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[AntraxSuicide]

Huh. Looking closely it's actually an Espeon.

My opinion of Bonen has decreased.

Technically it means his avatar is a Pokemon that would actually wreck the one you thought he had.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Technically it means his avatar is a Pokemon that would actually wreck the one you thought he had.

By this logic, you're defending Arceus, one of the gravest design sins and most unlikeable Pokemon ever to sully this good earth.

 

[Box of Kittens]

Bonen gets fewer accusations about his positions, for example, because Bonen makes more effort to establish his bona fides in potentially controversial posts.

So we're just supposed to forget about the whole Mexican food thing?

 

[shinra-bansho]

This is weird.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Nidoran is bad because of how much it relies on traditional gender norms.

Which one? There are two nidoran..

Huh. Looking closely it's actually an Espeon.

My opinion of Bonen has decreased.

You mean a better Pokémon?

So we're just supposed to forget about the whole Mexican food thing?

And the Shakespeare thing

 

[Deleted member 231381]

This is weird.

Is it, shinra? Is it?

 

[pigeon]

So we're just supposed to forget about the whole Mexican food thing?

Bonen is clearly racist against Mexican food but I assume as he continues to be part of the Democratic coalition he'll just change those opinions to blend in.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

I don't think it's this because I don't know anything about Pokemon and I think crabs are cute. Who doesn't like sideways walking?

Fun fact: I temporarily considered Kingler before instead selecting Espeon

Huh. Looking closely it's actually an Espeon.

My opinion of Bonen has decreased.

wat Espeon is best eeveelution ur dumb

 

[Rebel Leader]

Oh, nvm

Didn't see the previous posts

 

[Deleted member 231381]

wat Espeon is best eeveelution ur dumb

queen bae jolteon slays shaded espeon hoebag

yaas

 

[pigeon]

It's still so weird that young people like Pokemon

 

[Carpe Libertatem]

let's all go back to the time when Herman Cain quoted Pokemon The Movie 2000

(this is actually the second time he did)

edit: fuck this is reminding me just how great Herman Cain's ads were

 

[FloydtheFathead]

It's still so weird that young people like Pokemon

I mean it's still interesting to this day

 

[CygnusXS]

It's still so weird that young people like Pokemon

Because the new generations are trash? Yeah.

 

[Box of Kittens]

And the Shakespeare thing

Honestly, I can tolerate people who don't like Shakespeare a lot better than the people who subscribe to conspiracy theories about who wrote the plays.

 

[thepotatoman]

Not...really? He remains staggeringly unpopular and can't get anybody in Washington to do anything he wants unless they already wanted to do it (ICE and terrorizing people of color)?

The evidence of Trump's win is not that bad media is good. It's that the cabbage story is true -- anybody the Republican party nominates, no matter what, has at least a small chance of winning just on party loyalty. Trump is probably WORSE than a cabbage and he won!

That's why it's so important for parties to enforce their boundaries, and why the Republican Party establishment failed in its fundamental duty to the American people by refusing to oppose Trump, which is why they must be removed from public life.

Worked in the primary, mostly because it was an 8 way race and those voters believe their gut over facts anyway.

Certainly didn't work in the general. Dynamic seemed to be that both were very hated and whichever the media focused on more reminded people of their hatred and swung the polls fairly drastically against them, between +8 to +0 hilary leads.

 

[kirblar]

Because the new generations are trash? Yeah.

My generation had Neocons! Not Nazis! And the Neocons got taught a big lesson by Bush!

 

[Wilsongt]

My generation had Neocons! Not Nazis! And the Neocons got taught a big lesson by Bush!

Isn't Hillary a neocon?

🤔🤔🤔

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Honestly, I can tolerate people who don't like Shakespeare a lot better than the people who subscribe to conspiracy theories about who wrote the plays.

Box pls...

 

[shinra-bansho]

What is an espeon? In my day there were only 3 evees.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Honestly, I can tolerate people who don't like Shakespeare a lot better than the people who subscribe to conspiracy theories about who wrote the plays.

I actually like a fair bit of Shakespeare, especially Othello, Twelfth Night, and Much Ado About Nothing. I just loathe Macbeth.

