RustyNails
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I visited r/SandersForPresident and it's a haywire. They're focused on Vermont.
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Fenderputty
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Avoid Warren's Twitter and Facebook if you want to avoid cringe as people try to threaten and beg her for and endorsement for Bernie
Check her Facebook, it's about one step away from a 'anti-PP' meltdown.
brainchild
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Yeah, they've both been working their asses off. Nothing but respect for the both of them and their efforts.
Ask me a month ago, and I would have said Warren's endorsement would go a long way towards getting young Bernie stans upset by his loss to stay involved and join Hillary's fold. She's held up as a god of progressivism among Bernie's camp (a title I think is deserved. I rather like Warren).
But now, I'm not so sure. Seeing how things have worked for other high ranking politicians/activists, it seems that this very crowd is more likely to throw anyone not supporting Bernie under the bus. We've seen it happen with prominent feminists, civil rights leaders, and hell fucking Planned Parenthood. Warren's esteem might not hold up if she doesn't fall in line with Bernie.
Which would ultimately make her endorsement pretty useless to Hillary.
lol, if she didn't endorse him after New Hampshire, she wasn't going to do it at all
Veritigo_X
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I lost it at someone calling it "payback for SC."
User 463088
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Earlier today everything was pinned on Mass. Now that Mass looks like it might be trending away from Bernie, they've latched onto making sure Hillary isn't viable in Vermont so that he'll net all 16 delegates.I'm actually legit impressed by some of the stuff I saw on /r whatever it is Bernie 2016 or whatever. Legit impressed. Wish they would turn their passion towards other races if Bernie isn't the nominee.
EDIT: I edited this cause I came off like a dick instead of clever.
In other related news....
I made a delicious pie this evening. It had apples, cranberries orange liqueur...called it a Coronation Pie.
Was delicious.I have respect for both of them as well....however, I lost a little for Bernie in the way he handled the L in SC. That wasn't okay. I admit I'm probably in the minority on that but....it rubbed me the wrong way.
They are probably one step away from throwing her under the bus and calling her a false progressive hiding among the Establishment.
If the media lets him get away with this pathetic of an excuse...
And_Gignac
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Not really.They are focusing on the 40 million Bernie got during February. Theres only one or two Vermont threads in the first page.
Tomorrow the battle for the nomination is over for Bernie, but he will begin his battle for the party platform. I dont think he is dropping out as long as theres cash.
User 463088
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Interestingly, my local new's consumer reporter (? not sure why her, but okay) ran some tapes of Trump in 2000 refusing to run for some 3rd parties nomination because it was associated with Duke. I was legit surprised my local station was trying to do anything with this. I hadn't seen that on MSNBC today, although they may have done it one of the evening programs.
As I said earlier, it feels this week like the media is giving Trump a new level of scrutiny in general and he and his campaign are not knocking it out of the park.
Don't forget one of the godfathers of the economic argument for increasing the minimum wage!
User 463088
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There were people on Reddit calling for a primary challenger for her if she doesn't endorse Bernie and he loses Mass.
At some point it'll start looking like he's a pulling a Carson-type fundraising scam.
PantherLotus
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Yes precisely what I was talking about. He looked sooo freaking old. :|
As long as Bernie keeps things clean and doesn't try to tear Hillary down, I think it's good for him to continue on till the end. Forces her to at least have the pretense of competing for votes and it can't hurt to make a pitch to the electorate in every state before the general.
Black Republican
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One of the best new shows they had. Talking about sexual and racial issues every weekend no one else did was amazing at the time. She was funny and lovable to boot
Roland_Gunner
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My favorite was everyone calling Paul Krugman a neo-liberal sellout after he opposed Sanders' single payer plan. I get the age difference, but for someone who can remember when Krugman was one of the earliest people warning about Bush, that was brutal to see.
User 463088
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Sanders Says He's Running until all 50 states vote
Okay, that's fine. However, something in that article stuck out to me:
This is why his revolution has failed. He's running it against everyone. The only people that are invited to the party are the people who feel the Bern. He's been trying to run against the Democratic party from within the Democratic party. All of the governors and senators and mayors were not his enemy. By refusing to court these people, he cut himself off from a ton of potential supporters and GOTV effort.
I found this line very telling.
Okay, that's fine. However, something in that article stuck out to me:
This is why his revolution has failed. He's running it against everyone. The only people that are invited to the party are the people who feel the Bern. He's been trying to run against the Democratic party from within the Democratic party. All of the governors and senators and mayors were not his enemy. By refusing to court these people, he cut himself off from a ton of potential supporters and GOTV effort.
