GoldenEye98
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The thread with news of Xbox selling 30M units wasn't sitting well with the FUD army so a moving-goalposts-thread had to be started?
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PS5 is outselling Xbox Series Consoles at a rate of about 4 to 1 the last 15 months
DeepEnigma
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ByWatterson
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So weird. And they HAD Viva Pinata. And Banjo! And Jet Force Gemini for fuck's sake!
HeWhoWalks
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Square’s comments don’t change a thing. If something sells lower on the best selling home console, what on Earth would Xbox do?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
but jokes aside .. there are people on GAF who legitimately think that after Pro's pricing model, Sony are gonna revert back to $499 for PS6.
they need a reality check lol
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DeepEnigma
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Now this is gaslighting.
Lucifers Beard
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midnightAI
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I mean in total come the end of the gen. Series sales are around 28mill? If it's a 50/50 split that's 14 mill, but my guess is it isn't 50/50 so Pro 'may' be able to beat one of them
TheGodfather07
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I don't thinks there's any chance of 40m. Xbox series is barely selling now. Its doing end of life numbers. I dont see how it can stretch to 40m. 35m is more realistic.
XXL
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Same ol G
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That would definitely raise some eyebrows.
Same ol G
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Ow that definitely wouldn't be a good day for Microsoft if that happens.
XXL
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I think it has a chance to outsell the Series X or S individually.
It would have to sell approximately 17.5M to do so. I don't think that's unreasonable in its full life cycle, say 3-4 years.
XXL
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I just took the average of the months and quickly did it in my head.
I think it's closer to 4:1 than 3:1 though. It's probably around 3.7 to 1.
Sooner
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RetroGamingUK
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Providing studios like Naughty Dog and SuckerPunch haven’t been on holiday since last gen then we shouldn’t be too far away from seeing announcements and footage. I’m as excited about seeing these games as I am playing them.
The brand thing is really important, look at how loyal people are to Apple despite rising prices. At this point most iPhone owners would never consider an Android.
Unknown?
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Better
RetroGamingUK
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Speaking of branding, what in blue f*** is this?
BlackTron
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Yeah a platform with so many hardware versions should probably figure out a system and stick to it FFS. God it's all over the place.
Edit: Eh there may be some rhyme or reason. I'm guessing the second game and second-to-last game are older. At some point they changed the system and everything else is newer, with white bands. Everything still seems random because of different versions. Castlevania will play on Xbox One but is not enhanced on S or X so it doesn't have those logos. On the other hand an Xbox One game that is actually enhanced on X will have the X logo on the box.
Convoluted but not completely crazy.
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hououinkyouma00
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I think better and worse in different ways or whatever in others. More positive than negative overall though probably.
I think Microsoft was instrumental in getting online gaming going in the living room, and ultimately the competition was the best for PlayStation (unfortunately we know what successful Sony looks like without major competition).
However I think Xbox overall hasn't added much to the industry that's truly positive outside of a couple franchises. I say that as a fan of the Xbox brand, and as somebody that has Halo, Gears, and Forza games in his favorite games of all time. Here's hoping that Xbox either finds a way to be good again.
Imagining a world in which we have a current day SEGA console with stuff like Sonic, Persona, and Yakuza exclusively is definitely an interesting thought.
Little Chicken
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The same place where many "didn't realise" that the Xbox Series consoles "had sold that much" is the same place which spreads garbage like "Xbox owners don't buy games" (accompanied by irrelevant links) and "Game Pass is full of GAAS and ruining gaming".
dcx4610
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I think the Series X is an excellent system from an engineering point of view of view. It looks nice, runs well, is quiet, has an excellent controller, good interface, etc. But it comes down to the games. It's basically a multi-plat machine and it doesn't offer any benefits over the PS5 versions. The only reason to own one outside of being a diehard Xbox fan.
Microsoft needs to fix their exclusive problem or just bow out at this point. You have to give people a reason to own your system and having the same games that's on PlayStation isn't it.
Microsoft needs to fix their exclusive problem or just bow out at this point. You have to give people a reason to own your system and having the same games that's on PlayStation isn't it.
DeepEnigma
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Management. That's management.
Bloomberg: Xbox’s ‘Exclusive’ Video Game Strategy Leaves Everyone Confused
Whole article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-08-23/xbox-s-exclusive-video-game-strategy-leaves-everyone-confused Jason Schreier: ''The problem with Xbox's new vision isn't that the company is moving away from console exclusives. The problem is that their release strategy is...
YeulEmeralda
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Sony
Always
Wins
Always
Wins
mayham2199
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Pretty much. Doesn't look good but the reality is there's nothing we can do. I supported Xbox before PS but since the 360 they just haven't done much of anything especially compared to PS. I left that ecosystem and never looked back.
