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PoliGAF 2017 |OT4| The leaks are coming from inside the white house

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Holmes

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whyamihere said:
He's real proud of that one.
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There's an argument to be made that by making colleges and universities "free", they would jack up the price of tuition and we would end up paying more, but through tax, cost of living, price of goods, etc.

But that's obviously not what he's saying.
 
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whyamihere

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Holmes said:
There's an argument to be made that by making colleges and universities "free", they would jack up the price of tuition and we would end up paying more, but through tax, cost of living, price of goods, etc.

But that's obviously not what he's saying.
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No, it's not.
 
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kirblar

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Wilsongt said:
Shocking. SC is going to start requiring psychological tests for police officers.
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Here's the article - https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...ire-psychological-tests-for-aspiring-officers

Psychological screening is already a standard part of the hiring process for the 59 agencies in South Carolina that are either state or nationally accredited, said the academy's director, Jackie Swindler. But there are nearly 300 law enforcement agencies statewide.

Lawmakers provided $550,400 for the tests in the budget that took effect July 1, as the council requested.

That will be used to reimburse agencies, up to $300 per screening, Swindler said.

Newberry County Sheriff Lee Foster called the funding a "blessing."

"So many agencies — especially small, rural agencies — are not able to afford a psychological evaluation and testing," said Foster, a council member.

Screenings take several hours and include online and written tests as well as an interview, said Andrew Ryan of Columbia, a retired NCIS chief psychologist and former chairman of psychological services for the International Association of Chiefs of Police.

After an analysis, candidates are deemed suitable, not suitable or marginally suitable, meaning some answers are concerning, Ryan said.

The goal is to "make sure we don't let anyone into the system that there's some question about because it's very hard to argue down the road if a mistake is made, 'Well, we thought he was a good guy,' or, 'He looked like he was going to be a good guy.' No, this is the validation," said Ryan, a Columbia native who started his police psychology career in 1990 with a research project at the academy, testing people already enrolled.

Generally, less than 10 percent of candidates are obviously not suited for the job and roughly 20 percent are questionable, he said.

The screening isn't a catchall, but it is a useful prediction tool before someone's hired, Swindler said. The new mandate requires only that the screening occur. Each agency's chief or sheriff remains responsible for the hiring decision.

"We do not make them show us the results. That's on that agency. That's where the liability falls," Swindler said. "Hopefully, people will use it properly."
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They won't use it properly, unfortunately. But it's a step at least.
 
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Lucky Forward

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McCain rival suggests he should resign after brain cancer diagnosis

An Arizona Republican who tried to oust Sen. John McCain last year suggested Friday that he resign because he has been diagnosed with an aggressive form of brain cancer.

Kelli Ward, who is a doctor, said in a statement that the 80-year-old McCain's diagnosis is grim and that his cancer, glioblastoma, "is both devastating and debilitating."

"As a doctor, I've counseled patients in similar situations and these end-of-life choices are never easy. I usually advise terminal patients to reduce stress, relax and spend time laughing with loved ones," Ward wrote.

"The Senate has complicated and difficult problems to deal with and Arizona deserves to be represented by someone who can focus on those challenges," she added.
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In a statement, Flake called McCain a hero and said he expected to see the state's senior senator return to the Senate soon.

"I'm dumbstruck by Kelli Ward's comments," Flake said.
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AntraxSuicide

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whyamihere said:
Kind of agree with this.

It's just no one can say what's very plainly obvious.
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Yeah, which I wish we could get over. My wife's grandparents are both very old, and should have in-home care at a minimum. But they refuse to do it for their own pride (which I get!). The sad thing is that my father-in-law (their son) is correct; one of these days they won't call for awhile, and we'll find out that one of them fell. Or they'll get into a car accident because they're still driving (even though they've already crashed a car because they can't drive).

It fucking sucks because it's going to be a completely preventable tragedy.
 
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BlastProcessing

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royalan said:
It's gross because she's his political opponent.

But it's sound advice from a doctor...which she also is.
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She's not his doctor though and she doesn't even have the facts of the case. It's unethical for her to weigh in in such a public way to begin with. Combine that with her own obvious conflict of interest and it's ghastly.

