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PoliGAF 2016 |OT9| The Wrath of Khan!

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Y2Kev

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Nothing is. I mean, it goes without saying that no group of people agree on everything. I don't agree with most of the posters in the thread on business but I think I still count as "on the left." Praise Benji.
 
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Slurpy2k20

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http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0806/Why-Donald-Trump-calls-Hillary-Clinton-the-devil

I like how the unprecedented, sensational, false, and despicable attacks against Obama in 2008 now seem extremely tame in comparison to what's being thrown against Hillary. We have the republican nominee calling her literally the devil, a "monster", a
criminal, etc. The damage has already been done, this level political discourse will continue for her entire presidency.
 
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East Lake

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Y2Kev said:
Nothing is. I mean, it goes without saying that no group of people agree on everything. I don't agree with most of the posters in the thread on business but I think I still count as "on the left." Praise Benji.
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Two things. Not every issue has overwhelming uniformity in opinion.

Jill Stein might not be an adequate representation of the far left, but yeah the left is probably pro-putin.
 
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Mecha

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Y2Kev said:
I'm confused. So does the American far left like or dislike Putin? Sounds like there is a definite pro-Putin sentiment in the far left from your post! I mean Dr. Stein seems to be a fan.
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There are many strands of thought in the far-left. The minority that supports Russia because they are a thorn in the side of the US are usually Maoists/third world Maoists. Stalinists and Maoists are usually the guys that support North Korea, USSR, Maoist China, Cuba, Russia, Iran, eastern bloc, etc. The rest of the left usually calls them tankies. Most other state socialists like Trotskyists and democratic socialists don't support those countries (I'm not willing to paint all of them with one brush), and libertarian socialists/anarchists fundamentally don't like any of them. Personally I can't stand tankies or people that support the previously stated countries. Tankies are usually edgelords who entirely ignore issues faced by minorities and instead focus on their hatred for the west.

Also, Jill Stein is edging on being a democratic socialist. A single democratic socialist is not representative of democratic socialism, and democratic socialism is not representative of the entire far-left.
 
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Paradoxal_Utopia said:
http://m.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/0806/Why-Donald-Trump-calls-Hillary-Clinton-the-devil

I like how the unprecedented, sensational, false, and despicable attacks against Obama in 2008 now seem extremely tame in comparison to what's being thrown against Hillary. We have the republican nominee calling her literally the devil, a "monster", a
criminal, etc. The damage has already been done, this level political discourse will continue for her entire presidency.
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Eh, I mean it's pretty awful discourse, but Obama has been called the devil or anti-christ over the past 8 years. That may have mostly been with the rise of the tea party and not in 2008 though
 
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Maledict

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whyamihere said:
Here's that video of Jill outside the RT conference talking about it.

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/vi...ideos/1075629842477205/&show_text=0&width=560
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Jesus fucking Christ.

I didn't think we would ever see a repeat of the 50s and 60s when the far left worshipped Stalin, but this video truly shocks me. What the *fuck* does this incredibly stupid woman think she is doing and saying? Has she no fucking grasp on reality at all? Human Rights and International Law in RUSSIA?
 
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Man God

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ampere said:
Eh, I mean it's pretty awful discourse, but Obama has been called the devil or anti-christ over the past 8 years. That may have mostly been with the rise of the tea party and not in 2008 though
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Yeah just replace racist jokes with sexist ones its basically the same thing. This campaign doesn't seem particularly different than any other one in my lifetime in this regard.
 
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Abinash117

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It is seen in places like in Europe were some left groups are anti- EU. Although, not all the left is the same, but I wager that it has more to do with being anti-intervention, anti-globalism, and possibly wanting the country to solely focus on itself. I don't think some leftist groups care what happens on the outside of their country. When another country challenges the country you think is causing many problems, some will be alright with that even if that said country is not much better. I also doubt they pay much attention either, and probably think that stuff about Russia is western propaganda.
 
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Man God

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You know what? I'm no longer supporting Hillary for Queen.

The young punks in the OT done forgot about the real queen, Victoria.
 
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Man God

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Gruco said:
Prediction:

Donald Trump understands the political reality that he is unlikely to win, and the forces pushing Republicans to distance themselves from him. Rather than complain, Trump takes the lack of support and presumption of loss in stride. After all, the important thing here is that he do the right thing for the party.
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Trump doesn't give a damn about the Republican party. Probably even less of a damn than Sanders does about the Democratic party.
 
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User 463088

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Gruco said:
Prediction:

Donald Trump understands the political reality that he is unlikely to win, and the forces pushing Republicans to distance themselves from him. Rather than complain, Trump takes the lack of support and presumption of loss in stride. After all, the important thing here is that he do the right thing for the party.
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Rebel Leader

THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
The US is allowing drugs?

Next, you'll have him talking how a person tried to sell him drugs with the secret service around him.
 
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shinra-bansho

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You're all forgetting "edgy contrarian left."
Y2Kev said:
Nothing is. I mean, it goes without saying that no group of people agree on everything. I don't agree with most of the posters in the thread on business but I think I still count as "on the left." Praise Benji.
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You're a banker. That's not possible.
 
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shinra-bansho

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His nicknames are idiotic. It just draws attention to how erratic and stupid he is. The news was him asking about using nukes and he wants to label her unstable?

Also I'm watching water polo. It's weird.
 
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
I don't think unstable Hillary will stick. I mean don't most people think she's robotic? lol

Anyway bring on the swimming please NBC
 
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whyamihere

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Cooked Hillary works because it feeds into a narrative.

Unstable Hillary is just dumb because even the most ardent Hillary haters believe she is cold and calculating.
 
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DrForester

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whyamihere said:
Cooked Hillary works because it feeds into a narrative.

Unstable Hillary is just dumb because even the most ardent Hillary haters believe she is cold and calculating.
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Not to mention there are few people who will take Donald Trump calling her unstable seriously.
 
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Tranqueris

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Y2Kev said:
I don't think unstable Hillary will stick. I mean don't most people think she's robotic? lol

Anyway bring on the swimming please NBC
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I'm so glad Trump is an idiot. Queen of Corruption sounded like something that could actually stick if he kept using it but now he's back to unstable Hillary.
 
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Iolo

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Inoculated in the Butt by My Own Butt: Why Dr. Jill Stein Was Right about Vaccines in the End
by Chuck Tingle
 
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