ROG Xbox Ally and ROG Xbox Ally X Announced | Coming this holiday 2025

I think I am over being mad at team Xbox for wanting them to compete in the console space without all of the shenanigans. I am going to embrace their PC side and not worry about the console any longer. My Series X has sat silent for months and my Game Pass expired yesterday. I have no desire to even look for a "deal" to renew it. This is it, for Xbox, I am going all in on PC unless they screw this up too. Let the Steam OS vs Windows handheld OS era begin.
 
Crayon said:
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Ah… Nothing constructive to add. Classy!
 
MS can't even be bothered to make its own hardware anymore? Okay then... It might be a cool device. I kinda dig the handheld PC concept, but I don't see this as much different from any of the other available options.
 
winjer said:
We have already seen that Windows is terrible for performance and power usage on these mobile devices.
Better stick to the Steam Deck, or any other handheld that supports SteamOS.
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Yep my first PC handheld is likely going to be the Steam Deck 2 or some variant of it.
 
Agreed that fsr4 is worth waiting for. You'll be able to get a cheaper device that runs better. On, the other hand, no telling how long that will be. Idk if there's going to be rdna4 apus or we have to wait for udna or what.
 
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Buggy Loop said:
They don't have FSR 4, the chipsets with RDNA 3.5 are already out on other devices including zen laptops.

To me any of these PC handhelds without FSR4 is currently a waste of time, its imminent that one does with RDNA 4 GPU.
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I was correcting the statement that their mobile chips were not RDNA specifically, which is why I didn't mention FSR.

In saying that, there is evidence that AMD is bringing FSR4 to RDNA 3.5 gpu's

www.notebookcheck.net

Evidence mounts for AMD FSR 4 on non-RDNA 4 hardware as driver tips AMD Zen 6 iGPU to stick with RDNA 3.5

Despite impressive efficiency results in our review, AMD has now semi-officially confirmed that RDNA 4 will not make it to mobile devices in any way, not even as Zen 6 iGPUs. The good news is that this suggests AMD may eventually port FSR 4 to older generations, as the AMD Ryzen Strix Halo APU...
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twilo99 said:
I'd wait to see what other OEMs can come up with and Microsoft themselves before buying
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It looks like it does not have an oculink port. I might have to wait and see how these things shake out. My plan is to get a PC handheld and dock it with a GPU when I am home. I think I am done with building larger PCs and I plan to go back to a micro-PC. If I can find a handheld that docks well, that might be my next PC.
 
They have got to get the pricing right with this and once reviewers get it in their hands Microsoft obviously knows it's going to be compared to steam OS.
 
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I'm disappointed the they just talked about it being an Xbox and whatever but didn't mention anything about a gaming specific Windows, I'd like an official Windows optimized for gaming so maybe Linux stop beating their as on it
 
Would be awesome is the can do fsr4 in rdna 3.5. I hear you can make it run in rdna3 but performance hit is unusable.
 
If this custom OS becomes publicly available, I can see building a custom mini-PC to hook up to a big screen being an incredible value. I could have the Xbox, Steam, Sony PC releases and possibly a lot more in a true dream machine. I'm imagining all sorts of mischief with lightgun games, MAME, Switch emulators, etc. Basically everything in 1 box
 
Are they looking after us console owners who have actually purchased games on their consoles? I have over 700 games on my Series X going from the original Xbox CONSOLE through to the 360 CONSOLE, Xbox One CONSOLE and now the Series X CONSOLE (remember what consoles are Microsoft? They are how you got into the gaming space you're in today) so will I be able to play all those games on this handheld PC? Or will it only allow me to play the roughly 90 games it transfers across onto my Windows PC Xbox store? Meaning I lose over 600 games I've paid for...
 
