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I can see Russia or China taking advantage of poor relations with Mexico...
Can you imagine a Russian Missile defense force in Mexico?

Trump thinks he has them cornered

Mexico should broker any deal they want with a foreign power to install missiles/bases/outposts... whatever they desire... with China/Russia/North Korea or the highest bidder.

I honestly couldn't blame them.

But I'd wait until the U.S. formally pulled out of the United Nations/NATO first. Don't do it beforehand.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Why would they? This is the perfect time to do a test. Do it on the weekend to see what he will do.

I can easily see Trump making a trip to the DPRK and make some nuke deal just for his bragging rights. If North Korea plays it cool right now Trump will let them have nukes.

Trump has no loyalties. And he sees US policy as his plaything now.

I don't see Trump standing with South Korea or Japan. The only reason he would be against North Korea is to press China.

 

[sc0la]

He is cutting a lot of government jobs

this asshole does not even have a full staff yet, he said he'll make the deals himself

I seriously hope we don't have a military crisis at this point.

North Korea needs to chill for a while

I want a running tally of his jobs "created" at things like the carrier deal vs slashed at the various federal agencies.

 

[nitronite]

Anyone reckon this is the real twitter account of Rex Tillerson? I'm inclined to think that it's not, but on the other hand...

Thoughts?

 

[smokeymicpot]

I can easily see Trump making a trip to the DPRK and make some nuke deal just for his bragging rights. If North Korea plays it cool right now Trump will let them have nukes.

Trump has no loyalties. And he sees US policy as his plaything now.

I don't see Trump standing with South Korea or Japan. The only reason he would be against North Korea is to press China.

Don't see him doing that because of the Iran deal. Doesn't help that Mattis is making his first trip to that area. South Korea and Japan he is going to so wouldn't expect that. DPRK would want to test him out and no time better then his first real week.

This is like playing advanced risk.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Mexico should broker any deal they want with a foreign power to install missiles/bases/outposts... whatever they desire... with China/Russia/North Korea or the highest bidder.

I honestly couldn't blame them.

But I'd wait until the U.S. formally pulled out of the United Nations/NATO first. Don't do it beforehand.

I think if we pull out of UN and NATO that is a game over scenario.
I don't see how we keep California from leaving the Union or any other unthinkable break up of the United States.

these are not normal times, but leaving NATO and UN needs to be above Trump's ability to pull off without impeachment.

 

[B-Dubs]

Anyone reckon this is the real twitter account of Rex Tillerson? I'm inclined to think that it's not, but on the other hand...

Thoughts?

If it were real it'd probably go back further than the start of his confirmation hearings.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Don't see him doing that because of the Iran deal. Doesn't help that Mattis is making his first trip to that area. South Korea and Japan he is going to so wouldn't expect that. DPRK would want to test him out and no time better then his first real week.

This is like playing advanced risk.

Mattis seems like his own man. So that is a serious card to consider.

South Korea wants a Missile Defense installed ASAP but China is against that shit so there is that whole mess ahead of us.

Yeah this is the time for DPRK to test the room.

Iran deal is done, too many other players in that deal. That is why Trump wants to start doing one on one deals instead of these multi-nations deals he can't easily fuck with.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Mattis seems like his own man. So that is a serious card to consider.

South Korea wants a Missile Defense installed ASAP but China is against that shit so there is that whole mess ahead of us.

Yeah this is the time for DPRK to test the room.

Iran deal is done, too many other players in that deal. That is why Trump wants to start doing one on one deals instead of these multi-nations deals he can't easily fuck with.

Yeah and Mattis already got a fuck you with the deal from yesterday. He had no idea about it until it was announced.

Mattis is a smart man and if he leaves we are fucked. Having him is a huge relief but scary that Trump will go over his head.

