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PoliGAF General Election Thread of Conventions (Sarah Palin McCain VP Pick)
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PhoenixDark
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speculawyer said:This is still freaking me out . . . it looks like New Orleans could get pounded just as Bush takes the podium at the RNC. That is just bizarre.
Looks like Jamaica is chargin its laser
Karma Kramer
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Yeah I actually really enjoyed the Warner speech as well. The only dud speech was Pelosi.
The Chosen One
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lttp: this thread moves too quickly for me during the day.
Bill Clinton gave a FANTASTIC speech. He proved that he's still got it. I think Bill's competitive juices came out after Hilary's speech yesterday and knowing that Obama would be tomorrow. Plus Bubba loves proving the media wrong.
Both John Kerry and Biden delivered excellent speeches. Obviously not on the level of Bill's but both were excellent in their own right. Biden's speech started a little slow but he hit his stride mid-way through the speech and brought a lot of passion and energy into it.
The Obama Surprise was a great piece of theater but CNN's spoiler lessoned the impact a little bit for me.
I'd rank the speeches like this so far that I've seen:
Bill Clinton >> Michelle Obama >> Hilary >> Kerry >> Biden >>> All the Rest >>>> >>>>> >>>> Seballdsfasfdasf
Seballasdfasd is absolutely the worst speaker ever. She shouldn't be allowed to speak on TV ever again. If Obama picked her as a VP it would have been a nightmare.
Bill Clinton gave a FANTASTIC speech. He proved that he's still got it. I think Bill's competitive juices came out after Hilary's speech yesterday and knowing that Obama would be tomorrow. Plus Bubba loves proving the media wrong.
Both John Kerry and Biden delivered excellent speeches. Obviously not on the level of Bill's but both were excellent in their own right. Biden's speech started a little slow but he hit his stride mid-way through the speech and brought a lot of passion and energy into it.
The Obama Surprise was a great piece of theater but CNN's spoiler lessoned the impact a little bit for me.
I'd rank the speeches like this so far that I've seen:
Bill Clinton >> Michelle Obama >> Hilary >> Kerry >> Biden >>> All the Rest >>>> >>>>> >>>> Seballdsfasfdasf
Seballasdfasd is absolutely the worst speaker ever. She shouldn't be allowed to speak on TV ever again. If Obama picked her as a VP it would have been a nightmare.
Karma Kramer
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The Chosen One said:
Most truth I have heard in this thread. Can you imagine the media narrative.
polyh3dron
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Holy shit, someone in the crowd on MSNBC just had a mask on with THAT smiley face.. you guys know the one
:lol
:lol
Karma Kramer
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Oh that smiley? Wow haha
Does anyone have a screen-grab... plus video of the Chris Matthews ownage?
Does anyone have a screen-grab... plus video of the Chris Matthews ownage?
Karma Kramer
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Found the Matthews video... holy shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mynTeLWOYQs
There is seriously something internally happening at MSNBC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mynTeLWOYQs
There is seriously something internally happening at MSNBC.
polyh3dron
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lol Bryan Williams said "the intarwebs"
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http://www.demconvention.com/thursday-schedule/
Thursday, August 28 2008: Change You Can Believe In
Time Shown as local Denver, Colorado MST
3:00 PM 5:00 PM (LOCAL)
Live Performances (before gavel)
Yonder Mountain String Band Performance
Jeff Austin, Adam Aijala, Ben Kaufmann, Dave Johnston
Voter Registration Presentation
Remarks
The Honorable Luis Gutierrez
Member of the US House of Representatives, Illinois
David Plouffe
Obama Campaign Manager
Ray Rivera
Obama State Director, Colorado
Call to Order
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Permanent Chair, Democratic National Convention
Member and Speaker of the US House of Representatives, California
Invocation
Rabbi David Saperstein
Director, Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism Washington, DC
Presentation of Colors
Disabled American Veterans
Pledge of Allegiance
Shawn Johnson
US Olympic Gymnast
National Anthem
Jennifer Hudson
Academy award-winning singer and Broadway performer
Welcome
Elbra Wedgeworth
President/Chair, Denver Host Committee
Presentation of Resolutions
Democratic National Committee Vice-Chairs
Mark Brewer
The Honorable Linda Chavez-Thompson
The Honorable Mike Honda
The Honorable Lottie Shackelford
Susan Turnbull
Remarks
Honorable Bill Ritter, Jr.