MacReady13 said:
Are they looking after us console owners who have actually purchased games on their consoles? I have over 700 games on my Series X going from the original Xbox CONSOLE through to the 360 CONSOLE, Xbox One CONSOLE and now the Series X CONSOLE (remember what consoles are Microsoft? They are how you got into the gaming space you're in today) so will I be able to play all those games on this handheld PC? Or will it only allow me to play the roughly 90 games it transfers across onto my Windows PC Xbox store? Meaning I lose over 600 games I've paid for...
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You lose over 600 games you've paid for. Or just stay on Xbox Series X
 
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Kataploom said:
I'm disappointed the they just talked about it being an Xbox and whatever but didn't mention anything about a gaming specific Windows, I'd like an official Windows optimized for gaming so maybe Linux stop beating their as on it
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True especially for desktop. The only way now is to run scripts/ tools to remove all the bloatwear Microsoft puts on. I personally run a blank canvas Windows 11. I've completely stripped every single thing that I don't need out of Windows. From edge to the MS store and I've got it down to around 77 process.


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MacReady13 said:
Are they looking after us console owners who have actually purchased games on their consoles? I have over 700 games on my Series X going from the original Xbox CONSOLE through to the 360 CONSOLE, Xbox One CONSOLE and now the Series X CONSOLE (remember what consoles are Microsoft? They are how you got into the gaming space you're in today) so will I be able to play all those games on this handheld PC? Or will it only allow me to play the roughly 90 games it transfers across onto my Windows PC Xbox store? Meaning I lose over 600 games I've paid for...
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In theory, you can direct stream from your Series systems. So if you have it there, you should be able to play it on the handheld
 
Really got to wait for the "things they didn't tell us" segment of this that will probably come later in the year. Because I think there will be a lot of that.
 
This thing will be literally twice as expensive as Switch 2 yet less optimized.

By normal console standards it's dead on arrival. Let's be realistic.
 
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Parazels said:
This thing will be literally twice as expensive as Switch 2 and less optimized.

By normal console standards it's dead on arrival. Let's be realistic.
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they make a weak one low as steemdeck to confirmed but i will nort get this to play game steemdeck is crud and have no nintendo game
 
Magic Carpet said:
Do these things need FSR4 to be a bit future proof? Seems these will be outdated in a year.
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There is no planned Z3 lineup for AMD's next-gen APUs. The next OEM handheld APU lineup (if it happens at all, as AMD seems to be losing interest in this market) will be with their next-next-gen lineup in 2029. The only AMD handheld with AI upscaling anytime soon will be the Playstation handheld.
 
Kataploom said:
I'm disappointed the they just talked about it being an Xbox and whatever but didn't mention anything about a gaming specific Windows, I'd like an official Windows optimized for gaming so maybe Linux stop beating their as on it
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the hands on previews that went online had more info. it runs a special windows version that boots directly into a console like menu and doesn't run any of the desktop environment processes in the background, freeing up 2GB of memory compared to normal Windows, and apparently they are working to improve on that even further.

it also is less power hungry and has an improved sleep mode.
 
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Timberwolf25 said:
If this custom OS becomes publicly available, I can see building a custom mini-PC to hook up to a big screen being an incredible value. I could have the Xbox, Steam, Sony PC releases and possibly a lot more in a true dream machine. I'm imagining all sorts of mischief with lightgun games, MAME, Switch emulators, etc. Basically everything in 1 box
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So, a PC then.
 
David B said:
Steam is on there. Even if not you can install it anyway. Just close the Xbox app and it's Windows anyway. Steam runs on Windows. So Valve CEO can't do anything about it.
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Yeah I guess you can.

I was thinking of how there was a "leaked" image of a user interface on an Xbox device with Steam integrated into it. Maybe its a different thing, or they are changing the layout. There is section on the top on the ROG Ally where it says My Apps, maybe you can have access to Steam from there.


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From the showcase trailer:

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Buggy Loop said:
They don't have FSR 4, the chipsets with RDNA 3.5 are already out on other devices including zen laptops.

To me any of these PC handhelds without FSR4 is currently a waste of time, its imminent that one does with RDNA 4 GPU.
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lol wait no FSR 4 at least ?

heh lol hard pass. even the Switch 2 which is probably half the price of this has a superior upscaler to clean the image.