China is going to swoop right in and take all these deals. They have no reason not to when we are burning the bridges. The one on one deals are shit when he clearly doesn't know how the world works. Running the country like a business will not work.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

This is why we can't have things.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article128912804.html

Half of NC’s youngest voters skipped 2016 election, while seniors had record turnout

Nearly half of North Carolina’s registered voters between age 18 and 25 didn’t bother to cast a ballot in November, according to a new analysis released Thursday.

-The state’s youngest voters had the worst turnout of the demographic groups in the study. Only 53 percent of registered voters in the 18-to-25 age group cast ballots, down from 55 percent in 2012 and 60 percent in 2008.

-The state’s oldest voters had some of the highest turnout numbers: 78 percent of registered voters age 65 and older participated this year, a new record.

- White voters had the biggest turnout of the racial groups listed, with 71.5 percent turnout compared to 64.3 percent for African-Americans and 57.7 percent for Hispanic registered voters.

- Registered Republicans had stronger turnout than registered Democrats: 75.3 percent for Republicans and 68.5 percent for Democrats. Only 63.1 percent of voters registered as unaffiliated participated in the election.

More behind the link.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

OMG CNN nooooo!

CNN to have Chrisette Michele on to talk about how Spike Lee dropped her music

ugh this lady is milking this attention for all the cheese she can get

 

[smokeymicpot]

OMG CNN nooooo!

CNN to have Chrisette Michele on to talk about how Spike Lee dropped her music

ugh this lady is milking this attention for all the cheese she can get

It is a pr move. She is trying to save her ass because she realized she fucked up.

 

[Joe]

Evan McMullin and Mindy Finn, + their organization Stand Up Republic.

Ana Navarro?

Evan McMullin, David Frum, Rick Wilson

Thanks!

 

[Wilsongt]

This is why we can't have things.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article128912804.html



More behind the link.

Color me surprised.

 

[ugaboga232]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wow-it-gets-bigger

Newsweek also has an article on this. Seems like stuff is happening behind the scenes.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Yeah and Mattis already got a fuck you with the deal from yesterday. He had no idea about it until it was announced.

Mattis is a smart man and if he leaves we are fucked. Having him is a huge relief but scary that Trump will go over his head.

China is going to swoop right in and take all these deals. They have no reason not to when we are burning the bridges. The one on one deals are shit when he clearly doesn't know how the world works. Running the country like a business will not work.

Which deal was that?

there were too many going on I can't keep up

 

[B-Dubs]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wow-it-gets-bigger

Newsweek also has an article on this. Seems like stuff is happening behind the scenes.

Yea, like people pointed out in the thread: this guy was either the fall guy or the one leaking info to us about what was going on. Looks like it may be the latter.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Which deal was that?

there were too many going on I can't keep up

Blacksites thing.

 

[royalan]

So, a feel-good story for the day.

One of the buildings I usually work in here in Center City, Philadelphia houses the U.S. Department of Education regional offices. I walk by their lobby almost everyday, on the quietest floor in the building.

In the lobby of their offices, there's a little desk on which, until the week before the inauguration, sat a framed photo of Obama, and another of his Secretary of Education, John King.

The week of the inauguration, only Obama's photo remained on the desk.

The day of the inauguration, there were no photos on the desk.

The day after the inauguration, and every day since, whenever I walk by those offices, I see this:

That's a frame turned face down.

Spoiler

There's a chance there might not be a photo in that frame, but I'd like to think there is.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Blacksites thing.

Oh right forgot that one

we should have a poll on who will be Trump's first war.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

crap I wanted to edit my post not quote


this ambassador just gave Trump an out on the Mexico wall. seize the $14Billion Joaquín Guzmán has to fund the wall

 

[B-Dubs]

Oh right forgot that one

we should have a poll on who will be Trump's first war.

It's going to be Iraq. He wants that oil.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

It's going to be Iraq. He wants that oil.

too easily he telegraphed that so early, he can't go there without looking super greedy. His first move has to be some other country (with oil)

LOL CNN showing Trump on Airforce One and the TV was on full blast with commercials playing lol

 

[StopMakingSense]

too easily he telegraphed that so early, he can't go there without looking super greedy. His first move has to be some other country (with oil)

Venezuela!

