Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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brandonh83 said:
gamergirly
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The_Technomancer said:
Forget that. Gotta avoid the trap
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Question: Do people actually think this game has great graphics? I'm all for art style and believe it can go a long way to make a game look great, but this game is just downright ugly if you ask me.
creid
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Huh? You point the remote, and move it around until it's pointing at what you want to point at. What does it matter if it uses infrared or Motion Plus? From what I can tell the reviewer knew how to target, which is all that matters.GregLombardi said:
I don't buy that. I'd say, with the majority of games that I play, my initial impressions are a lot more positive than my final impressions, after 40 hours or so. Admittedly, I'm not clear on the specifics, but if his "pre" writeup was published, say, the day before the review was published, that's a different story.
I don't think this or the MGS example are apt comparisons. Again, I think he knew how to target - he just didn't realize that infrared didn't factor in.Jocchan said:
Fake edit: I'm now rereading the passage in question, and it sounds like I was a little off:
It's unclear whether it would've made a difference if he wasn't trying to point it at the screen, but given the regularity of recalibrations I experienced in my time with Wii Sports Resort, I wouldn't discount the possibility that this would've happened anyway.
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If you want a good answer then you need to elaborate? Do you not like the art? Do you think its technically deficient? What parts of it do you find ugly?Represent. said:
â Narayan
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7.5? lol
Anyone who thinks they didn't do that for clicks is getting trolled as intended. I rate this troll a 10/10.
Anyone who thinks they didn't do that for clicks is getting trolled as intended. I rate this troll a 10/10.
JordanLMiller
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plank said:
I wouldn't.
Cygnus X-1
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Represent. said:
If you read my post above: I have mixed feelings. Some places looks as great as Galaxy 2, while some others reminds me of the first village of Twilight Princess, textures-wise.
Said otherwise: where art design and color palette is heavily used, one can't notice anything and it looks impressive. On the other hands, some environments (for example, temples with no vegetation or symbols) are very blocky and that's definitely inexcusable.
Glass Rebel
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Represent. said:
Playing it on a TV I think it looks fantastic.
brandonh83
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Saint Gregory said:
I don't know if that's good or bad! Anyway just trying to have a little fun with it.
SonicMegaDrive
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wow, teh first bad Zelda game.
the series had a good run at least...
the series had a good run at least...
Regulus Tera
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We need a ranking of your favourite Zeldas for full shitstorm.Killer said:
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Phantom HourglassSonicMegaDrive said:
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Zelda 2SonicMegaDrive said:
crazy monkey
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the reviews should not have score but
Buy now
Buy later
Rent
Avoid
kind of ratings.
Buy now
Buy later
Rent
Avoid
kind of ratings.
This link has been posted. http://uk.gamespot.com/features/reality-check-the-dangers-of-gimmick-gaming-6319890/
I might have missed something from it but I don't see how the above article shows this guy to be against motion controlls or against Nintendo. In hindsight he might even be correct about A) Games being more important B) the ability to inovvate becoming harder and things like 3DS not bringing much more customers in just because it can have 3D and its feature being a gimmick C) On Nintendo's press conference and how it was handled. I do see personally bigger potential in the Wii-U than he did but I don't see how the above article shows him in any way to be a Nintendo hater. Remember, having concerns or even disagreements does not make you a hater.
I might had been careless so if there is anything in the above that indeed shows him to be against motion controls or a Nintendo hater, show it.
I might have missed something from it but I don't see how the above article shows this guy to be against motion controlls or against Nintendo. In hindsight he might even be correct about A) Games being more important B) the ability to inovvate becoming harder and things like 3DS not bringing much more customers in just because it can have 3D and its feature being a gimmick C) On Nintendo's press conference and how it was handled. I do see personally bigger potential in the Wii-U than he did but I don't see how the above article shows him in any way to be a Nintendo hater. Remember, having concerns or even disagreements does not make you a hater.
I might had been careless so if there is anything in the above that indeed shows him to be against motion controls or a Nintendo hater, show it.
