Yes. The Speaker of the House gets to decide what comes up on the floor.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Yes. The Speaker of the House gets to decide what comes up on the floor.
He can decide not to propose the bill, killing it by default.
Same in the Senate if I remember correctly. Which is one of the most stupid things and why a +1 for your speaker is really important.
RustyNails
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Well, what do you think happened to the Gang of 8 immigration reform bill? Boehner never brought to the floor.
Yes. Parliamentary rules means he gets to decide whether things come up for a vote at all or not. Usually only a very small amount of time each year is given to backbencher bills and private member bills.
balladofwindfishes
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Ryan also follows the ridiculous Hastert rule (named after a convicted pedophile) which means even if the bill could pass with the minority party + some majority party votes, it won't be put up to a vote unless the majority of the majority will vote on it.
By the way, did I mention this rule was named after a convicted pedophile, whom the GOP still respect, because of course they do.
By the way, did I mention this rule was named after a convicted pedophile, whom the GOP still respect, because of course they do.
When the Big Orange Baby won the election of course knew he'd be terrible on policy/planning/leadership/etc. I wonder how long the list is of things we hoped wouldn't be a problem because at the very least we assumed Trump was a functioning human being. Off the top of my head, I assumed any human would know:
- How to shake a hand properly
- Not to shove world leaders aside when at gatherings
- When talking to children, don't swear
- When talking to children, don't talk about politics
- When talking to children, don't talk about sex
- Don't call members of your own party (or the other party, really) fools
- Hire people with experience relevant to their positions
- Don't call the White House a dump
etc etc etc
- How to shake a hand properly
- Not to shove world leaders aside when at gatherings
- When talking to children, don't swear
- When talking to children, don't talk about politics
- When talking to children, don't talk about sex
- Don't call members of your own party (or the other party, really) fools
- Hire people with experience relevant to their positions
- Don't call the White House a dump
etc etc etc
The Immigration bill worries (not that the system needs no reforms but this bill sounds like trash, I don't trust the Trump administration to do it well/for non-racist reasons and scaling back legal immigration is akin to cosigning America to a slow, painful death and a deprivation of just good people in general) but it feels like the sort of thing even enough Republicans in Congress would balk at to kill it outright. Is that a correct read of the situation?
BoogieWoogie
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The Mooch talks about his NY Times Conversation post firing:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/anthony-scaramucci-explains-new-yorker-rant-241238?cmpid=sf
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/anthony-scaramucci-explains-new-yorker-rant-241238?cmpid=sf
IggyChooChoo
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These are all good points. Could you refresh my memory on the swearing around children thing?
BoogieWoogie
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balladofwindfishes
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Joe Shlabotnik
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It's not really about "succeeding". There's no stopping the shitstorm clouds building up over his head. A basically functioning White House with a proper chain of command is important for the stability of the country now and going forward.
He's still fucked even if Kelly manages to instill minimal discipline in the Oval Office.
Thaedolus
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Wait until Russia retaliated against him
He swore at many of his rallies before the election, but I was specifically referring to the "what the hell do I want to talk about poliltics for" comment in front of the Boy Scouts the other day.
WE ARE ON PEE TAPE ALERT LEVEL 5 PEOPLE THIS IS NOT A DRILL
Greigor The Fellhand
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DEFPEE 5
Joe Shlabotnik
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"This bill is a dump"
Thaedolus
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Aaahaha that angry White House staff account called it.
ArkhamFantasy
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I knew there had to be some kind of catch lol
balladofwindfishes
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The president doesn't have line item veto powers, so whatever he wants to say about the bill doesn't matter
But it won't stop the comments from being funny
But it won't stop the comments from being funny
Finale Fireworker
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Another one for the "I was only kidding" pile.
BobTheFork
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I love that the GOP feels most jokes are told while angrily screaming at someone.
ArkhamFantasy
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My body was hacked.
BoogieWoogie
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This is going to be fun watching his fall, minus the horror that comes with it.
RumbleHumble
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FAIR AND BALANCED!
Schucky Ducky
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Trumps favorite poll!
RustyNails
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All kidding aside, I fully believe that Obama would have started talk of impeachment if he had done any of this, especially the last one. Conservatives had their panties twisted so many times because of Obama's seemingly slights to the White House.
I forgot where I read this, but despite it being named after Hastert, it is a House tradition that far pre-dates Hastert's speakership iirc and various GOP speakers have not necessarily 'violated' the rule more often than any other speakers, Dem or pre-Hastert GOP. It strengthens the party and vests power into the Speaker position.
I could be wrong. I'll do some reading, see what I find.
Abinash117
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I think I now know why it he waited this long.
Trump is going to unveil a legal immigration bill today. He wanted something to block out the sanction bill news and look like he is doing something.
https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/892762288909942785
https://twitter.com/jpiacenza/status/892760890872868869
Gallup Abortion breakdown
Ariel Edwards-Levy (@aedwardslevy)
Also in latest Pollster: a May HuffPost/YouGov poll found relatively few Dems support abortion litmus test https://t.co/m0IMdJMagJ
https://twitter.com/jpiacenza/status/892760890872868869
Joanna Piacenza (@jpiacenza)
Republicans more likely to say white people (42%) face discrimination than they are to say black people (27%) do.
https://t.co/OlbEXZC5ik
Gallup Abortion breakdown
Joe Shlabotnik
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lol. They mad.
That Republican chart is laughable. They admit that every group experiences discrimination, but apparently black people experience it far less than everyone else?
Aren't there more hate crimes reported against black folks every year than every other group combined? Fuck out of here with that garbage.
RastaMentality
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lmfaooo
BoogieWoogie
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Putin's lawyers put in work with this one!
Also, I didn't realize this bill had a part in it that limited Presidential powers. Good shit.
Finale Fireworker
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What do you expect? DJT only knows like fourteen people.
So, is it normal for the President to sign official letters he clearly didn't actually write? This feels like it should have Sessions name on it.
Likely yes, that's what staffers are for.
But normally you have a President who's not functionally illiterate and making it obvious.
Dominican Power
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The staff that maintains it would disagree with you.
Did they send out two different statements? This other one is similar, but also includes one paragraph that was clearly contributed by the signee
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/892766970449465344/photo/1
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/892766970449465344/photo/1
Dubbedinenglish
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Rick Perry has even less credentials for the DHS than the DoE
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