I'm starting to get worried about Sony
Dude I can't believe they had dozens of those (mo-capped?) cinematics for Concord that will never be seen by anyone. I still wince at how much of a waste that was.They are caught because on one hand Sony loves SP stuff and their fans enjoy SP narratives too. Bungie has a history of making shooters with lots of lore and SP campaigns too with Halo and Destiny. So there's some expectations already baked in.
But the game has been so problematic in development and Sony needs them to rush it out the door, so they cut corners. Exactly like Concord. Another shooter that was supposed to have giant story and lore as the second coming of Star Wars. But had no SP and it's story was a bunch of cut scenes.
If Sony or Bungie cant handle SP anymore, then dont bother and make it a MP focused game. Apex and PUBG dont have SP. I dont think anyone playing COD Warzone cares. And most COD gamers probably beeline right to MP skipping whatever Captain Price is doing in SP. So you dont have to have a detailed SP campaign for a shooter to succeed.
But since they put so much resources and focus on SP, it's a disaster if it all doesnt come together at release because it looks half finished. Concord didnt even make sense. It was so choppy how they released their SP vignettes, supposedly the Amazon video didnt even have to do with any of the characters in the game. I dont know if thats actually true, since I didnt watch it. But thats what I read. Why would they do this? Because they are trying for some "it'll all come together and make sense later".
Well, if things were executed smoothly from the start, you wouldnt need to do that.
Cart before the horse. Weird strategy too. Everyone understands a game will have more weapons or maps later to spice up the gameplay. But at least the core game at launch is fully featured. But dole out cinematics bit by bit for a shooter that is supposed to be the equivalent of Star Wars lore? lol.Dude I can't believe they had dozens of those (mo-capped?) cinematics for Concord that will never be seen by anyone. I still wince at how much of a waste that was.
Same. I don't think the lore even needs to be that deep, just write a compelling story about that supposed lead character in that big budget cinematic trailer. It seemed obvious. But then when you see the actual game it feels totally divorced from that trailer, almost like they were forced to dumb it down.I just wanted another lengthy single player FPS with deep lore/history, and a multiplayer component added to it.
I think the only reason a single player campaign wouldn't have worked is because the individual characters were total dogshit.Cart before the horse. Weird strategy too. Everyone understands a game will have more weapons or maps later to spice up the gameplay. But at least the core game at launch is fully featured. But dole out cinematics bit by bit for a shooter that is supposed to be the equivalent of Star Wars lore? lol.
Would had been better if they scrapped a lot of those clips and just made a SP campaign. I remember some people on this board saying those high quality cinematics arent cheap to make either. Even if they might be only a couple minutes long, each one can be expensive. Which ever employees or external contracted out studio got asked to do them, kudos. You got paid good money to be employed making pointless stuff which didnt even release with the game.
Jim and Hermen are supposed to be the people in charge of pushing for studio acquisitions and any internally made GAAS games.I think the only reason a single player campaign wouldn't have worked is because the individual characters were total dogshit.
I really think with Marathon and Fairgames going south now, it proves that there's definitely someone at Sony giving bad direction and approval on all of this shit. There's no way to explain it, it's beyond coincidence at this point. There's no way it was Jim Ryan responsible for setting all this up.
I think who's to blame is whatever person or team at Sony is responsible for doing project progress "check-ins" with the first party studios. I don't entirely believe that all three of these studios suck at what they do - I think the people who have been approving or directing the progress of these games from Sony (telling them what to cut and what to add, etc.) are really to blame.Jim and Hermen are supposed to be the people in charge of pushing for studio acquisitions and any internally made GAAS games.
But who knows. Maybe those two know nothing about GAAS and relied on some peers to feed them info who and what to go after. It's like sports. People blame management for picking draft busts. Ya, they are the ones ultimately accountable for a bad pick, but it's the scouts who do all the dirty work and recommending which players to go after. Yet in sports, how often does the scouting team get ragged on? Hardly ever.
I bet almost all sports fans dont know even one scout for their fav teams. I know I dont.
It would be, but I don't think Parsons is loyal to anyone but himself. Just cashing out from every angle.Hahahah this is the most clandestine black-op in corporate espionage. Fill a failing company with crappy employees and sell it to your competitor to help them hang themselves.