Gaming was so much more fun when I didn't stop to excessively pre-evaluate the experiences I was going to have into an exacting quantification. Our necessity to rely on such values stems from the very essence of who most of us were before we came to GAF, OCD-level hobbyists. For the first world society has pushed us to the social margin, and we must find something minuscule and make it grand for it in turn to feel important. Therein once a stated gold standard has been built: 100%, 10/10, A+, and our community formed, it is no wonder that we return to the problem at hand: ourselves. Once again, finding something minuscule and making it grand, when being different/average is perfectly fine. Can gaming ever be elevated to art if we are constantly seeking to quantify its experiences? Does the best movie win best picture every year at the Oscars? Hell no. Were music greats like Bob Dylan ever deterred by mediocre album reviews? Who cares. Things are good in themselves, and time will dictate greatness. It surely has for OoT. Having overreacted to the scores for Skyward Sword, I find it best to disregard the hard-numbered periphery of the community and enjoy it for what I expect it to be: fun. If we can even remember it in 25 years, it'll surely be a masterpiece then. Just saying.
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Dragon said:
I thought it wasn't that hot looking from trailers until I played it myself. Like with lots of Wii games.
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butter_stick said:
RaySpencer
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crazy monkey said:
It will just get changed too:
100
75
50
25
or something similar on Metacritic anyway.
Smash88 said:
Indeed.
Gamespot's forums are the worst gaming forums on the internet. I posted there while I waited for my GAF account to be approved, and those forums are a complete joke. There's really only 2 active forums there; System WArs (which lives up to its name: Constant Trolling, no real gaming discussion) and Off Topic (which is lame due to the PG-13 rules there). Quite literally the worst gaming forums out there.
Oh and the site is glitchy as fuck. YOUR HTML IS NOT WELL FORMED. :lol
Steve Youngblood
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Well, I kind of agree that unneeded granularity adds extra bits of silliness wherein people dissect single digit percentage points as though it actually matters. However, I also think that this kind of suggestion misses the mark. The problem has less to do with the scale employed, and more to do with the unnecessary importance placed on the spectacle that is futilely attempting to objectify quality while simultaneously pretending that these efforts are more important than they actually are.crazy monkey said:
Specifically, your metric -- everything else equal -- just means that we're not complaining that the reviewer called it a "buy later" instead of a "buy now," or even worse he/she had the audacity to proclaim it a lowly "rent."
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Well yeah, the artstyle doesn't stand out for me. I look at SMG, Kirby, Rayman, Murmasa (or whatever its called) and I see great art. Those games managed to amaze me even on limited Wii hardware... When I look at Zelda, I'm not drawn to the art style, its not something I look at right away and say "that looks DOPE". I just see it as a bad looking game. Everything from the textures to the character models are just bad to me. Then again I haven't played it I'm just going by what I've seen.The_Technomancer said:
F#A#Oo said:
That is not hate. Skepticism or fear or even criticism are different than hate. The whole article has him praising Nintendo on parts and showing skepticism on some newer moves based on some reasons he offers.
I think in regards to 3DS the man was actually even right.
Also take in mind Nintendo's press conference and the messages it send to people. I think he is also right on regards that Nintendo should have tried to advertise more its games rather than a controller for example.
Reuenthal said:
Ofcourse it is...in 2 sentences he says Nintendo doesn't make or strive to make good games anymore...and all it's interested in is being different for the sake of being different.
btw the article is not just about Wii U it's a clear swipe at Nintendo's direction in general...
MisterHero
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No, I meant it.hardcastlemccormick said:
I can understand that certain reviewers have their quirks, but especially after reviews, readers discern between newsgroups, rather than seperate writers under the same group. Maybe it's not the most authoratative anecdote, but I follow some websites for months, absorb their previews and expect some consistency between previews and reviews (the latter ends up representing the entire website, after all). I read multiple websites for opinions.
For me the reviews can be disappointing because this game is from the same group as those who worked on Super Mario Galaxy 1+2 (Nintendo's current top studio).
Zelda games come with all sorts of variety between installments and much more care in development, much more than most games, but it's like no actual Zelda game will ever be enough*. It's kinda depressing for people who just want to enjoy the game.
*I love Wind Waker, but I can't believe that SS, among other Zeldas, is a lesser game.