Marathon threads seem to attract a lot of attention, so you could be right.Doubt this is a delay. This means Sony has discovered that they do not need to pay anything to advertise the game anymore, as the game has reached its maximum potential exposure. Besides, we have Playstation fans helping to advertise without charge. So why not save the money that isn't going to do anything
Which previous console are you referring toWill it at least cross 500k unlike the previous one?
Let them suffer some more, we dont wanna get another "gaas initiative" next gen with ps6, sony has to be uterly demolished by gaas failure to learn from it, they cant get any glimpse of hope, for that they need to lose humongous mountain of money, thats the only way they can learn.Just cancel it at this point, a delay won't save it.
Hot take: Concord was actually a better game when it released than Marathon is at 'alpha'
Marathon threads seem to attract a lot of attention, so you could be right.
Supposedly the art director Joseph Cross and some others at Bungie were actively following the artist (AntiReal). So it looks like they were blatantly just copying someone else's homework - so to speak. Even down to the music taste. And tried to pin the blame on some phantom employee when the whole crew was likely in on it. Shameless.Bungie has a history of stealing other people's work, they fully deserve that shit. Is it so hard to have someone verify the sources for all the creative work? You know, to make sure that nothing disrupts a multi-million project?
He's right tho. A Steam console would sell gangbusters
And he likely had nothing to do with the Bungie acquisition.i bet his head and balls are in the hopping block too
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I don't think you understand; the people who could make a spiritual successor to Halo don't work at Bungie anymore. Pete Parsons got rid of them all. Bungie is a skinsuit.To me, the right thing to do for sony is to internalize bungie in to playstation studios america, cancel this mess of a game, and let bungie make destiny 3 AND a 30 to 40 hour single player halo spiritual successor with a pvp mode
More like a landmine at this point.Completely Sonys fault. They were swimming in success after Xbox went third party and decided to make 12 GAAS. 12. And none came out right. They shoot themselves in the foot
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Your entire steam library is supported
Games are much cheaper than on Ms and Sony consoles
But sure keep laughing
i dont know if its woke or not, but as soon as i saw "he/him, they/them" on Bungie stream i was out, this alone is a red flag.How the fuck is Marathon woke? You people have lost the plot.
But... what if they try EXTRA on GAAS hard next gen and charge $800 for PS6 to make up for their PS5 gaas failures?Let them suffer some more, we dont wanna get another "gaas initiative" next gen with ps6, sony has to be uterly demolished by gaas failure to learn from it, they cant get any glimpse of hope, for that they need to lose humongous mountain of money, thats the only way they can learn.
But... what if they try EXTRA on GAAS hard next gen and charge $800 for PS6 to make up for their PS5 gaas failures?
Someone is gonna pay for Sony's failures and it ain't Sony. It's the consumer.
Im not, they deserve this pushing their new agenda despite the old strategy of single player games was working.I'm starting to get worried about Sony
Just give the PlayStation back to Nintendo they will look after it.I'm starting to get worried about Sony
I think in this case is more like spending 1 million dollars on lotery tickets hoping to get that 500 mil price ... sure your odds are much better but they still are completely shit ... buying up studios and making your studios do gaas all around hoping for the next fortnite billionaire money maker is insane .... you can hope to make good games like helldivers 2 that are successful but in the end thats it, not some billionaire juggernaut, this things are lightning in the bottle. Its an insane strategy. Specially when you became market leader doing exactly the contrary.That Sony exec who said "all we need is one big GAAS o cover the rest" assumed that hit game would be Fortnite levels of success AND any bombs would be reasonably low costs. He never imagined at the time of Bungie bombing, high cost Concord, and most studios/games cancelled.
He thought at the time if 10 new GAAS come out, if 1 is a big hit and the other 9 breakeven-ish and shut down, that the one winner still leads to big profits.
It's like stocks. He buys 10 stocks. As long as one is a giant gainer that should be enough to increase the portfolio as long as the other 9 picks are so so. Problem is, 9 stocks all dropped 50-100%. So even though his one great pick is +300%, it's still not enough to cover the rest.
They've brought on a massive bump in costs onto themselves and have legitimately taken some of their own studios out from the draw for a decade because of their choice. They made the wrong one.Also, if you understand the economics of the games market, you'll see why Sony had no choice but to try and expand into the GaaS market. There has been no growth in the core gaming segment for well over a decade. Peak console Install bases are not growing, while production and publishing costs have risen substantially.
Adding PVE would take more time unless you're talking about keeping the same garbage gameplay loop with no PVP…. (I like Tarkov)Three scenarios likely:
1. Getting cancelled
2. Adding PVE
3. Making it free-to-play (and then taking it offline after 6 months)
Even O'Donnell is kind of mocking them on Twitter right now.I don't think you understand; the people who could make a spiritual successor to Halo don't work at Bungie anymore. Pete Parsons got rid of them all. Bungie is a skinsuit.
