Bam Bam Baklava
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It was worded very clearly.
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It was worded very clearly.
Lol. Worried that some people will be better off under their shitty states' rights plan overrides his desire to make other people worse off.
Fenderputty
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Mr. Whittes liked the NYT piece better lol
https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/909918869069983745
BoogieWoogie
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Manafort's daughter's texts eluded to the fact that Manafort was always going to visit Trump, "plotting something"
He boomed both stories.
SatelliteOfLove
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More hearings!
More raids!
More grand juries!
More prosecutors!
More subpoenas!
MORE!
I keep batting about in my head that the GOP's biggest donors (Koch Bros types) are vehemently 100% about tax cuts and small government damn the torpedos.
Thing is, especially with senators with two brain cells to rub together (not Cruz types) know the basic jist of the situation and have realized they've rhetoricked themselves into a corner.
Now with the Right descending into civil war, a Watergate-on-Steroids bubbling up within the party, and the inevitable realization that the government, the economy, the public opinion, and the state of health care isn't where it was in 1993. Far from it. Their dogma becomes a fight with the inevitable; you can hear it when they get off the soundbites. They KNOW it.
But they have paymasters. Paymasters that can keep them from being primaried by some yahoo the Trumpanzee shits out and flings at them. So they...play, in my guesstimate, at R&R. Most don't really want what will come of the country from these god-forsaken, misbegotten screeds, but they go thru the motions it for appearences. Different leaders. Different problems. Different group of 3 senators to break and vote "no" every time (Collins+Murkowski+X). That one they let played out early had a whip count that ammounted to 5 confirmed "Yes"s. Kick the can down the road, don't actually put heads together with Dems to fix anything, await the inevitable, huge low-tax reform is a pipe dream now, and will be.
At least...that's my theory. The problem with this is so few wanna stick their heads up out to put a "no" on the board against this, or rather, then be a "yes" for all the others (hi, Heller!). It's a shaky "hey, this is how it's been playing out" not a "this is guarenteed how it'll always play out". I don't know if this shitshow will pass, or what the House will do with it, or what have you, but I don't think it's complete incompetance causing this to fail, it's alot of impotence in the face of too many people trained in the Party of No obstructionism and too few who know better having no political cover to stop the madness and govern with some level of sense.
More raids!
More grand juries!
More prosecutors!
More subpoenas!
MORE!
I keep batting about in my head that the GOP's biggest donors (Koch Bros types) are vehemently 100% about tax cuts and small government damn the torpedos.
Thing is, especially with senators with two brain cells to rub together (not Cruz types) know the basic jist of the situation and have realized they've rhetoricked themselves into a corner.
Now with the Right descending into civil war, a Watergate-on-Steroids bubbling up within the party, and the inevitable realization that the government, the economy, the public opinion, and the state of health care isn't where it was in 1993. Far from it. Their dogma becomes a fight with the inevitable; you can hear it when they get off the soundbites. They KNOW it.
But they have paymasters. Paymasters that can keep them from being primaried by some yahoo the Trumpanzee shits out and flings at them. So they...play, in my guesstimate, at R&R. Most don't really want what will come of the country from these god-forsaken, misbegotten screeds, but they go thru the motions it for appearences. Different leaders. Different problems. Different group of 3 senators to break and vote "no" every time (Collins+Murkowski+X). That one they let played out early had a whip count that ammounted to 5 confirmed "Yes"s. Kick the can down the road, don't actually put heads together with Dems to fix anything, await the inevitable, huge low-tax reform is a pipe dream now, and will be.
At least...that's my theory. The problem with this is so few wanna stick their heads up out to put a "no" on the board against this, or rather, then be a "yes" for all the others (hi, Heller!). It's a shaky "hey, this is how it's been playing out" not a "this is guarenteed how it'll always play out". I don't know if this shitshow will pass, or what the House will do with it, or what have you, but I don't think it's complete incompetance causing this to fail, it's alot of impotence in the face of too many people trained in the Party of No obstructionism and too few who know better having no political cover to stop the madness and govern with some level of sense.
Fenderputty
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He boomed that CNN one two minutes after lol. Speed up Mr. Whittes.
Though I still maintain blowing up a foam bottle is better than the CNN boom heh
BoboBrazil
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Hopefully they are wiretapping Trump too.
Prof. Bathtub
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How can he be vindicated? He barely even heard of the guy, Paul was never in the same room with him, was only around for a short time, didn't help much with the campaign.
If Paul wanted to be defended, he should have thought about marrying into the family or being more of a conspiracy theorist.
If Paul wanted to be defended, he should have thought about marrying into the family or being more of a conspiracy theorist.
For Treasurer not U.S Senate. I voted for the Democrat in the latter. Jungle primary can give you R vs R setup. He was the incumbent anyway and won easily two years ago. Statewide I go D over R in all cases except R vs R where I vote for the least worse.