FSR3.x sucks.
 
MacReady13 said:
Are they looking after us console owners who have actually purchased games on their consoles? I have over 700 games on my Series X going from the original Xbox CONSOLE through to the 360 CONSOLE, Xbox One CONSOLE and now the Series X CONSOLE (remember what consoles are Microsoft? They are how you got into the gaming space you're in today) so will I be able to play all those games on this handheld PC? Or will it only allow me to play the roughly 90 games it transfers across onto my Windows PC Xbox store? Meaning I lose over 600 games I've paid for...
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They are going to replace 30 million Xbox Series users with 2 million Xbox Ally users (at best)! 😂😂😂

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Parazels said:
This thing will be literally twice as expensive as Switch 2 yet less optimized.
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well yes. it's a PC and can't be subsidised through game sales. and it also is about twice as powerful.

and optimisation will of course be not really a thing, since it plays PC games. but it has decent hardware and should have zero issue playing basically every current gen game at decent settings. worst case is you have to play at 30fps or use FSR/XeSS... but they will run for sure.

similar hardware that I had hands-on time with had no issue running Spider-Man with raytracing at ~40fps for example... 60+ fps if you wanna run at 540p with FSR2/3 or XeSS reconstructed to 1080p


Parazels said:
By normal console standards it's dead on arrival. Let's be realistic.
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well, it's a PC, and not really competing with consoles and is also probably not really targeting console users, but instead PC users that want a portable alternative to play their games on, either in bed, on the sofa or on the go... maybe even as a small PC to connect to a living room TV (plenty of USB docks would allow that)
 
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So it's the same thing but probably slower because of all the bloat they'll put on top of windows 11. Disappointing dog shit.
 
MacReady13 said:
Are they looking after us console owners who have actually purchased games on their consoles? I have over 700 games on my Series X going from the original Xbox CONSOLE through to the 360 CONSOLE, Xbox One CONSOLE and now the Series X CONSOLE (remember what consoles are Microsoft? They are how you got into the gaming space you're in today) so will I be able to play all those games on this handheld PC? Or will it only allow me to play the roughly 90 games it transfers across onto my Windows PC Xbox store? Meaning I lose over 600 games I've paid for...
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As of now it seems like you are screwed. Going forward they are beefing up play anywhere but will they go back and support it for a lot of these games? I doubt it.
 
kevboard said:
in game mode basically all unnecessary Windows processes get stopped, that includes the entire Windows desktop environment even it seems. so performance should be way better than on default Windows.
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this sounds fucking insane. Microsoft is normally retarded but they better not be retarded enough not to bring this to PC unless they want SteamOS to eat their market share
 
64gigabyteram said:
this sounds fucking insane. Microsoft is normally retarded but they better not be retarded enough not to bring this to PC unless they want SteamOS to eat their market share
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I could see them bringing this to at least other handhelds... but given that it's windows, I kinda bet there will be unofficial ISOs of it online soon after these handhelds are out.
 
I don't understand big corpos at all. Unless I'm mistaken they didn't use hall sensor analogues, AGAIN. Even much cheaper products are using it, come on.

And IPS screen. At least put OLED screen on Ally X one. This one is maybe not feasable but nonetheless, it would bring lots of people to this product.
 
I think now we have a consensus about what their new home console will look like.

So many speculations have been circulating here for months...
 
hououinkyouma00 said:
PC Gaming in general is gaudy as fuck (this has almost always been a thing. I remember people having acrylic PC cases with light strips inside of them when I was a kid) with RGB fucking everywhere and ugly ass fucking cases that either look like cyborgs or fish tanks. There are obviously exceptions as Lian Li, and Fractal the it comes to cases but even stuff like monitors have become edgy and ugly as fuck.
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black, simple small SFF/MiniITX boxes are the only way I know a PC builder has taste. anything else looks fucked up.

Used to love these types of flashy RGB computers when I was 10, but nowadays.... gimme this instead
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