point I know they are for sure going to follow thru on is repealing Obamacare. They have cornered themselves in on that one and their supporters will not let them get away with it.
I really do hope Trump will be a good president. Blank slate and all that.
(hoping the climate transition team rumor is not a sign)
I think they thought this was Kabuki theater or something and not a presidential election.
Literally all Trump has to do is meet with Iranian leaders, detail a tweaked, but essentially the same, agreement and brag about how he renegotiated everything for a better deal.
I'm starting to see people say they don't even think Trump will run again in 2020. That would be...wow...
I mean, I hope he doesn't burn this country to the ground, but I'm not giving him a blank slate.
Dude's still a racist, sexist slimeball and always will be.
I don't want to harp on Sanders supporters anymore but I think it's quite ridiculous that over the past two days, they've been saying that Hillary's fault was not appealing to WWC, and that we should've given Bernie a chance, but none of them are acknowledging Sanders failure to attract the minority vote during primaries. His lacking efforts toward southern states and the amount of shit BLM got from his supporters for asking him to say anything about their movement were strong points of contention that were known.
Come on man. That's too fucking far.
I hate the Deplorables as much as anyone. But she lost 7 million voters who voted for a black man. They arent unreachable. We can either chalk that up to the country being so fucking racist that we just pack it up and go home and wrote the country off as lost.
Or we can figure out WHY 7 million votes were lost.
? In terms of what? Them and Japan having nukes being a good idea? That's the only thing I can think of off-hand.Looks like Trump flip-floped on South Korea
Oh geez, they haven't called NC gov yet?
Hillary look at the post that compares Hillary's position with the republicans and Sanders and tell me again how on those she stands for progressives. She isn't authentic look at the emails that show the sausage making process of how she assumes public positions.
Yeah a lot of voters from states that have no influence on the actual battle for the election result. I know this sounds awful but that's the political system in the US. If you want it to change you need to win elections using the current system in place.
Trump's had at least two different stances on a wide variety of issues, so I don't doubt there'll be plenty of times where his actions don't match his rhetoric.I don't buy this trending belief that Trump isn't going to pursue his campaign rhetoric, not when the potential Cabinet appointments are nightmares.
There cannot be enough hatred for the cable news media.
? In terms of what? Them and Japan having nukes being a good idea? That's the only thing I can think of off-hand.
totally agree.
The problem was the Clinton campaign thought they had to choose one message against Trump. well... 1. if that premise is true, they chose the wrong message. they thought painting him as the deplorable, unnacceptable candidate would win college educated votes. the college educated laughed in our faces.
2. why choose just one? he gave democrats every avenue to attack him. and, on the flip side, he used every avenue to attack Hillary... attacked her from the left, the right, attacked her strengths, attacked her weaknesses. if you're going to use a micro-targeted data-driven campaign, then use micro-targeted, data-driven messaging and attacks.
I think it's unfair to pin all of this on Mook (though the resource allocation based on data was clearly lacking), but he was clearly a data guy over a messaging guy... if he was Plouffe, where was the Axelrod of this campaign? Messaging failure.
I think they are full of shit as far as Iran goes. We tear up the agreement and then what? Go to war? Within the 1st year? The citizenry will fucking love that.
The only campaign bullet point I know they are for sure going to follow thru on is repealing Obamacare. They have cornered themselves in on that one and their supporters will not let them get away with it.
One thing I think we can all agree on: The media as a whole failed the American public.
I think it's dead and we have to pray for a backlash election in two years.I'm interested in how that will go, will they keep the filibuster in hopes that the Dems will obstruct and they can, hypocritically but it will work because the GOP can get away with anything, point to them as holding up the will of the country...
Or do they nuke the filibuster and kill it and you know be held responsible for what comes next (if people actually do which again GOP can pretty much do what they want and get away with it).
Furthermore what do the Dems do... do they filibuster it knowing they'll get shit on for it, or do they step back say go for it and hope the GOP hangs themselves on this. Option B might be politically shrewd but hurts a lot of people but option A might just be delaying the inevitable anyway.
? In terms of what? Them and Japan having nukes being a good idea? That's the only thing I can think of off-hand.
That I definitely agree on. It's weird how negative her ads are, especially since the research we have on the subject shows that negative ads have limited, temporary effectiveness at best and yet she tied a tremendous portion of her advertisements to Trump instead of herself. Granted, Trump is a particularly terrible candidate, yes, but that doesn't give them a reason to actually vote for her and doesn't solve the problem of their effectiveness being temporary at best. Don't really understand the thinking there. I mean, I do, but it seems easily demonstrated to be a bad idea and they went with it anyway.Clinton spent too much on Negative ads agaisnt Trump then Positive ads about herself.