Governor of Colorado
The Honorable Ed Perlmutter
Member of the US House of Representatives, Colorado
The Honorable John Salazar
Member of the US House of Representatives, Colorado
The Honorable Diana DeGette
Member of the US House of Representatives, Colorado
5:00 PM 6:00 PM (LOCAL)
Video & Remarks
The Honorable Howard Dean
Former Governor of Vermont
Chair of the Democratic Party
Video & Remarks: Tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King
The Honorable John Lewis
Member of the US House of Representatives, Georgia
Rev. Bernice King
Daughter of the late Dr. King
Martin Luther King III
Oldest son of the late Dr. King
Remarks
The Honorable Bill Richardson
Governor, New Mexico
Live Performances
will.i.am
Accompanied by John Legend (piano), Agape Choir, and band
Sheryl Crow
Singer/songwriter
Remarks
Ray Rivera
Obama State Director, Colorado
6:00 PM 7:00 PM (LOCAL)
Remarks
The Honorable Jan Schakowsky
Member of the US House of Representatives, Illinois
The Honorable Mark Udall
Member of the US House of Representatives, Colorado
The Honorable Tim Kaine
Governor of Virginia
Live Performance
Stevie Wonder
Remarks
The Honorable Al Gore
Former Vice President of the United States
7:00 PM - 8:00 PM (LOCAL)
Remarks
John Kuniholm
Wounded Iraq veteran
Live Performance
Michael McDonald
Singer/songwriter
Remarks
Susan Eisenhower
Granddaughter of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Retired Generals Tribute
Air Force Maj. Gen. J. Scott Gration (Ret)
Accompanied by additional generals
American Voices Program
Roy Gross
Monica Early
Wes Moore
Janet Lynn Monacco
Nate Flick
Teresa Asenap
Pamela Cash-Roper
Barney Smith
Remarks
The Honorable Dick Durbin
US Senator, Illinois
8:00 PM 9:00 PM (LOCAL)
Video/Remarks
SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
Benediction
Pastor Joel Hunter
Senior Pastor of Northland in Central Florida
Adjournment
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Permanent Chair, Democratic National Convention
I think while alot of MSNBC people do lean left they are not Olbermann level and Olbermann is really trying to push them to his levels.Karma Kramer said:
Theres just way too many MSNBC people at each others throats at this convention who dont even care if they go off on air.
mckmas8808
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PhoenixDark said:
Yo lately it's like you haven't said nothing wrong. :lol
I was just thinking about GA and NC. And Montana and North Dakota. Those 4 states and it's over. We all know 80% of black people will probably vote this time around.
I remember the Neilson stats you linked to eariler. PD you know as black people we are never into politics like that. Dudes are thinking about shooting ball, watching rap videos, and chilling.
Now you are telling me black people are watching the Democratic Convention in higher % numbers than any race in the country?!?!?! HOLY SHIT! McCain has another thing coming if black people vote in the same high percentages that they are watching the convention.
And you have to remember that it's not even labor day yet. The first debate hasn't even happened and black people are this excited? We will come out in record numbers. And if we do and if McCain picks Liberman......I'm calling DEM wins in VA, NC, and GA.
Yeah but the overall thing is Olbermann is trying to act like he runs the whole damn place. Matthews has attacked Olbermann on the air. Olbermann doesnt run MSNBC but the way he likes to put in comments etc I wouldn't doubt that Olbermann gets shown the door or alot of staff leavesreilo said:
GrotesqueBeauty
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That's the asshole I mentioned earlier, although I didn't watch long enough to see the Matthews aftermath. He deserved to be pushed on what he asserted, which was a steaming pile of horseshit. Calling the audience biased and "in the tank" was pretty ridiculous as well. How could someone have the balls to come off a patently absurd statement like he made then call the audience biased?Karma Kramer said:
edit: Olbermann trying to shut the entire conversation down is silly though. Better to let Chris Matthews back him into a corner and beat him with the hardball stick.
mckmas8808
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Arde5643 said:
Yep. And how on God's Earth is the democratic convention getting similar ratings as the Olympics?!
Wasn't the Olympics the highest rated program in US history? How is the Obama campaign getting ratings so high?
Karma Kramer
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laserbeam said:
I think MSNBC was extremely balanced during the primaries. However recently, because the media has been tougher on Obama rather then McCain, the more liberal pundits are getting tired of their colleagues regurgitating talking points that are what most would consider dishonest.
Brokaw is trying to balance it by being more pro McCain, but for the most part people now see MSNBC as a liberal media outlet.
Do I think it is the liberal form of Fox News? Absolutely not... because I personally believe that Olbermann and Matthews don't spew bullshit. They may have favorability, but they don't manipulate and misguide their viewing audience.
If a cable news network solely focused on the issues and remained objective... it would be viewed as liberal in my opinion. Just look at PBS.
mckmas8808
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laserbeam said:
Doesn't matter. Phelps came through everyday and the Democratic Convention is going toe to toe with the Olympics. Amazing feat which shows that the energy is still alive from the Primaries. This is not good news for the republicans.
GrotesqueBeauty said:
I don't know, I'm actually all for journalists cutting off tools who spew bullshit that surpasses a certain threshold. They shouldnt even get the time of day. I mean, how do you debate with these people? It's just idiocy, and I see no problem in a journalist deciding to shut them up and not waste the viewers time or insult their intelligence further.
mckmas8808 said:
I dont think thats a conclusion to come to. .This convention started with so much controversy on omg what are the clintons gonna do. If anything the Democrats were genius to put both clintons on 2 different nights.
People kept coming back to see what they would say. Lets see the ratings for the whole days of the convention not just Clinton speech times.
