That is true. However just because mobile GPUs seem to be catching up with raw computation performance does not mean they are anywhere close to all the other things bigger GPUs can do. All of that is important if they want to create a similar experience.
PowerVR Series6 GPUs announced: 20x more powerful, 5x more efficient, DX11.1
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And to complete the projected comparisons .. Nvidia expects Wayne (Kal-el successor) to be 10 times faster than Tegra2 or 3-4 times faster than Kal-El which is already slower than SGX543MP2.
Again, if all units remain same and expected performance is increased by those projected magnitudes then PowerVR6 >> Mali658 >>> Wayne.
Again, if all units remain same and expected performance is increased by those projected magnitudes then PowerVR6 >> Mali658 >>> Wayne.
iceatcs
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I know someone if lucky get an internship placement for Imagination for this summer, I might get in touch with him if he allow to tell. It won't be any good proof just word to word I assume.
Apple chose wisely.
Juniper was 1TFlop in a die size 4 times smaller than the 285 ..
Earliest desktop GPU to reach the TFlop mark was the RV770 (4850 & 4870) both of which were small dies, less than half size of 285 but on 55nm.
That's what I get for reading only the list of Nvidia GPUs at Wikipedia. And I own a 4850, for shame!
(goes to show how memory bandwidth can rain on one's parade)
Why? Third parties aren't going to exploit the power anyways. And by then, tablets using this will probably be sub-200 (if the Asus ICS, tegra 3 for 250 dollars) is any direction of where we're headed. 2013 would have been an even bigger buzz saw to launch against than now.
east of eastside
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Dreamcast and Naomi used PowerVR2..
Put this announcement together with Samsung's (whose an IMGTEC license) smart TV which is supposed to feature upgrade slots to give annual processing and graphic upgrades to the TV and this does have a bearing on consoles. At some point Smart TV performance and console performance will cross.
Upgrade module based in Samsung SoC tech.
Put this announcement together with Samsung's (whose an IMGTEC license) smart TV which is supposed to feature upgrade slots to give annual processing and graphic upgrades to the TV and this does have a bearing on consoles. At some point Smart TV performance and console performance will cross.
Upgrade module based in Samsung SoC tech.
Pimpbaa
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I'd say they will use this on whatever iPad will have a upgraded higher resolution screen.
uh. they can cross right now. but they wont because there is no need. if you ever actually tried those smart tvs, you would know how sluggish it is. there is nothing stopping them putting high performance pc inside, it just doesnt make any sense at all.
Error Macro
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POWER VR RULES FOREVER !!!
Deadmeat is a prophet
POWER VR RULES FOREVER !!!
Deadmeat is a prophet
kurtrussell
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SUPERKYRO LIVES!!
POWER VR RULES FOREVER !!!
Deadmeat is a prophet
Indeed. Now where's my "Sega DC2"?
samus4ever
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Stephen Colbert
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Why wouldn't they exploit the power. If the Vita featured this with build in support for DX11.1, they could easily downport PC games and even next gen consoles games directly to the Vita.
As is, the Vita is being sent out to die this Feb because it doesn't provide enough of an improvement/differntiation over the 3DS. If it featured the PowerVR 6, it could have delivered next gen launch console games on the platform.
This announcement was just to name the first cores; it's actually lighter on technical details than the A9600 reveal many months ago. The fact that the IP cores will scale under two tracks of feature support, one at a level roughly DirectX 10 and the other roughly DirectX 11.1, has always been blatantly obvious.
Yes, as mentioned earlier in the thread, the 20x figure is just a FLOPs comparison... nothing controversial of which to be doubtful.
Comparing cores between different IP families requires a lot more context than people are considering. For example, a single Mali400MP core is a lot smaller than a single SGX543MP core, just for starters, and is probably the least interesting difference between the two.
To at least try to get a valid point of reference for making comparisons, consider that ST-Ericsson is planning a mobile phone SoC within a year with GPU performance reaching up to more than 200 GFLOPS and 5 GTex/s per layer of 3D complexity effective. The comparison then would be to whatever a high end nVidia or Mali powered phone of the time could achieve. (I wouldn't bet against the TBDR)
Yes, as mentioned earlier in the thread, the 20x figure is just a FLOPs comparison... nothing controversial of which to be doubtful.
Comparing cores between different IP families requires a lot more context than people are considering. For example, a single Mali400MP core is a lot smaller than a single SGX543MP core, just for starters, and is probably the least interesting difference between the two.
To at least try to get a valid point of reference for making comparisons, consider that ST-Ericsson is planning a mobile phone SoC within a year with GPU performance reaching up to more than 200 GFLOPS and 5 GTex/s per layer of 3D complexity effective. The comparison then would be to whatever a high end nVidia or Mali powered phone of the time could achieve. (I wouldn't bet against the TBDR)