Chiggs
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Stoney Mason said:So has John Kerry. That didn't get him elected either.
He would have if the angsty youth had bothered to show up and vote.
Stoney Mason said:So has John Kerry. That didn't get him elected either.
I'll respond to this rationally:minus_273 said:mccain has physically gone to the gates of hell for his country. what has obama done?
laserbeam said:So how is it people are comfortable with the fact that Mccain has said he wouldn't invade Pakistan to get Osama and would ask them for permission when he says indeed he would follow him to the Gates of Hell. Does Bin Laden plan to leave Pakistan and go to Hell and Mccain will catch him there?
polyh3dron said:Jesse Jackson wasn't always this hard to understand when he spoke was he?
Karma Kramer said:Do you disagree?
Lazy vs Crazy said:Ted Kennedy votes the right way pretty much every time. He has never been in the pockets of lobbyists.
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION JOHN MCCAIN'S MILITARY SERVICEElfforkusu said:I'll respond to this rationally:
McCain serving as a soldier and yes, a POW, means that his loyalty to the USA is unquestionable. But it doesn't mean his decisions or his policies are defacto the right ones and should never be questioned. Going through hell doesn't make you infallible, it makes you unlucky, and a "hero".
Obama isn't questioning McCain's allegiance, or insulting any part of him that "POW" is a relevant response to. He's questioning his policy, and his judgment in that respect.
Or, in short, being a POW is not relevant experience for this job. It looks good on the resume though.
McCain has been pandering to the base for the past 2 years. You're late to the party.UltimaKilo said:A case McCain has to disprove to the base next week. All this talk about party unity of the dems, and no talk of the friction between the Bush people, evangelicals, the far right, and John McCain. Which is why you will see McCain pander to the base next week.
Spectral Glider said:So here's what I've learned so far, democrats loved the speech, republicans hated it. Shocking developments.
RubxQub said:Tell me where the fuck Barack said that we would invade Pakistan in some hopes of finding and killing Osama bin Laden?
What the fuck are you talking about?
RubxQub said:Tell me where the fuck Barack said that we would invade Pakistan in some hopes of finding and killing Osama bin Laden?
What the fuck are you talking about?
laserbeam said:Considering the current situation in Pakistan and the volatility of any such action I dont think I could support it. I wanna see Osama drawn and quartered but military Action in a Country like Pakistan could be disasterous
Lazy vs Crazy said:Ted Kennedy votes the right way pretty much every time.
minus_273 said:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3434573&page=1
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In a strikingly bold speech about terrorism Wednesday, Democratic presidential candidate Illinois Sen. Barack Obama called not only for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but a redeployment of troops into Afghanistan and even Pakistan with or without the permission of Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf."
emphasis mine.
polyh3dron said:(That's what they said to Wes Clark when he said precisely the same thing you did, a FUCKING GENERAL)
Actually no, I've never had that much difficulty trying to make out what he said.DarienA said:Joke right?
Fatalah said:I turned to the Colmes radio show, which is on a liberal radio station, and I think the right-wing has sent a legion of callers to call in bashing Obama.
That's fine and good, really.Chiggs said:Chappaquiddick is enough for me to dislike him.
Illuminati said:Holy shit it is just a political speech for a presidential candidate, it is just talk of promises and nothing else. It has been done every single election after George Washington. It's not like a speech given during some famous world changing event (like the moon landing, the US entering World War II, the taring down of the Berlin wall, or 9/11) or speech given by someone held in hi-esteem by people right before they retire from what they love doing or die. Man I swear so overblown on here :lol
Lazy vs Crazy said:McCain votes for bad things and nearly destroyed the American economy at the behest of a lobbyist.
Ted Kennedy votes the right way pretty much every time. He has never been in the pockets of lobbyists.
minus_273 said:mccain has physically gone to the gates of hell for his country. what has obama done?
polyh3dron said:Actually no, I've never had that much difficulty trying to make out what he said.
They don't realize that we don't listen to Allan Colmes because he's the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters. :lolFatalah said:I turned to the Colmes radio show, which is on a liberal radio station, and I think the right-wing has sent a legion of callers to call in bashing Obama.
Absolutely right. We have 2 months. So how do we do it? I am in NYC, hardly a battleground.Karma Kramer said:Its up the youth to win this election...
If we don't turn out in this election... then I fucking hate the youth of today.
JayDubya said:lulz
A bit like the recently departed.omg rite said:I like how JayDubya just keeps replying to things without making a point, then ignores when people call him out.
I put that guy on ignore right after he said Michael Vick should be able to kill as many dogs as he wants.omg rite said:I like how JayDubya just keeps replying to things without making a point, then ignores when people call him out.
Karma Kramer said:Its up the youth to win this election...
If we don't turn out in this election... then I fucking hate the youth of today.
TheKingsCrown said:Absolutely right. We have 2 months. So how do we do it? I am in NYC, hardly a battleground.
thefro said:Wow, the press pics are turning out awesome
Bunch more from icebergslim at DailyKos here http://thisweekwithbarackobama.blogspot.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-acceptance-speech-and.html
omg rite said:I like how JayDubya just keeps replying to things without making a point, then ignores when people call him out.
.Karma Kramer said:...mods/admin sticky a thread giving details on deadlines for registration and how to register.
Sure most of GAF knows how to do it... but it couldn't hurt.
I'm sure that would go over well with the rest of the international community, much like Iraq.Door2Dawn said:Obama has said if we have actional intelligence of a high ranking terrorist,and pakistan chooses not to act,we should strike.
besada said:I certainly wouldn't support a full-scale invasion, but an insertion of Special Forces or some Predator drones? Sure. Pakistan's not going to do shit at that level of interference.
UltimaKilo said:Something a professor told me a long time ago:
"Democrats always have the spectacles, protests, and flashiness. The Republicans are usually quiet and come out on election day."
Elfforkusu said:I'll respond to this rationally:
McCain serving as a soldier and yes, a POW, means that his loyalty to the USA is unquestionable. But it doesn't mean his decisions or his policies are defacto the right ones and should never be questioned. Going through hell doesn't make you infallible, it makes you unlucky, and a "hero".
Obama isn't questioning McCain's allegiance, or insulting any part of him that "POW" is a relevant response to. He's questioning his policy, and his judgment in that respect.
Or, in short, being a POW is not relevant experience for this job. It looks good on the resume though.