AntraxSuicide said:
Yeah, which I wish we could get over. My wife's grandparents are both very old, and should have in-home care at a minimum. But they refuse to do it for their own pride (which I get!). The sad thing is that my father-in-law (their son) is correct; one of these days they won't call for awhile, and we'll find out that one of them fell. Or they'll get into a car accident because they're still driving (even though they've already crashed a car because they can't drive).

It fucking sucks because it's going to be a completely preventable tragedy.
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Death isn't a preventable tragedy. It's going to happen to all of us no matter what. I have taken care of someone with a glioblastoma. The cancer robs you of your dignity. Let McCain fight for his on his own terms. There is no reason to publicly weigh in and attack him here. None.
 
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royalan

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BlastProcessing said:
She's not his doctor though and she doesn't even have the facts of the case. It's unethical for her to weigh in in such a public way to begin with. Combine that with her own obvious conflict of interest and it's ghastly.
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I don't disagree with the conflict of interest of a comment like this coming from her specifically.
 
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BlastProcessing

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@octonion
Why does Trump think health insurance costs $12/year? Because Gerber advertises life insurance for babies on Fox News for about that price.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| We support single-payer Gerber Life.
 
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AntraxSuicide

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BlastProcessing said:
She's not his doctor though and she doesn't even have the facts of the case. It's unethical for her to weigh in in such a public way to begin with. Combine that with her own obvious conflict of interest and it's ghastly.



Death isn't a preventable tragedy. It's going to happen to all of us no matter what. I have taken care of someone with a glioblastoma. The cancer robs you of your dignity. Let McCain fight for his on his own terms. There is no reason to publicly weigh in and attack him here. None.
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Of course it shouldn't be coming from a political opponent, but I really hoped after we had several incapacitated Presidents, we'd start moving towards asking these questions. It's a question that should've been put to McCain's doctor (and the public) long before this diagnosis. The guy's about to be 81! It's actually a bit ridiculous how many Congresspeople we have in their 80s. That's not great!
 
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kirblar

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AntraxSuicide said:
Of course it shouldn't be coming from a political opponent, but I really hoped after we had several incapacitated Presidents, we'd start moving towards asking these questions. It's a question that should've been put to McCain's doctor (and the public) long before this diagnosis. The guy's about to be 81! It's actually a bit ridiculous how many Congresspeople we have in their 80s. That's not great!
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Extended lifespans are causing a lot of the new political problems we're seeing around the world.
 
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The Technomancer

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I don't think Ward's comments were appropriate but
and said he expected to see the state's senior senator return to the Senate soon.
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McCain is 80 years old and he is going to be going through chemo. The chemo is going to basically serve the function of killing him slower. I get that they cant just announce his retirement, but come on
 
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Wilsongt

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The Technomancer said:
I don't think Ward's comments were appropriate but


McCain is 80 years old and he is going to be going through chemo. The chemo is going to basically serve the function of killing him slower. I get that they cant just announce his retirement, but come on
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Let McCain have his vote on taking away government funded health insurance from millions while he enjoys his government funded health insurance paying for his treatment for cancer. It's all he has left.
 
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Loxley

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The Technomancer said:
I don't think Ward's comments were appropriate but


McCain is 80 years old and he is going to be going through chemo. The chemo is going to basically serve the function of killing him slower. I get that they cant just announce his retirement, but come on
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On one hand, I can commend McCain if this is genuinely him saying "Like hell I'm going to let cancer dictate how I live my life, I'm going back to work regardless". On the other hand, as you said, the man is 80 years old with aggressive cancer, and since chemo essentially destroys a person's immune system, the odds of him not being completely bed-ridden while undergoing treatment are next to zero.

My guess is he'll stick it out for another month (if that) on the off-chance anything with healthcare actually happens, but once he decides to undergo treatment, he's done.
 
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ArkhamFantasy

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I'm fine with old people being in the house and senate as long as they're still sharp. But you could tell from Comey's hearing that something wasn't right with McCain. He needs to retire, im not trying to be a dick but this is an extremely important job and we need our politicians at 100%.
 