Zacfoldor
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Here's the thing. Jizz is out here trying to guilt MS into stopping the PS5 ports because we were wylin out on the fanbase over it and also because SOMEBODY claimed Sony moneyhatted Wukong, so we gotta get fake stars in our eyes so we still get the ports.
That's just the way it is.
ExtendEmbraceExtinguish
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Hoping the rumor of nextbox being a premium pc hybrid is true (oem made). Aka msft getting out of the console business hardware wise. The goal should be acquisitions of EA/krafton (pubg) Restructuring it within Msft games and expansion of IPs I.e age of mythology retold but for ea’s command & conquer series.
Full focus on software, half-life 2 rtx trailer made me want to replay it. Pathtracing for all msft games older and new.
Utilizing gen z/alpha with new tiers of cosmetics aka 100 usd at minimum and cross mtx items ( bad company skins in cod/ apex in other ect).
Xbox within windows as a legacy for all previous or current owners.
Full focus on software, half-life 2 rtx trailer made me want to replay it. Pathtracing for all msft games older and new.
Utilizing gen z/alpha with new tiers of cosmetics aka 100 usd at minimum and cross mtx items ( bad company skins in cod/ apex in other ect).
Xbox within windows as a legacy for all previous or current owners.
Swagballs717
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I get we all like to meme that the PS5 has no games, but the Xbox Series X legitimately, unironically has NO exclusive games. Everything Microsoft publishes is also on PC and Game Pass day one.
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laynelane
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I almost clicked it. Thanks for the info. on the writer. Dude has such an obvious bias against Sony and it doesn't say much for Bloomberg that they keep him employed.
BlackTron
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IMO this is a huge cop-out (including when Phil said it). Was it a blow? Sure. Did it mean they needed to give more of a shit and do more things right than if they hadn't suffered that blow? Of course.
Meanwhile Nintendo built the Switch empire from Zero without a single old game compatible with it. Don't give me that shit people show up for good games and quality. N didn't use Wii U as an "excuse" to be in dire straits, they learned from mistakes, rolled up their sleeves and got to work.
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XXL
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DeepEnigma
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Klayzer
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Totally agree. A blow for sure, but insurmountable like some claim is ridiculous.
Especially with the amount of money available from Microsoft. The real reasons, are just bad business decisions, after bad business decisions.
BigLee74
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I wouldn’t say it’s a huge cop out, there’s definitely an element of truth to it and it has lead to a spectacular downfall.
Switch is kind of out there on its own. It’s not competing directly with PS and MS.
I know personally speaking I am pretty much MS until they stop producing hardware now, whether I like it or not. I own about 500 digital games, and I won’t give them up easily.
Somebody touched on it above - even if the next Xbox is cheaper, more powerful, AND releases better exclusives, very little will change now. I believe that.
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BlackTron
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At the beginning of this gen I think it's fairly obvious that Xbox had another chance. They screwed up, but you could feel it in the air, we were ready to let them try again. Covid spiked sales for everyone, it was hard to get both consoles. They got momentum back, they just didn't use it.
At this point, the reason Xbox would have a hard time is because the brand has accumulated too much damage on all fronts (including but not limited to digital libraries). Pretty much Sega, could do everything right but the world was too soured already.
If they wanted to do everything right in unison, with their massive resources, they could. In their shoes, I would make it a Microsoft console with a NEW BRAND. But it would be dumb to do without fixing everything. They would probably just change the brand alone and hope people like the new logo better and that's what would "work". No, the point would be to make a great product and not see Xbox anywhere on it.
An interesting point about the brand. It's funny to think that when the OG Xbox launched they tried to keep Microsoft away from the branding as much as possible.
RetroGamingUK
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I remember showing off my new Dreamcast to my mates, they thought Sonic Adventure and Soul Calibur were awesome.
They said they’d never buy one though cause it’d end up getting abandoned like the “Shiturn”
bender
What time is it?
The reality check will come based on how well Pro sells. It will also be easy for Sony to compare lifetime sales of PS4 vs PS5 and percentages each Pro model did for the respective hardware generation.
They've gone to xbox according to you. The fact that you expect a better than 10% attach rate for FF on xbox is crazy. 3 Million
FoxMcChief
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Deservingly so.
RetroGamingUK
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It’s weird how the mass market fluctuates when it comes to Nintendo.
They’ve been up and down since the 80s but they always bounce back.
laynelane
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Phil has a lot of excuses for why Xbox is struggling. That was just another one, imo. Xbox has been driven into the ground under his tenure, but it's always something else that's the problem or issue according to him.
BlackTron
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They innovate until they find something good, and they never do anything that loses money. They're just exceptional business managers. Sega ran out of money but if you "beat" Nintendo they can just come back again, and again, and again.