I just want to know if you realize you're suggesting Harris and Gillibrand, as women, will do better to appeal to the female electorate strictly because they were not victims of their husbands actions.
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VendettaRed07
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The women at the march didnt vote for him either.
Mobius and pet octopus
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That is a really big blanket statement to make. I remember reports of some women who did vote for Trump at the rallies.
https://www.axios.com/why-trump-hopes-the-new-trump-sticks-2483311761.html
Let's see how long this lasts.
Dubbedinenglish
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Until he realizes the praise is fake either way. He starts that reinforcement that GOP policies are bad those claws will come out fast.
If he goes full late-stage Governator Arnold by the end of this, what a weird thing. Smacking on his desk like Arnold demanding a climate deal.
(He won't, he changes every week, but still, weird twists.)
VendettaRed07
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Last thing I'll say about this but not everyone was willing to frame it that way and I just don't believe that's how many people see it.
My mom really struggled to vote for her for that reason. Had she not had me around to convince her why she needed to vote given the opponent maybe she doesn't vote at all. I think there were a lot of people who thought like that.
Right. Sometimes the electorate is just irredeemable, like how the Japanese keep voting for the liberal democrats despite them having no new answers to fix the recession of the last 25 years, or how Turks seem to crave dictatorship and will not be dissuaded from it.
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VendettaRed07
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I'm not talking about the women who voted for Trump. They have zero excuses and I'm not absolving them from anything. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. My assumption was the majority of the turnout of people who went to the march didn't vote for him either.
They are not morally equivalent at all. But it was just another factor in what was made to be a shitty election that made a lot of people not want to go out to vote at all. It wasn't the only issue but I think it was a stumbling block in translating the women who ran out to oppose trump and his behavior and rhetoric into votes
My apologies if I upset anyone. I'll just drop it now.
BlastProcessing
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Where is that quote from? It drives me batty when people just post pictures of quotes without sourcing them.
Pigeon, have you actually seen the passage of the book you are railing against, in context, or are you just falling for a by-the-book press manipulation of a DC tell all to generate outrage and clicks?
IggyChooChoo
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I'm from the South, and therefore have no qualms about criticizing the electorate. A lot of shitting on Hillary for the election's outcome feels like a variation of just world fallacy.
BlastProcessing
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Hey, person close to Republican leadership, can we talk? I think it's really cool that you are despairing and all and I am hesitant to say anything that would help you out, but the fact that you thought that Trump held all of the cards here is your whole fucking problem.
You need to wrap you head abound the fact that, as dysfunctional and impotent as Trump is, the GOP Congress is worse.
2016 was close enough that Clinton bears some of the blame, but this doesn't excuse the fact that a lot of voters are soft-willed enough to take a look at a screaming racist, sexist caricature and think "yeah, what have we got to lose?"
There's a sense of learned helplessness among the current crop of GOP, most of whom weren't in leadership positions the last time the party had a trifecta in 2006. Governing simply isn't in their wheelhouse yet.
Mark Andrew
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Havent watched Maher in a while but apparently Ken Bone was on last night
excelsiorlef
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VendettaRed07
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Jesus
MetalGearZed
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Just saw that he was too. Still don't regret not watching RT anymore.
Fucking Ken Bone thing was so fucking stupid.
"Ha ha, look at this guy with the red sweater and mustache at the presidential debate! Doesn't he look kinda funny!? Let's fucking pay attention to him for weeks instead of heeding Clinton's warnings that Trump is a Russian puppet that's trying to uproot our democracy! Isn't this undecided voter's sweater so red!? So funny!"
metalslimer
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The guy who hadn't decided who he was voting for even after pussy gate? That's just a reminder of how completely trash our media is.
How about Hillary Clinton is a fucking adult who is writing a memoir and has every right to say what the fuck she thinks.
What's gross is this constant need to police what she says, does and even believes.
Like Jesus. She showed solidarity and support for the woman's march as it happened. But people want to be mad at her for what she writes in a book 8 months later? As if that changes anything? Come on.
What's gross is this constant need to police what she says, does and even believes.
Like Jesus. She showed solidarity and support for the woman's march as it happened. But people want to be mad at her for what she writes in a book 8 months later? As if that changes anything? Come on.
Coriolanus
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The man can't be bothered to think if it is fake. Advantages of dealing with a narcissist and all.
Bonen no Max'd
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when you're a paid adviser to Hillary and have held important positions in the DNC and other parts of the Dem apparatus
Wasn't Russia's goal two-fold?
- Get someone they can use in office (Trump)
- Prevent Hillary to even be a threat to this
What's this advisor's view on the Russian attack attempts on Marco Rubio?
Bonen no Max'd
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Does he really? That's sad lol
In that case, please proceed. The Tulsi Gabbard line as Twitter hot take Mendoza line. I like it
Mobius and pet octopus
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It was a fine interview.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Apparently, Pod Save America's next episode will have Hillary Clinton on. I bet you that someone will post this episode in the OT.
More willing to bet someone posts an article with a soundbyte.
Russia attacking from both ends of the horseshoe (the isolationist/xenophobic/racist/anti-science/etc.) has been going on forever.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Yep.
People keep pointing out that The Intercept keeps vomiting awful shit out, regardless of writer, to point out that "random intercept writers w/ bad takes" as a takeaway is wrong. The writing isn't random, it's deliberate.
MetalGearZed
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So apparently Eric Bolling's 19 yo son died last night. yikes. RIP
excelsiorlef
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When some can use it to continue the DNC is Sanders' enemy... of course.
She's an elected official with actual power and a potential presidential candidate but ok.
Also she has 158k followers with a following count of 3198. He has 165k on a following count of 135k
And we usually bitch mostly about Greenwald himself and The Intercept as an entity
Dude is an idiot and wrong but beyond that what importance is he?
whyamihere
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I don't really give a shit about the Intercept's various writers, I give a shit about the man with the Pulitzer who gives the idiotic marching orders. Didn't Lee Fang and Zaid Jilani both used to work for the Center for American Progress and the antichrist herself ffs? The whole site is just sad fishing for clicks 
excelsiorlef
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BoboBrazil
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Waiting for that Monday stinkles bomb dropping. I need it now.
SatelliteOfLove
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Which is why tact and accuracy are important since it is beyond clear and testified that Russia has not quit this attempted manipulation. We don't know how far they've went and panic is only helping it. Clumsy accusations like that is definately reckless.
whyamihere
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Sounds like Upton might run for Senate.
Good. Much rather have him than Kid Rock.
Good. Much rather have him than Kid Rock.
Russia's goal was not to get someone they can use in office. It was to cause chaos and weaken the US. That's why they didn't just dump everything into Trump. They also did things to drive the wedge in the Democratic party, and also to benefit Jill Stein.
This is an utterly bullshit story.
People don't like Trump because he's a Nazi. His ability to raise the debt ceiling is separate from that.
VendettaRed07
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But I thought Kate and Justin moved to Houston after the trade
Autodidact
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Shades of Lugar
Aaron Strife
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And that still counts as a retirement. Leaving his House seat open for a race that isn't very winnable.
whyamihere
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Agreed.
I also don't think that Kid Rock will run and I think that Stabenow's team is much more prepared for a person like Upton than Rock.
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