LiquidSolid
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The commonly accepted industry definition for a term no-one in the industry uses and even its wiki entry refers to it as a colloquial term used by the media and fans? Shu had never even heard of the term when it was brought up in an interview and Phil Spencer doesn't use it either.It's not "my definition", it's the commonly accepted industry definition. Nioh and Rise of the Tomb Raider aren't second party because the games weren't developed under contract. They were either published or marketed with contractual limitations, but it wasn't a work for hire initiated by signing a contact with the platform vendor. Nioh had been in development forever, and Rise of the Tomb Raider was started long before any console release was pinned down.
When I was growing up, second party was used to refer to independent developers who worked exclusively with a first party. So Rare and Factor 5 were Nintendo second parties, Insomniac and Naughty Dog (before the buyout) were Sony second parties and so on.
I dunno. Looks like CDPR and Guerilla Games built a friendship. I can imagine that PlayStation will deal a marketing deal with them
You mean the tweets they shared between the two studios around Horizon's release? Or is there something else?
Regardless, Guerrilla Games isn't Sony's third party relations group, so that's a bit of a leap you're taking. A lot of devs are friends with one another. Naughty Dog invited Remedy to their studio while Remedy were still working on Quantum Break for example.