 

[CygnusXS]

My generation had Neocons! Not Nazis! And the Neocons got taught a big lesson by Bush!

The 7th gen starters are trash, let's just be honest.

 

[Box of Kittens]

Box pls...

The former have bad opinions, the latter have bad opinions that they make into bad books and films.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

I actually like a fair bit of Shakespeare, especially Othello, Twelfth Night, and Much Ado About Nothing. I just loathe Macbeth.

Bonen pls

The former have bad opinions, the latter have bad opinions that they make into bad books and films.

Fair point

 

[Plinko]

The Democratic Party should not impose support for abortion rights as a litmus test on its candidates, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Tuesday, because it needs a broad and inclusive agenda to win back the socially conservative voters who helped elect President Trump.

”This is the Democratic Party. This is not a rubber-stamp party," Pelosi said in an interview with Washington Post reporters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.b5caf1108b49

Preach it, Nancy.

 

[Box of Kittens]

If you're going to hate on Shakespeare, at least hate on Titus Andronicus.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.b5caf1108b49

Preach it, Nancy.

Nancy knows what is up.

 

[FloydtheFathead]

If you're going to hate on Shakespeare, at least hate on Titus Andronicus.

Exactly

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

Why is it more important to attract social conservatives than fiscal ones?

And why are abortion rights less important than racial equality or gay rights?

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Bonen pls

Good parts of Macbeth: when the family gets offed and the little boys says "He has killed me, Mother"

bad parts: everything else

 

[pigeon]

I'm sad that Nancy has to go out and say dumb shit to give cover to old men.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

Good parts of Macbeth: when the family gets offed and the little boys says "He has killed me, Mother"

bad parts: everything else

What?! Really?

"No man of woman born can slay me"
"I was from my mother's womb untimely ripped"

Really? Not that part?

 

[FloydtheFathead]

Good parts of Macbeth: when the family gets offed and the little boys says "He has killed me, Mother"

bad parts: everything else

Lady Macbeth having a mental breakdown trying to clean that spot?

What?! Really?

"No man of woman born can slay me"
"I was from my mother's womb untimely ripped"

Really? Not that part?

Also this..

 

[TestOfTide]

Why is it more important to attract social conservatives than fiscal ones?

And why are abortion rights less important than racial equality or gay rights?

Unfortunately, a 50 state strategy means you have to run socially conservative Dems in Red areas sometimes.

Keep in mind that our huge majorities in the house in 2009 and 2010 included a lot of pro-life democrats. But when we absolutely needed their votes (like with the ACA), they were there for us.

 

[Plinko]

Why is it more important to attract social conservatives than fiscal ones?

And why are abortion rights less important than racial equality or gay rights?

They're not less important. They just aren't talked about because right now racial equality and gay rights are 100% ingrained as part of the democratic belief system. Abortion isn't, as the polls described in the article show, and that's what she's addressing.

Keep in mind that our huge majorities in the house in 2009 and 2010 included a lot of pro-life democrats. But when we absolutely needed their votes (like with the ACA), they were there for us.

Not only that, but look at the Bob Casey example she talks about. Pro-life himself, but fights for Planned Parenthood and women's rights. There are a lot of democrats out there like that. I'm tired of the misnomer that being pro-life means you would would desire to repeal Roe v. Wade, eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, etc.

 

[whyamihere]

Louise Mensch's favorite Pokemon is Vanilluxe.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Nancy Peloshield.

 

[B-Dubs]

Louise Mensch's favorite Pokemon is Vanilluxe.

The worst pokemon.

Well second worst, Seda is the worst pokemon. His tag says so.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

I mean, if we're going to go the whole "I personally oppose it but I don't believe in legislating against it" rout I think that's a non-starter. Because 1. how many people actually believe that and 2. even if they ran on it the people who vote based on abortion vote to make it illegal, they don't want a candidate who says they represent pro-life and then doesn't act on it.

 

[Bonen no Max'd]

Louise Mensch's favorite Pokemon is Vanilluxe.

idgi

 

[neurosisxeno]

Y'all are sleeping on the GOAT Pokemon, Trubbish;

He's literally a fucking bag of trash lol.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

Isn't there an ice cream cone, too?

