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PS5 Pro Officially Announced - Releasing Nov 7th - Price: $699.99 €$799.99 ¥119,980
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Lambogenie
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Doesn't really work for long. Can damage reputation for a while and breaks any trust. If they really feel it's worth it, stand by it.
blastprocessor
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saintjules
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Well if the certification thing is correct about games supporting the Pro after the 16th, then all the games we have to look forward to (eg. Death Stranding 2, GoT2, FFVIIR, Crimson Desert, etc.) will all see some extra benefit to make the experience all around better. I'm personally excited for them.
I guess Sony better hope that framerates and improved fidelity is solid across the board for every Pro supported title moving forward.
sachos
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Did this dude edit those comparisons to make them look blurrier? Watch how the PS5 logos, the "Performance" text and the right image become blurrier as soon as he pauses the video each time...
You can clearly see the difference even in this re uploaded compressed 1080p video... People are pretending to not see differences just for outrage...
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Eszti
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I can aee it too on my big tv its dtill a joke since they presented it on youtobe in only 1080p which is extremely compressed. Also this video is clearly a joke dude. Its not that serious about plasticbox with silicium in it.
Rocco Schiavone
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I always find it ridiculous when PC fanboys get upset about console prices.
Btw, chip costs maybe $50 more (at most vs PS5 soc) the rest is more or less the same (even higher clocked memory doesn't cost really more, and it has only a small up lock). So PS5 + 50% ... Well someone seems to have miscalculated the end product here.
Well the old Sony is really back.
Well the old Sony is really back.
Eszti
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Finally do someone got it. Sony ears extremely well with the pro at this price. Nvidia is nothing against that. Ok the marge on the 90 and 80 cards is huge too.
Radical_3d
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I hate the pricing of the Pro but I find this guy completely unbearable.
mayham2199
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IMO the value argument was always out the window. If you do the math between buying games and paying for online\cloud saves it was about the same. I just think PC is garbage for gaming (other than the performance of games of course) so I could never stick with it.
mayham2199
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Yea I gave up trying to understand how a game looked all the way back when Battlefield 4 came out. I remember looking at youtube videos thinking it looked like shit. Then I go ahead and get the game and boot it up on my PS4 and nice big TV and I was blown away how good it looked. I will never judge a video game by the youtube video again.
I also remember around this time Killzone Shadowfall released a downloadable video because they understood that the youtube compression wasn't really showing you how good the game looks.
John Wick
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
You don’t.
Ridiculous that they use a second hand PC for comparison. Just buy a second hand PS5 then much cheaper.
Sinfulgore
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Am I the only one who thinks these Pro consoles are a scam? You are so reliant on the developers to patch support to use the additional power and there is no incentive for non-first-party developers to do that. Sure most upcoming AAA games will probably support PS5 Pro but what about everything else? The PS5 Pro is powerful enough to run some older PS4 games and indie games at well above 60FPS but you won't be able to do that if the devs don't patch that support in. Maybe console gamers are ok with this but as a PC gamer, I'd hate to upgrade to a higher-tier graphics card and then need to wait for patches to take advantage of the additional power I paid for.
Trogdor1123
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Just say the Canadian price, 959.99… drive is $120 here too. Some provinces have up to 13% tax too! Wowsers
Go_Ly_Dow
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Reasonable take. He's getting it for FF7 Rebirth.
clarky
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Why ? I consider myself a PC main but if this thing was reasonably priced I would for sure upgrade my PS5. As it stands no chance, I reserve the right to be upset.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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I don't and I don't even think a new xbox "console" releases.
John Wick
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Nobody's staning anything. So how much is a brand new RTX 3080?
They aren't that expensive but cost the same as a PS5.
I think you need to stop giving people advice on what's outrageously expensive and what isn't. If your too stupid to realise prices have been going up since the PS4 Pro launch. GPU's should be your first port of call for outrageously expensive kit.
So don't buy it. Why are you on this thread if it's too expensive for you?
saintjules
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Uncompressed version of the presentation.
But it's still on Youtube...?
hemo memo
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Because it’s a discussion forum?
Senua
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We need gamersyde!
clarky
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Luipadre
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Crispy Gamer
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That's wayyy cleaner damn
hinch7
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Much better quality. It does look quite a bit sharper verses OG games running on performance modes (watch in .25 speed). I still think the choice of games shown is bad though.
