I mean, I'll only have to wait until you vote actually.
Also, you are a Yes unless they are short of 50 with you. Which is to say your gonna bail hard if this thing fails anyway.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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I mean, I'll only have to wait until you vote actually.
Also, you are a Yes unless they are short of 50 with you. Which is to say your gonna bail hard if this thing fails anyway.
balladofwindfishes
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"I'm voting yes, but please don't call my phones"
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is the dumbest thing I've seen all day, and I read that Scaramucci interview.
Futurevoid
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She's a yes unless someone sinks the bill before her.
Profiles in courage, indeed.
Profiles in courage, indeed.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
The real sad news is that this health care debacle is overshadowing the fact that Hulu got the rights to all Family Matters episodes and will be putting them up in late September. Now that's something the country can unite around.
Autodidact
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Republicans crash the market and say, "Did I do that?"
There's a lot of data out there to the contrary.
It still needs a lot more research, but it isn't a novel concept.
So you just dunked on yourself?
Spoiled Milk
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the poison pill is the fact that it doesn't defund planned parenthood or abortion-providing insurance plans.
Ether_Snake
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They are really trying to make this as long as possible so that eventually they all just vote yes so they can stop talking about it.
Sure, but it has to be more comprehensive. Financial regulation and anti-trust laws need severe work.
Poodlestrike
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Spoiled Milk
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balladofwindfishes
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Which is exactly what the Democrats are adding to their platform for 2018
That's probably where it's at, yea. Probably low/mids 40s
Futurevoid
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The vote is expected between 2-3am.
No, I'm not kidding.
Governance! Transparency!
Poodlestrike
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These people are like a bajillion years old.
I'm 25 (almost) and I make pretty shitty decisions at 2 in the morning.
Futurevoid
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From Paul McLeod:
Autodidact
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I got images of the gang from Scooby Doo.
broz0rs
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That's what I feel is all about as well. Our country would probably be in a better place if ACA was called Romneycare. It's just so sad and pathetic.
Now the current strategy with McConnell telling fellow GOP Senators that Ryan won't rubber stamp skinny repeal in the House and will die there is just pure fuckery.
Feckless Cruz is with them? They flipped.
May as well get drunk too.
balladofwindfishes
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Did anyone check if his fingers were crossed behind his back?
Bernie writes "Skinny Repeal" on the top of his single-payer amendment and switches it with McConnell's amendment
Futurevoid
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Welp. Again from McLeod.
I had it at about 90/10 for this to pass.
It'll go to conference and pass as-is.
PopcornMegaphone
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If the bill goes to conference, does Ryan still have the option to bring the bill up for a vote or does that option die?
Which would be truly a huge huge disaster. I can see it though.
*goes to "conference"*
*cant agree on changes*
"An attempt was made!"
balladofwindfishes
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He can do whatever he wants. But it doesn't appear to have the votes in the house, as-is.
I have a feeling we're looking at this thing continuing on into the autumn.
I hope your right.
Freedom Caucus will cave. They are all up for reelection next year(the house). They would rather run on the platform of "Repealing" than not doing anything.
that's what encourages me, Meadows will save us even if Ryan won't.
They still need to produce a Reconciliation-compliant Skinny Repeal.
balladofwindfishes
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Well, on two separate occasions the HFC has said they are nos on this and it's enough to kill it. They don't want to cover abortions/planned parenthood. That's pretty obvious, as it's always been their stance on anything. Unless this blocks abortion funding they're not voting on it. I mean, people can not believe them, but abortion funding is a line the HFC doesn't cross, so they seem to actually mean it.
So with that stuff out of the way, they can't hammer out a bill everyone agrees on in 3 days (they haven't been able to do so in 6 months), so this'll wait until after recess (which starts Monday). But after recess they have to make sure the world economy doesn't explode, so it'll still be a little after that.
This bill is in a really weird place. Normally, a bill moving along like this would mean it's well on its way to passing. Except every single step along the way the bill is hard rebooted and every person who touches this ends up pushing it off to some other group to handle. It's never actually had any real progress other than moving through the system. Here we are at the last steps for a normal bill, and no actual bill exists. That's not a particularly good place for a bill to be, despite technically being at the last stage before the president.
Nobody wants to pass this. Nobody wants to kill it. So it just chugs along awkwardly floating around chambers, as we've seen. After 6 months they have nothing but a hollow bill that doesn't even qualify as a repeal and doesn't do anything but explode the healthcare industry, while they take the full blame.
They'll get hit much harder on abortion funding than not repealing Obamacare. They won't cave. Never have this entire process when it came to abortion funding. Removing it was a non-starter for them.
Happy isn't exactly the correct term. They're trying to find out how to shift the blame.
Aaron Strife
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They don't care if they sink the economy as long as they don't catch the blame for it.
Hey fucking idiots, your party controls both houses of Congress and the presidency. If one of you goes down the whole ship is going with it.
I almost want skinny repeal to pass. Almost. It's the option that maintains the most of the Obamacare framework. And the GOP would own it.
I have zero confidence. Zero that when the house enters the picture we won't get an even worse bill than the AHCA. They're nuts in the HFC.
I have zero confidence. Zero that when the house enters the picture we won't get an even worse bill than the AHCA. They're nuts in the HFC.
ShadowSwordmaster
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The fact they are trying to shift the blame and not just kill it speaks volumes on this stuff.
GoldenEye 007
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Skinny basically destroys ACA. The market would implode pretty much overnight. I actually feel like the CBO estimation is a bit too conservative.
balladofwindfishes
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So then a worse bill than the AHCA passes committee and the CBO score comes out and it's 50 million without insurance and rates increasing 400% and then we're right back to square 1 in the senate.
What was the last major bill to go to conference, ACA?
Which is why I'm on almost. The cost is ultimately too high. I just want that party to actual take on the responsibility the should have for consistently fucking over our economy. It annoys me to no end that they're trusted more than Democrats when it comes to the economy.
Which is why I'm on almost. The cost is ultimately too high. I just want that party to actual take on the responsibility the should have for consistently fucking over our economy. It annoys me to no end that they're trusted more than Democrats when it comes to the economy.
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