 

[Plinko]

I mean, if we're going to go the whole "I personally oppose it but I don't believe in legislating against it" rout I think that's a non-starter. Because 1. how many people actually believe that and 2. even if they ran on it the people who vote based on abortion vote to make it illegal, they don't want a candidate who says they represent pro-life and then doesn't act on it.

I've literally met over a hundred people who go completely against what you just said here, and my social circles aren't very large.

 

[shinra-bansho]

They're not less important. They just aren't talked about because right now racial equality and gay rights are 100% ingrained as part of the democratic belief system. Abortion isn't, as the polls described in the article show, and that's what she's addressing.

Not only that, but look at the Bob Casey example she talks about. Pro-life himself, but fights for Planned Parenthood and women's rights. There are a lot of democrats out there like that. I'm tired of the misnomer that being pro-life means you would would desire to repeal Roe v. Wade, eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, etc.

Abortion rights are ingrained in most liberal secular democracies.

Abortion rights should be a litmus test.

Abortion rights are also an economic and health issue.

That doesn't mean you need to personally "believe in abortion" or whatever nonsense people on the right has drilled into general consciousness about liberals ripping babies out and eating them gleefully.

And yes, they're clearly less important to old white men.

 

[royalan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.b5caf1108b49

Preach it, Nancy.

This is all well and good.

But the next time a Democratic candidate running for some seat in some state gets a bit of national spotlight, and he doesn't use the attention to scream "FREE COLLEGE AND SINGLE PAYER!!!!!!", a certain someone needs to keep his fucking mouth closed. Because constantly seeing these kinds of statements levied against social issues and minority rights, but not at the Berniegenda is getting really fucking tired.

 

[kadotsu]

One day my Gowdy will evolve to Goodra.

 

[Plinko]

Abortion rights are ingrained in most liberal secular democracies.

Abortion rights should be a litmus test.

Abortion rights are also an economic and health issue.

That doesn't mean you need to personally "believe in abortion" or whatever nonsense people on the right has drilled into general consciousness about liberals ripping babies out and eating them gleefully.

I agree with you on everything except the "litmus test."

This is all well and good.

But the next time a Democratic candidate running for some seat in some state gets a bit of national spotlight, and he doesn't use the attention to scream "FREE COLLEGE AND SINGLE PAYER!!!!!!", a certain someone needs to keep his fucking mouth closed. Because constantly seeing these kinds of issues levied against social issues and minority rights, but not at the Berniegenda is getting really fucking tired.

Agree with this as well. Political poison.

 

[CrimzonSamurai]

I've literally met over a hundred people who go completely against what you just said here, and my social circles aren't very large.

I've never met a socially conservative voter who wouldn't rather vote for the guy who says he'll vote to eliminate planned parenthood funding instead of the one who doesn't like planned parenthood but will still vote to fund it. That position makes no sense whatsoever. Plus if we let those people run they will start trying to eliminate reproductive rights eventually.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

I mean, if we're going to go the whole "I personally oppose it but I don't believe in legislating against it" rout I think that's a non-starter. Because 1. how many people actually believe that and 2. even if they ran on it the people who vote based on abortion vote to make it illegal, they don't want a candidate who says they represent pro-life and then doesn't act on it.

Tim Kaine, Bob Casey, and many other democrats hold that view though. It mirrors the views of many Americans who personally are opposed to abortion but believe the choice is up to the mother. People are complex.

Pelosi is right. What's left unsaid is that pro-life (or personally pro-life) candidates will never make up the majority of the party, so there's really no risk in including them in the party. There's nothing wrong with ideological diversity on this or many other issues.

What's also left unsaid is that Pelosi was smart enough to protect members depending on their needs. If she didn't need a vote from a pro-life or pro-gun member for instance, she didn't whip them to death. That's what you can do when you're really good at being Speaker and your caucus trusts you.

 

[teiresias]

Good parts of Macbeth: when the family gets offed and the little boys says "He has killed me, Mother"

bad parts: everything else

No lies detected. The best Shakespeare is Titus Andronicus (the movie with Athony Hopkins and Jessica Lange is superb) and King Lear.