Slurpy said:
It is not Keith Olbermanns job to decide when another reporter should end their segement. Thats the issue. If Matthews wants to stop it it is his call and if he wants to bull shit with the guy that is his call too.
mckmas8808
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DeathNote said:
They are averaging 24 million viewers a day. The Olympics averaged 27 million a day. It's just amazing thinking about the fact that people are EQUALLY excited about the democratic party just as much as the freaking Olympics!!!
mckmas8808
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Hitokage said:
Okay and about 60 million voted democrat in 2004. So that's 1 in every 3 of those voters watching right now.
So to me that's great for being 2 and a half months out.
Karma Kramer
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mckmas8808
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sp0rsk said:
Actually I'm not sure. If it was that would be even better. There's probably what....at least 2 people living in every home?
50 million people watched last night?! :lol
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What's strange is that Mike Murphy is usually a fairly level-headed Republican. He's been on Meet the Press numerous times and he's been fairly pragmatic.
For some reason tonight he felt like playing the Evil Repug or maybe he was drunk. Clearly the crowd was getting to him. Proclaiming the by-standers were "in the tank" for Obama? NO SHIT! It's the Democratic Convention! What was he expecting?
As for the the rift at MSNBC, they're clearly going through an identity crises post-Tim Russert. Olberman brings in the ratings but he's clearly not fit to anchor their special coverages. A year or so ago when he first started anchoring the special coverages he was more restrained with his personal views and editorializing, but nowadays he doesn't even try. It's basically just a special edition of Countdown.
Chris Matthews editorializes and likes the sound of us own voice too but he's a little more introspective and less predictable. He's not afraid to rip into an Obama supporter if necessary either (ie. When Matthews ripped into the Obama supporter who couldn't name a single legislative accomplishment in the primary).
To be honest I think Joe Scarbs and Chris Matthews would make a better anchor team for their special coverage. For all the flack Scarbs gets, he knows how to be neutral when necessary. He can also give the Republican viewpoint without spouting BS like Pat Buchanan. It just gets bad when the two of them are in the same room.
I really think giving Rachael Maddow her own show was a bad idea at this point. Liberals love her but MSNBC needs more balance to afternoon/evening programming. I know, I know a conservative as a 3 hour show on the morning, but let's be honest, a conservative agenda isn't being pushed for 3 hours straight. It's hodge-podge of stuff with the slant usually determined by what guests they have. I'd say Morning Joe is more of a centrist show overall and swings right or left depending on the day. The same can't be said about the afternoon/evening programming, it almost always swings left. Now they're adding Rachael Maddow?!
I'm not a big fan of the echo chamber. I like to hear differing opinions. As long as they're based on sound reasoning and not overt partisan talking points and slogans. Joe Scarbs is now literally the last conservative host on MSNBC. Colmes says hi.
For some reason tonight he felt like playing the Evil Repug or maybe he was drunk. Clearly the crowd was getting to him. Proclaiming the by-standers were "in the tank" for Obama? NO SHIT! It's the Democratic Convention! What was he expecting?
As for the the rift at MSNBC, they're clearly going through an identity crises post-Tim Russert. Olberman brings in the ratings but he's clearly not fit to anchor their special coverages. A year or so ago when he first started anchoring the special coverages he was more restrained with his personal views and editorializing, but nowadays he doesn't even try. It's basically just a special edition of Countdown.
Chris Matthews editorializes and likes the sound of us own voice too but he's a little more introspective and less predictable. He's not afraid to rip into an Obama supporter if necessary either (ie. When Matthews ripped into the Obama supporter who couldn't name a single legislative accomplishment in the primary).
To be honest I think Joe Scarbs and Chris Matthews would make a better anchor team for their special coverage. For all the flack Scarbs gets, he knows how to be neutral when necessary. He can also give the Republican viewpoint without spouting BS like Pat Buchanan. It just gets bad when the two of them are in the same room.
I really think giving Rachael Maddow her own show was a bad idea at this point. Liberals love her but MSNBC needs more balance to afternoon/evening programming. I know, I know a conservative as a 3 hour show on the morning, but let's be honest, a conservative agenda isn't being pushed for 3 hours straight. It's hodge-podge of stuff with the slant usually determined by what guests they have. I'd say Morning Joe is more of a centrist show overall and swings right or left depending on the day. The same can't be said about the afternoon/evening programming, it almost always swings left. Now they're adding Rachael Maddow?!
I'm not a big fan of the echo chamber. I like to hear differing opinions. As long as they're based on sound reasoning and not overt partisan talking points and slogans. Joe Scarbs is now literally the last conservative host on MSNBC. Colmes says hi.
speculawyer
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I wish Stevie would play "Higher Ground" . . . I guess it could be viewed as too controversial.
The Chosen One
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Morning Joe is hilarious right now. Both Pat Buchanan and Scarbs are literally handing the Dems talking points for how to destroy the Republicans. :lol
As I said, Morning Joe swings left or right depending on the day.
As I said, Morning Joe swings left or right depending on the day.
Smiles and Cries
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why I keep thinking the speech is on Friday?Kildace said:
what time tonight?
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