The problem isn't GAAS….I'm not.
This is the best timeline, less GaaS the better.
The acquisition was a panick move from Jim Ryan after knowing Microsoft would acquire Activision. It was not driven by logic rationale and thorough due diligence.Totally.
Funny how the second Sony buys them, maybe a year later suddenly Bungie financials tank 45%, Marathon is looking to be a disaster, and who knows if there's even a Destiny 3 coming. we all need stock tips from Pete Parsons because he knows when to sell at the high.
Whatever business slides and games under dev (like Marathon) they showed Sony execs must had been so impressive it was worth $3.6B. There is now way IMO some Destiny 2 DLC, Marathon and their GAAS expert wisdom is worth that much. They either totally fudged their financials, promoted Marathon extraction shooter as a giant killer game, and topped it off showing how perhaps a Destiny 3 in the works will lead to a gazillion sales.
Then again, maybe Sony was just so amped up on GAAS with endless money greenlit by the CEO that Jim and Hermen just didnt give a shit and bought up as many GAAS studios they could while not fairly evaluating the acquisitions as they really are.
Does Nintendo not understand the economics of the games market? They don't do GAAS and they are laughing all the way to the bank with what will be the best selling console ever and software that sells laps around other console manufacturers.None of Bungie's problems are on Sony. It takes minimal effort to see what Sony actually paid for, and who actually has been in control at Bungie for all this time.
Also, if you understand the economics of the games market, you'll see why Sony had no choice but to try and expand into the GaaS market. There has been no growth in the core gaming segment for well over a decade. Peak console Install bases are not growing, while production and publishing costs have risen substantially.
No proximity chat because it will hurt people's feelings….How the fuck is Marathon woke? You people have lost the plot.
Coz secret behind "modern audience" is- its for female audience, products targeted to women are utter trash in men's eyes, there is a reason only time man watches romantic comedy genre is when he is about to fuck woman who is watching it with him, that is the only reason we are willing to suffer tru this shit, to get access to sex =DThe problem isn't GAAS….
The problem that these big companies are having is the same issue with the comic book industry… It's women coming into a male dominated space and feminist men….
Ask yourself why we are getting a Ghost of Yotei and not Tsushima 2? At least with Ghost you can copy and paste most gameplay mechanics don't won't be bad.
Sony has been cancelling single player games too…
Have some of you not noticed Sony likes making games for blind people and people with no arms….
They wouldn't let DayZ bring their game to PlayStation without highlighting names on proximity chat so that players could get reported…
You're not getting PVP games made for men by Sony… They are refusing to give us Socom….
All their main characters are women outside of Kratos…
This isn't exactly news though.
This was already hot topic during the launch of Destiny 1.
It's also why Activision pulled out of the Destiny-deal with Bungie.
As for a delay, I don't mind. Let em sort things out.
What console? Their last console was wiiu and it was laughed all the way to the trash bin.Does Nintendo not understand the economics of the games market? They don't do GAAS and they are laughing all the way to the bank with what will be the best selling console ever and software that sells laps around other console manufacturers.
Even O'Donnell is kind of mocking them on Twitter right now.
This why "investing" into the belief that a studio's culture or creative force will remain the same over time is foolish. Especially, once they begin gutting long time talent and creators who made the studio name what it was. Other leaderships around the industry should either learn from this or be frightend by it (since they're past the point where they've done it themselves).
Runs the biggest PlayStation podcast on earth and multiple other gaming podcasts. I think they are making easily a few million dollars a year. He never left gaming, last stand media is about the only "games journalism" I listen to because it's not full of absolute shite. Just a nuanced podcast with a lot of industry details that many other outlets brush over or ignore."This information comes from Colin Moriarty."
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Seriously though I thought this dude left gaming years ago to spread the gospel of politics or something.I had no idea he was back on the gaming side.
Does Nintendo not understand the economics of the games market? They don't do GAAS and they are laughing all the way to the bank with what will be the best selling console ever and software that sells laps around other console manufacturers.
That kind of doesn't work once they're way, way past having a major chunk of significant key people in their workforce. Bungie is well past its creative prime. The people who made it what it was, brought them widespread acclaim, as well as established their positive rep, have been rotated out a long time ago. The current leadership really took Sony for a ride with that clause. They've been riding on the glory days of the old Bungie crew and harvesting the benefits from that perception.A huge chunk of the acquisition money was for employee retention, though, to head off this exact thing.
What Sony didn't realize though, or didn't want to realize, is that Bungie has been a garbage company full of shysters for a long-ass time and this shit is just part and parcel.