Which is more or less the point of the horseshoe theory, it's about similarities in methods and not ideas. At least how I learned it.
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Which is more or less the point of the horseshoe theory, it's about similarities in methods and not ideas. At least how I learned it.
I checked out from the far left after 2008, when I realized they were more interested in putting people in jail and punishing the establishment than actually fixing a goddamn thing. The final straw was when they started saying they wished the ACA bill would fail because it didn't destroy the insurance companies.
Wouldn't this have already appeared after 150 years of far-leftist thought and activity?
Who is "they"? What tendency were you?
Aaronology
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Almost?
In the past the left, Dems essentially, were more focused on economics than racial issues. Now we're starting to take a turn toward a more intersectional approach, with racial issues coming more into the forefront than they have been previously, and there's those on the far left that are resentful that economic issues aren't the end-all anymore. It's from the types that tend to view the class struggle as the struggle we should be fighting and that the racial struggle is just a distraction.
shinra-bansho
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This would review better than Suicide Squad.
And this better than BvS.
balladofwindfishes
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I've seen quite a lot of "liberals" who scream at the top of their lungs that social issues are a scam just to distract us from the "real" issues.
Which I think is a stupid opinion to have. Who cares about the "real" issues if everyone is happy...
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Please, no one throw shade on me. What does the hangry dogs thing come from.
Brocialists and manarchists are a thing, but they don't call for things like segregation. They are usually pretty privileged people that as you said, think that racial, ethic, and gender struggles are distractions because they can be suddenly solved in one fail swoop. Those kinds of people are unfortunate, but to equate them with the far-right is taking it too far. There are groups on the right assaulting refugees and minorities, that isn't equatable at all to stupid posts on reddit.
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User 463088
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I'd more equate the far left environmentalists with that shit, the eco-terrorists who would blow things up and burn things down.
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Sabotaging a multi-national companies project to destroy a forest or take land from aboriginals something isn't on the same level as assaulting a human being to me.
brainchild
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Notice that I said 'potential'. Sometimes you need a catalyst for that potential to be realized. I believe one such catalyst would be for the far left to actually be in a position of power; imagine the far left being in control of the Judicial branch in this century. It's not inconceivable that emergent cases of segregation and discrimination based on ideological purity would be the result of some totalitarian rulings coming from the supreme court.
Obviously, the far left is in no such position at the moment so the aforementioned methodology would have no basis for emerging at this point. However, their current views are not far off the mark.
Well, yeah, I say almost because while both extremes exhibit similar behavior, I don't believe the ideology of the far left is as destructive and oppressive for society as the far right.
I think...he might be on to something here. #muststophillarybeforeitstoolate.
I'm just grateful that Hillary's underlying reptilian form regained control of her mask before all was revealed to the general public.
Trump was bragging at his rally that he won the primaries and used less money than his opponents. Boy he's going to be in shock for the general.
NYCmetsfan
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Guys, suicide squad was a bigger mess than the trumpster fire.
Don't see it.
Trash
Don't see it.
Trash
User 463088
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I know it's terrible, but is it like kid friendly at all?
NYCmetsfan
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Saw a jobs plan ad this afternoon.
Idk where it was targeted at. I was watching on the NBC app using my Florida grandparents Comcast but watching in NYC
I assume they bought Florida airtime.
I was also seeing New York Presbyterian adds to which wouldn't make sense in South Florida
NYCmetsfan
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It's not friendly to anyone who has taste or who understands the basics of plot and editing.
Margot and will were decent and the guy who played a really bad Kyle Reese is much better as Capitan boomerang
The ads probably go by IP.
Yea, I heard. Kinda sucks because it could have been really cool had they done a good job.
User 463088
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Thanks. Probably go see Secret Life of Pets or something with them then. DC is a mess. DC is a mistake.
But everybody isn't happy. That's a very privileged thing to say.
American society is incredibly divided by class, and the working class hasn't won any victories since the 60s. If America were to be ruled by a racially diverse elite instead of an all-white elite, we'd still see exploitation, disempowerment, and oppression.
Social issues aren't a distraction, but the attitude of the post-Reagan "New Left" is to only focus on these issues, and let the poor fend for themselves.