Would've had a much bigger impact if they'd just shown and revealed something new and recent on the Pro and perhaps FF7 Rebirth in their performance mode. You would've easily seen the difference even with terrible compression on top of more compression.
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Unknown Soldier
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YouTube 4K is actually a lot better than their 1080p
I know it sounds like I'm not saying much but really I am
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Definitely. Still compressed, though.
aliadiere25
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Well, we can't base it off Xbox's pricing because they have no clue what they're doing. But it shouldn't cost any more than 599, especially when it doesn't include a disc drive or a stand.
It's crazy that Sony has gone from 449 (PS5) to 699 in the space of just 4 years. That's quite a big jump in pricing, regardless if we're getting an updated PS5 and more storage. The UK has been hit the most by the price with it being something over 900 dollars, and that's without including the disc drive and the stand. It's well over 1000 dollars if you include those.
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saintjules
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They are trying to justify things to themselves that this isn't going to be a worthwhile product. Either that or they are waiting for the 'we hear you' post from Sony.
saintjules
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Yeah lol. I'm just going on the description of what IGN said.
I guess all in all, we won't know the true vision of the comparisons until we have this in our Homes it looks like
sachos
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It can be done on Youtube but pretty much everyone does it badly, thats why Digital Foundry are so far ahead, their video quality is far above anyone else. They record footage at insane bitrates.
DeltaPolarBear
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But you don't actually pay Sony more as a Pro gamer than a regular PS5 owner. The only benefit Sony gets from you for buying a Pro would be a one time profit from the hardware sale. So why should Sony push hard to make it easier for you to upgrade when the profit from the hardware was the only real benefit they get out of it?
clarky
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I understand what you are trying to say but i respectfully disagree. If i upgrade my PS5 the OG doesn't go in the trash.
sachos
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Just spent some time Alt+Tabing between this one and the original stream and yeah, the IGN one is higher quality. It would have been cool if they provided a download link to the RAW file though.
lordrand11
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You're absolutely correct! Except one teeny tiny little thing, 3080s aren't $700 sir. Newegg is not a good estimate anymore. I see them going for anywhere from $470 to $700, that's renewed (like new) to brand new, to on sale etc.,
As a traditional PS5 absolutely, but not the PRO.
The fact your name calling tells me you're a stan and anything outside your wheelhouse that doesn't fit your narrative is gonna be met with this stupid aggression whining. GPU's have been going up in price, but usually only the newest of the new, let's check the comparable 6800xt via AMD, anywhere from $350 - $600 currently, the latest model, the 7800xt, one gen ahead of the 68 is going for about $60 more than the previous generation card.
Because I can talk about what I'm passionate about and have an opinion on it just like anyone else in this thread.
Again, this is a dumb mistake on Sony's behalf. One they'll likely suffer for.
It's just me, I hated the ps5 pro before because of its price and lack of build in cd drive (optional separate cddrive ) But to be honest, it is weird , its kind of growing in me and I begin to like it especially after reading about it and seeing its specs, and potentials. Well I hope it will be capable of upgrading majority of existing games into 4k/60fps on the fly or with just a few updates on the games for the upgrade to work.
I'm still on the fence if I'm going to get one or not, since I'm already happy with my ps5, but unlike the others especially the haters, I'm not that OA that hating it so much while in fact it is optional , no one is being force to upgrade, and it targets a few just like ps4 pro. The ps5 is still the main hardware and its a good hardware. And some haters does not even plan to buy it even in cheaper price, in the first place.
I'm still on the fence if I'm going to get one or not, since I'm already happy with my ps5, but unlike the others especially the haters, I'm not that OA that hating it so much while in fact it is optional , no one is being force to upgrade, and it targets a few just like ps4 pro. The ps5 is still the main hardware and its a good hardware. And some haters does not even plan to buy it even in cheaper price, in the first place.
XXL
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TLOU 2 and Ratchet look better than fidelity mode on PS5, but at 60fps.
I'm extremely excited to see some demonstrations.
Hrk69
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digital_ghost
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FullMetalx117
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Man I hope it’s easy to order. Going to get the disc drive too. PS5 broke earlier this year, I’m looking forward to this