She should have made policy Ads of different subjects
a) an entire ad about Health Care, Child Care
b) an entire ad about paid family leave, equal pay, higher minimum wage
stuff like that
The World Series ads were just negative ads against Trump; she need to sell herself more than tear him down
One thing I think we can all agree on: The media as a whole failed the American public.
Looks like Trump flip-floped on South Korea
I really do hope Trump will be a good president. Blank slate and all that.
(hoping the climate transition team rumor is not a sign)
Trump's had at least two different stances on a wide variety of issues, so I don't doubt there'll be plenty of times where his actions don't match his rhetoric.
Zero chance.
He would get crucified by his own party. The Iran deal is dead.
That I definitely agree on. It's weird how negative her ads are, especially since the research we have on the subject shows that negative ads have limited, temporary effectiveness at best and yet she tied a tremendous portion of her advertisements to Trump instead of herself. Granted, Trump is a particularly terrible candidate, yes, but that doesn't give them a reason to actually vote for her and doesn't solve the problem of their effectiveness being temporary at best. Don't really understand the thinking there. I mean, I do, but it seems easily demonstrated to be a bad idea and they went with it anyway.
Of course, not sure how much difference that type of thing really makes anymore, but with what happened, it definitely didn't help at the very least.
How many anti-Trump news opinion columns, editorials, and endorsements were written in 2016?One thing I think we can all agree on: The media as a whole failed the American public.
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We've been told white Appalachians just want socialism and class-centricity, but the "Democrat" who became governor in WV which Clinton lost
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is a billionaire who flouted property taxes/shafted workers in Appalachian states and won on a platform to the right of national Democrats.
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Are leftism's utopian proposals to dodge anti-racism and appeal to whites falsifiable? At what point do these become open deflections...
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that rest on a framing of white concerns that are disconnected from how white people see their interests and how they want them presented?
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If socialism is what white people secretly clamor for how did Jim Justice win by almost ten points in a state Clinton got 26% support in?
even if Hillary had won, that would have been the case. it has never been so obvious that a strong, free press is vital to the survival of our democracy. our core journalistic institutions have never been weaker and that clearly enabled Trump's rise. Zuckerberg needs to take a good, hard look in the mirror and fix his fucking platform before he opens his mouth about how he's making the world a "better" and "more open" place.
I really don't know how you fix it. It's not going to get better, not on its current trajectory. Maybe a Trump presidency will rally the press and save newspapers. I don't know.
http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/bernie-sanders-black-lives-matter-dem-debate/ ??? BLM support was built in almost from the beginning.
The underlying argument was they would have fallen in line because what choice do they have....
But we don't have to....
It's discomforting and it worries me about the direction of the American progressive movement
It's kind of cool the GOP appears to have a hard cap in turnout though. Turnout hasn't really gone up or down much since Bush. It's just been the Democrats dropping the ball every single loss because our turnout is all over the place.
This hit hard:
I think it's dead and we have to pray for a backlash election in two years.
A lot of these GOP governors need to be careful with the congressional GOP. If the economy starts dipping, these governors are not going to be in a good position. They managed to ride Obama's economic improvements as their own (while criticism him) but if the economy of the entire country starts slipping, they'll be blamed.
The GOP is in a really awkward spot. They have a crazy, unpredictable, uncontrollable person as the president. A tea party sipping true believer speaker and a right leaning old school moderate who talks a hard conservative game as Senate Majority leader. It's like three different, completely unorganized facets of the party and they all want full control.
They're threatening to destroy Obamacare without replacing the parts of the bill that are very popular. They're threatening to get rid of gay marriage, which has bi-partisan support and is probably the fastest way on the planet to get Democrats enthused to beat them. They don't believe in global warming, despite the majority of the country across both parties believing it's a problem. They didn't win the popular vote. They loss house seats. They didn't win because people voted for them, but because nobody voted. They have no mandate to speak of. Many of their governors only have their offices due to Obama's strong economy.
This entire thing is basically set up near perfectly for them to bring in a 2008 style wave for the Democrats. And they know it. They're not stupid. It's a balancing act, and if it teeters off course, it'll be a disaster for the GOP. And losing 2020 in a landslide would crush the GOP for a decade. In sort of a reverse 2010. They got a brief blast of fresh air, but they're still a dying party, only propped up by voter suppression, liberal apathy, and gerrymandering. They know this, and they work towards all three of those things because they can't win without them anymore because America continues to reject their policies, despite them winning elections.
Going to be a weird couple of years for the GOP. It's almost bittersweet for them, absolute power, but with 2020's census year election looming in the distance.
Man it feels like having worked endlessly on an RPG and then having your data corrupted. You have to start all over. It's like 2005 again.