 

[whyamihere]

@abbydphillip
News on AF1: Spicer says Trump has decided to pay for the wall with a 20 percent tax on imports as part of overall tax reform.

Well. The recovery was nice while it lasted.

 

[metalslimer]

I wouldn't want anything to do with the intelligence community working overseas when the Trump team may be compromised

 

[StopMakingSense]

Well. The recovery was nice while it lasted.

So the American people will indirectly pay for it.

 

[whyamihere]

So the American people will indirectly pay for it.

Yup.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Venezuela!

Man, that is unexpected. I am just trying to think of how he does it.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Which deal was that?

there were too many going on I can't keep up

The leaked memo https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html. About torture and stuff like that Mattis had no idea.

 

[Plinko]

So basically the lower and middle class are going to end up paying for that wall.

 

[B-Dubs]

too easily he telegraphed that so early, he can't go there without looking super greedy. His first move has to be some other country (with oil)

You think he cares?

 

[Smiles and Cries]

lol
https://twitter.com/Nazaire73/status/824714983263141888
Reports: U.S. Border Patrol chief has resigned


Official: Border Patrol chief tells agents he was forced out
http://www.kltv.com/story/34354873/border-patrol-chief-out-day-after-trump-border-fence-decree

 

[whyamihere]

So basically the lower and middle class are going to end up paying for that wall.

Honestly, the attack ads write themselves if this thing passes.

 

[metalslimer]

Imports from Mexico only?

 

[Plinko]

Imports from Mexico only?

That is his plan currently.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

too easily he telegraphed that so early, he can't go there without looking super greedy. His first move has to be some other country (with oil)

LOL CNN showing Trump on Airforce One and the TV was on full blast with commercials playing lol

Venezuela!

Bruh the answer is Iran. Gets to kill that pesky Iran deal, Israel would jump for joy.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Imports from Mexico only?

For now. Don't give them any ideas. Do I get to write my name on my wall?

 

[A Human Becoming]

Is there a way for the Republicans to get around the Democratic filibuster to fund the wall? Would budget reconciliation work?

 

[B-Dubs]

Is there a way for the Republicans to get around the Democratic filibuster to fund the wall? Would budget reconciliation work?

Depends on how and where they get the money.

 

[metalslimer]

That is his plan currently.

We are so fucked.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

20% tax on imports is obscene

Limes and avocados are going to become luxury foods overnight

 

[thepotatoman]

There's supposedly a little bit of a legal debate going on right now behind the scenes about how far Budget Reconciliation really can go, with some arguing that Republicans can basically pass anything that affects the budget.

Though at that point they're practically nuking the filibuster themselves, just in a different way than usual, and they probably want to keep Budget Reconciliation as only a destructive force.

 

[DopeyFish]

Imports from Mexico only?

Nah. He mentioned a tax for Canadian imports, too.

We don't know what they are planning. (In terms of percentage, tariffs, whatever)

 

[Wilsongt]

Glad I hate avocados.

 

[smokeymicpot]

Nah. He mentioned a tax for Canadian imports, too.

We don't know what they are planning. (In terms of percentage, tariffs, whatever)

Neither does he.

 

[Plinko]

I'm not kidding here: I wonder if he genuinely believes a 20% tax on imports would be paid by Mexico.

 

[Sibylus]

Nah. He mentioned a tax for Canadian imports, too.

We don't know what they are planning. (In terms of percentage, tariffs, whatever)

Anyone want our trees, oil, and natural resources?

 

[Androidsleeps]

Meanwhile, the Domesday clock is now set at 2.5 minutes to midnight.

 

[metalslimer]

I'm not kidding here: I wonder if he genuinely believes a 20% tax on imports would be paid by Mexico.

I think he actually does.