What is the far left? Which groups are you talking about? Why would you ever believe that people who criticize Clinton for being too right-wing would clamor for another round of Jim Crow?
Basileus777
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Is it going to be like BvS where I watch this on blu-ray and think that all the hysteria was exaggerated?
NYCmetsfan
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Yeah.
The DC universe is trash.
Suck from a kid who love the old Batman and Superman cartoons.
Just gonna rewatch them
brainchild
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It's not though. The left we're seeing right now is more intersectional than that. Part of the problem is that if you focus only on the economic you see mostly white people benefit, you need solutions tailored to each group's situation. Part of why we haven't seen any economic victories is because of racism. Elites pitted white working class people against minorities and used racism as a wedge to make sure no one really benefited. Both issues need to be tackled simultaneously, it's not enough to do one then the other.
NYCmetsfan
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I watched the ultimate cut (not the theatrical) and didn't think it was that bad. Not good but an actual movie
This is horrible IMO.
There is no real plot and what exists makes no sense. Things are obviously missing, the editing is a mess, they through music randomly around and the joker and Batman shouldnt be in the movie.
I'm not a film snob but it really is bad.
The characters have something to them but everything else is really really really bad
It really is like a random extended music video.
Auto correct!I saw what you put before the edit. Too much politics on the brain?
Though the DNC is a mess too.
Gonna watch SS and see how it goes. Heard a lot of mixed opinions. Loved the UC for BvS. Never bothered with the theatrical version.
eBay Huckster
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looking like yes
whoever's cutting up these movies for the theatrical releases needs to get fired out of a cannon into the sun
From what I hear there was a good cut of the movie that got destroyed to get what you saw.
Batman and Joker could have worked as a part of the movie if handled properly. Have them doing battle across the city while the Squad handles an issue Batman isn't getting to but needs to be solved. Boom, all of a sudden not only do they need to accomplish their own goals but they need to avoid getting caught up in the Batman vs Joker fight.
NYCmetsfan
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Yeah. I refuse to believe even with a trash script anybody would greenlight what was put out. There has to be stuff missing. And major stuff.
According to a guy who saw an early cut this movie got done dirty in the editing process. A lot of Batman and Joker stuff got cut and a lot of character stuff for the SS got cut. Apparently they may have seen the BvS reaction and panicked.
NYCmetsfan
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I'm not a fan of the joker in this movie but if there isn't a justification for his actions in the movie it's more likely a script problem. Compounded by a editing problem
The left is intersectional in that it pays better attention to various social injustices than it once did. While some shitty socialists might ignore issues like racism, leftist movements generally don't. Look up any leftist political group in the US, and you'll find a huge amount of discussion of bigotry and social liberation. Historically, many of the fiercest advocates for social justice have been socialists, not liberals.
By contrast, Democrats don't talk about labor or poverty very much at all.
NYCmetsfan
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Also movie people making things slow motion and adding popular songs makes things worse not better
Yes it is.
I liked those cartoons when I was younger too, but the Superman isn't a well written character
User 463088
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I still haven;t seen BvS. We managed to convince my bfs nephews that Batman Returns was the new Batman movie. And that Superman was hidden in it.
I bought some apple wood smoked cheese to support the good people of Wisconsin. My god is it delicious. Curse you Scott Walker!
Oh boy, really.:///
All I know is at one point there was apparently a good SS movie and then it got disappeared like it was an investigative journalist in Russia.
Could have just showed him World's Finest, it's basically BvS movie only better in every single way.
NYCmetsfan
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What the fuck.
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thepotatoman
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That new animated Teen Titans movie was good. A lot of the Arrowverse TV stuff is good too. And the DC comics aren't terrible.
It's mostly the cinematic universe that's absolute trash.
User 463088
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I need an adult. That is not okay.
ALso DC on TV is good. Arrow, Flash and Legends are enjoyable if sometimes uninspired. Supergirl is a solid B too.
NYCmetsfan
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Bad opinion time. I like Batman Forever
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I'll back that. It's a fun movie, I won't say it's good, but it's fun.
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