Fenderputty
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Hopefully they weren't since you know, we said we weren't. Hopefully, wiretapping Manafort is enough.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think those lawyers skipped ethics class.
Ethics is realllly fucking easy btw. There is a state exam IIRC used in a lot of states and I blew it away without even studying for it.
Ethics is realllly fucking easy btw. There is a state exam IIRC used in a lot of states and I blew it away without even studying for it.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Gross.
Dubbedinenglish
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Look at all those happy people, and look how excited Ben is.
balladofwindfishes
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Has Ben Carson even done anything at all?
balladofwindfishes
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hehe, knockoff MAGA stuff is in Poundland
I'm... not really sure where the market is for Trump stuff in the UK, but if you're in the market for a MAGA hat, Crab, you know where to look.
I'm... not really sure where the market is for Trump stuff in the UK, but if you're in the market for a MAGA hat, Crab, you know where to look.
Officerrob
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That's a fucking bomb
Quietly killing HUD.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
He got stuck in an elevator
Mobius and pet octopus
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How did they ever figure out how to clone the MAGA hat.
balladofwindfishes
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I like the question mark on the big eraser or whatever it is, near the bottom right
"Make America great again?"
No
Mobius and pet octopus
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That's an eraser? Looks big enough to be a brick or stepping stone, or maybe those hats are super small. But yeah. MAGA? No thanks.
If they wiretapped Manafort and they got something juicy from Trump then that might be all they need... without tapping Trump directly
5 days before the clock runs out
More "nothing is going to happen"! 😒
StopMakingSense
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I think Stinkles' guy got confused on which Monday.
BlastProcessing
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balladofwindfishes
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Thought maybe it was one of these
Because Trump is erasing Obama's mistakes or something
I don't really know what it is. It looks kind of soft, not sure it'd be a stepping stone.
Or, they wiretapped Manafort, he said something which gave them probable cause for a wiretap of Trump. More likely than "Trump happened to say something that the tap caught", I think.
Edit: That "eraser" thing could be a foam brick, referencing the Border Wall?
Mark Andrew
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Team #MAGA will declare vindication even as Manafort is indicted lol
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
This is my headcanon.
What if it's the scissors that are psychic and the barber just had trouble deciphering the words the clippings fall into
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-secret-service.html
That's what someone planning to flee the country would do.
jk
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RustyNails
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Still unbelievable that this guy was the campaign chairman.
EXTREME VETTING
EXTREME VETTING
aspiegamer
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If anyone wants to claim Trump was right that Obama wanted to monitor Trump Tower, ask him why they feel vindicated by the fact that his former campaign chairman was under criminal investigation during and after the campaign.
Literally just mentioned this instant on CNN. The correct answer is that there was either 1) zero vetting, or 2) was given orders to hire him from "elsewhere."
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
What if the campaign actually had great vetting, it's just that they were vetting to ensure connections to Russia? [thinking emoji]
He's basically a white nationalist, so yeah, he's bad.
Spoiled Milk
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This depends on what you mean by bad, which is an unspecific and ambiguous metric. Bill was the unholy nexus of the moral outrage machine for over a decade, a hypocritical homonculus ignorant in basic logic or philosophical consistency. He oozed the turgid pomp only a Christian is capable of. From the most transparent dog-whistles impugning minorities to his willful ignorance of inconvenient truths about his side of the political aisle, it's fair to say that Bill was like an endless furnace for the very worst parts of American conservatism. But the way the O'Reilly Factor infuriates the most is when it found itself in a crusade against some unholy slight against America. Bill saw himself as a moral steward of political character and urged every one of his viewers to hold everyone else by the same inconsistent and impossible standards. And what a load of imbecilic absurdity it was, because Bill O'Reilly is the same worthless trash who dragged his wife down the stairs by her neck, emotionally damaging his children, and sexually harrassing any woman who came within his general vicinity. From the bottom of my own wretched heart, I sincerely hope that someday he dies a miserable, painful death, my graphic fantasies of which I'll never be able to pen here on NeoGAF because it would surely get me banned.
Tucker Carlson, on the other hand, is probably a genius. Weasely and meticulous, he came out of nowhere and became a media sensation, both on Fox News as a pundit and by (secretly) starting one of the most popular right wing rags I can think of (The Daily Caller). This nogoodnik is a communication prodigy. He can spin anything you can think of. Anything. He's a master at the coy JAQ-off. He spins logical sophistry so deftly that the average barely-thinking everyman will fall into his rhetorical traps. The best part is that he definitely doesn't believe half of what he's saying. But he's good at whatever he does and he knows it. Tucker is the new Imperial Messenger, except Tom Friedman is definitely the dumbest person to ever enter journalism.
So actually it doesn't depend on your definition of bad, Bill was definitely worse. Bill was a true believer and was the shogun of the culture wars (maybe Rush is the daimyo or emperor or whatever). Tucker is just looking to get paid.
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