5 D chess maneuver, bravo!
"It sells itself"I don't think this means it's delayed, more like the livestream was such a success that we've all got hyped enough.
Shouldn't it be Bungie you should be worried about? They influenced and consulted on Sony's GAAS push and so far we have:I'm starting to get worried about Sony
His channel is relatively small but he recently had Shuhei Yoshida and Neil Druckmann on his podcast. He is definitely well conected in the industry still."This information comes from Colin Moriarty."
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Seriously though I thought this dude left gaming years ago to spread the gospel of politics or something.I had no idea he was back on the gaming side.
Well, lets see what happens. A Realm Reborn had an incredibly succesful rework. Destiny had its problems too, tons of reworks. No Mans Sky managed to have a turnaround too. I'm not saying Marathon will have the same fate or outcome. But I would love to see that happening instead of a massive failure. Or even launching Marathon as a F2P Early Access style title that grows WITH the community. Could be great too.Reworking the whole thing into a pve game will take well over 2 years, and cost a shitton. This is not happening.
Bungie has a history of stealing other people's work, they fully deserve that shit. Is it so hard to have someone verify the sources for all the creative work? You know, to make sure that nothing disrupts a multi-million project?Pretty sure one of the main reason for the delay or cancelation of marketing plans probably has to do with the plagiarism.
They can't just advertise the game now without getting sued with all that artists work there.
If it wasn't for that, I get the feeling that Sony was really pushing Bungie to get it out the door.
Hot take: Concord was actually a better game when it released than Marathon is at 'alpha'
Hot take: Concord was actually a better game when it released than Marathon is at 'alpha'
This isn't just about Antireal.A delay will be way more costly than hiring or paying Antireal a fuckton of money to use their work.
Bungie has roughly 850 employees. Even if every employee only made 50k a year, a 6 month delay to scrub and rework assets would cost over $20 million.
Paying Antireal a huge lump sum of $2 million would not only save them the time of scrubbing and reworking assets, it would give them some much needed good will.
Their current plan of "rework the stolen assets so we don't have to pay Antireal" is not only way more expensive, it's makes them look like even bigger assholes than what they currently are.
But since they seem to be going down the path of scrub and rework assets, any marketing campaign they had would have been using footage from a build with stolen assets. So 100% they have to cancel their paid marketing.
They have ZERO usable footage. Only after however long it takes to scrub and rework the assets can they then start a new ad campaign.
Bungie has roughly 850 employees. Even if every employee only made 50k a year, a 6 month delay to scrub and rework assets would cost over $20 million.
If it ever was a decisive factor calloduty would have been dead 15 years ago. Gamers proved countless times that they can digest crap without any problemAnyone who played it knew it was a soulless piece of crap in 10 minutes
Yeah 10 minutes
Have you seen the credits for Destiny 2: The Witch Queen?How do they have 850 people? How are they have so many people and still manage to steal stuff from other people. Shareholders should force anyone out who was responsible for this garbage deal.
This whole acquisition was a huge red flag. You would think Sony would have done their due diligence or at least have someone there to keep them in check as opposed to letting them operate autonomously, given their history. They got completely scammed by these frauds. They milked the retention bonuses and honestly this whole situation with Marathon has been so sketchy, almost feels like Bungie intentionally sabotaged this game.Bungie has a history of stealing other people's work, they fully deserve that shit. Is it so hard to have someone verify the sources for all the creative work? You know, to make sure that nothing disrupts a multi-million project?
A Steam console is what we need. Then Xbox and Sony would be out of the console game and just develop things for Steam. No more console wars, no more exclusives and in the right environment, Steam
He's right tho. A Steam console would sell gangbusters
He's right tho. A Steam console would sell gangbusters
Will it at least cross 500k unlike the previous one?He's right tho. A Steam console would sell gangbusters
This is going to be worse than concord.
I cant believe how bad Herman and Jim have fucked sonys generation. Worst management fuck ups I've seen and there's been some crazy ones in this industry.
Dude was handed a well oiled machine that literally printed money, and we're seeing the fallout as his chickens come home to roost- and it's looking like the second half of the PS5 is gonna be a fucking graveyard.You shouldn't. They gotta squeeze all the Jim Ryan out.