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Dan

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Abinash117 said:
The House vote is going to be on Tuesday and is expected to be passed overwelmingly bad the House and Senate.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/21/russia-sanctions-deal-trump-congress-240814
The accord on a package of sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea is set for a House vote on Tuesday, according to the announcement from Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy's office. To resolve a partisan clash over giving House Democrats the power to force a vote blocking Trump from easing sanctions on Moscow, the deal expedites House consideration of any anti-Trump vote that the Senate has already passed.
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So, wait, does that mean the House is deferring to the Senate for actually enforcing this bill?

And why do I feel like the White House is going to try to pocket veto and claim an override isn't allowed.

BlastProcessing said:
@octonion
Why does Trump think health insurance costs $12/year? Because Gerber advertises life insurance for babies on Fox News for about that price.
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Oh...

Some fun headlines:

WaPo: Philippines’ Duterte vows not to come to the U.S.: ‘I’ve seen America, and it’s lousy’
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, previously praised and invited by President Trump to come to the White House, said he will not visit the United States during or after his term because the country is “lousy.”

Duterte's remarks about one of the Philippines' oldest allies was in response to Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), who said he would protest if the Filipino leader utilized Trump's invitation.

“There will never be a time that I will go to America during my term, or even thereafter. So what makes that guy think I'll go to America? I've seen America, and it's lousy,” Duterte told reporters Friday about McGovern.
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NYT: Trump’s Virginia Golf Outings Leave Paddlers High, Dry and Angry
WASHINGTON — Every Sunday afternoon during the summer, just an hour from the White House, a group of wounded veterans take to the waters of the Potomac River in kayaks for exercise, therapy and camaraderie before cutting into a free barbecue organized by the community.

The weekly ritual is now threatened by the recreational outings of a man who has frequently praised the nation’s wounded warriors: President Trump.

To protect the president’s rounds at his Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., the Coast Guard plans to regularly close off the stretch of the Potomac that the veterans of Team River Runner use, along with summer campers, Olympic athletes and casual paddlers. Mindful of the veterans’ grievous war wounds — some physical, some psychological — Washington’s chapter of Team River Runner likes to avoid the crowds in nearby creeks and more heavily used stretches of the river.

That may soon be impossible.

“We are very thoughtful about where we paddle, so we don’t go where there will be danger or conflict,” said co-founder Joe Mornini. “Our veterans have had enough conflict.”

The two-mile security zone along the golf course’s riverfront includes the entrance to rapids popular in Washington’s sizable kayaking circles and a boat ramp used by much of the local community. A man’s golfing habit may cause friction with family and friends left behind, but when he is the president, the aggrieved parties tend to expand. On instructions from the Secret Service, the Coast Guard will occasionally be shutting down that stretch of water, and interlopers will be subject to a $90,000 fine.
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barber

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Does he always say nobody know how stuff work when he doesn't know it himself?
Balloons working are some of the easiest explanations ever! It is not even hard when you know a little bit of science!
Edit: Ioh fake :( but it still works whenever he says "nobody knew / knows"
 
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AntraxSuicide

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ArkhamFantasy said:
I really wish people would stop doing this, even if its good for a laugh people will use stuff like this to cling to their "Fake news" charade.
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Dan said:
Yup, self-defeating bullshit for a cheap, ephemeral laugh.
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I get that, but it also kinda drives home the point that a lot of people would buy that he actually said that. You put Obama's name there (or even Dubya's!) and I sniff it out in a heartbeat. But god Trump is so dumb
 
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Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
AntraxSuicide said:
I get that, but it also kinda drives home the point that a lot of people would buy that he actually said that. You put Obama's name there (or even Dubya's!) and I sniff it out in a heartbeat. But god Trump is so dumb
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It's only [briefly] convincing to people who already know/believe Trump is dumb. It does absolutely nothing positive to move the needle on anyone else. It's almost certainly does the opposite.
 
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BlastProcessing

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timetokill said:
Odds on Trump overriding the Russia sanctions deal Congress just made?
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It's a tough one, because he will get his veto overridden. So the smart thing to do would be to not Veto to avoid the embarrassment, but Trump isn't smart and wants to project power above all else, but getting overridden by your own parties Congress makes you look super weak.

I think he vetoes, and then he has Sessions press that the law is an unconstitutional limit on executive power.
 
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