I found this line very telling.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Which goes directly against his claim that he's the only one who can increase turnout.
gutter_trash
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how can he claim to be running in 50 States when he already conceded The South?
Oklahoma is a dustbowl, LOL
I'm confused as to why someone with "the worlds best memory" seems to be so forgetful on so many topics.
Bernie is who he is. Firmly outside of the establishment and not all that interested in courting or befriending people who are not as ideologically pure as him. He is an idealist. He is also, largely, an island. He has never been and will never be a leader within the democratic party.
adamsappel
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Are they criticizing Trump for not disavowing Duke, while at the same time throwing Romney shade?
I feel the same way for adam. Hillary does not need a monthly pledge of anyone's money.
It is, however, "sexual relations."
User 463088
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Which is why he is unfit to be President, in my opinion. Everyone is not as pure as he is. He has no allies in the Senate who have gone to bat for him. If he cannot build coalitions, he cannot be President. Hillary will be able to control the Democratic caucus. If Bernie can't even play nice with freaking mayors, why in the hell did he do this? Unless it was to prove a point, at which case I think his fleecing his supporters for cash is a bit hard to justify.
I never have donated a penny that I didn't have to spare. I'm lucky in that I have almost no bills at all. I live cheaply, and I was able to donate what I did to a cause that has a good chance of winning. However, I won't be giving any more to her campaign for the primary.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uzDhk3BHi6Q
One of my favorite speeches, given by Bill Clinton at the 2012 DNC. Looking forward to the general election for more moments like this!
One of my favorite speeches, given by Bill Clinton at the 2012 DNC. Looking forward to the general election for more moments like this!
TheLostBigBoss
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you're just not part of the political revolution of 2016 that has less revolters than 2008.
StopMakingSense
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That and his complete lack of giving a shit about foreign policy.
User 463088
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but iraq tho
Yes I agree. Bernie has never been a leader, not even within "his own" party. He is an independent thru and thru and has no record of political leadership on that national stage or in congress that would suggest he can be an effective president.
brainchild
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Bernie has always stood for fairness in representative democracy, so I'm not surprised that he wants every state to have a chance to vote for their candidate. In this specific context, it has nothing to do with winning, and everything to do with principle.
NihonTiger90
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Bill was at the top of his game giving that speech.
The simple explanation is that he's boasting. A lot of time at his rallies he can't even finish his own thoughts.
User 463088
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I mean, his name is on the ballot so even if he suspends his campaign, anyone who wants to vote for him totally can. But I get your point. And that's fine, as long as he's realistic and doesn't do harm to Hillary, I'm fine with it. Not that anyone needs or wanted my permission or approval lol
brainchild
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Yep.
Just like Hillary says that she's going to work for every vote (very commendable of her, BTW), Bernie will want to do the same, and treat each state as if their votes actually matter by actually asking for their vote.
DontBeThatGuy
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Watching that interview was something else, really. He came off so fucking terrible, in every single way.
I'm honestly very happy Bernie has got this far and has had the impact he's had on the campaign. Definitely not money wasted. Hillary is a stronger candidate with clearer objectives because of him. And the campaign between the two has been cordial and professional. The big supporters will come back to the same team, even if it doesn't appear that way now.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It is day and night between the two parties right now in maturity. Especially with Rubio trying to be Trump 2.0.
Well, of course
I actually finally watched one of his rallies all the way through for the first time in the last week. The way he goes on tangents and never gets to the point is so frustrating. You get on the edge of your seat waiting for him to make that remark to close out the thought, and it is just one "By the way..." after another. He usually never circles back, and then moves onto another topic.
He kind of sounds like the broken conversation between two drunk uncles at Christmas airing their many grievances about the world peppered with exaggerated personal anecdotes, except he is having that conversation on his own.
brainchild
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My personal opinion is that Bernie will continue to lead a progressive movement outside of his own candidacy. That means he'll aim for high turnout at the presidential election, and rally again for the midterms.
It won't be so much about promoting Hillary Clinton as it will be about voting to promote progressive values (which includes voting for Hillary).
That was no flub. It was calculated. We know that because when he was first asked his response was "David Duke endorsed me? I disavow it." Then suddenly the next day on CNN he pretends he doesn't know who David Duke is.
The result is he dominates the media cycle the day before Super Tuesday. No one else gets a word in. Southern Republicans, also known as racists, will lap it up. Mark my words, this is only going to help him when the returns come in tomorrow.
User 463088
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I'd agree with you....
But who has he endorsed in Senate/House races? I'm not throwing shade, I'm asking. I get that he's running for a nomination, but has he made those connections with potential allies?
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