Spring Anime 2012 III | AITAKATTA YES!

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cajunator said:
Its one of the DVD's in my collection that I watch way too much. I don't know why I like it so much. that one and Armitage the III.
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I could have added this to my RightStuf order to top off my manga/novel purchase today for free shipping. There's a double-pack that packages Plastic Little and Burn Up, but I doubt the remaining 128 copies will be selling out soon.
 
Dead Bros in the Area

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Fuck this show. I really do want to give it the benefit of the doubt... like maybe this is some Buddhist/Shinto allegory and that it's the Japanese equivalent of a shitty episode of Touched by an Angel or some other BS Christian allegory thing that's a dime a dozen on American TV, but holy christ.

The fact that the manga is an on-going concern leads me to believe that Japanese readers think this is perfectly normal and fine, so maybe this is like one of those Happy Science things and people just believe in dead brothers taking over people's bodies.

God, I hope the anime is done soon so I can put this to bed and pretend it was the Adachi-like show that it should have been. Or maybe I'll just pretend the show was about Seven playing women's soccer and that all the other stuff didn't exist.
 
So I'm ploughing through my FMA boxset (of manga) and it's just... really goddamn good. Seriously.

Still, I have maybe one thing I'd like to change (besides maybe moving things around to spend more time on some characters like Hughes, Tucker and his daughter, etc)... King Bradley.

I wish Arakawa hadn't revealed he was a full-fledged homonculus nearly straight off the bat. Would've leant more tension to a whole bunch of the proceedings, not being sure whose side the Fuhrer was on, etc. I know it might have screwed up some stuff like the "Ultimate Eye" reveal and whatever, but I think you could probably have gotten away with a whole bunch of things without directly revealing his identity until way later.

But hey, whatever.
 
Ice Lightning said:
I could have added this to my RightStuf order to top off my manga/novel purchase today for free shipping. There's a double-pack that packages Plastic Little and Burn Up, but I doubt the remaining 128 copies will be selling out soon.
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Plastic Little + Burn Up is a GREAT combination. go for it! Get Burn Up W while you're at it.

Chet Rippo said:
Sometimes I just don't understand you.
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Femmeworth is all about the classy porn.
 
cajunator said:
Plastic Little + Burn Up is a GREAT combination. go for it! Get Burn Up W while you're at it.
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I just spent $100 on the Spice and Wolf novels and the Omamori Himari manga. I need to start my new job before I go on a random buying spree of series I have never viewed, but I will watch as the item counter slowly reduces.
 
Sengoku Collection 12

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By day she's an aloof megane working at the same convenience store that's home to the infamous melting human blob, but when night falls she turns into a hot blooded bike riding dispenser of justice knows as "The Saturday Night Rider". also something something yuri undertones
 
firehawk12 said:
Dead Bros in the Area

The fact that the manga is an on-going concern leads me to believe that Japanese readers think this is perfectly normal and fine, so maybe this is like one of those Happy Science things and people just believe in dead brothers taking over people's bodies.
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Did someone say Happy Science?
 
Area no Kishi 24
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An additional week waiting for this...and it was actually worth it. And they went differently then I thought.
Instead of Suguru just telling Kakeru what to do, he actually took control of the body while Kakeru watch and then took inspiration from what Suguru said and did his own thing, of course with influence
I think it was interesting how there were essentially two camps, ones who dont believe in the theory and then the ones that do, like Leonardo Silva who was pretty happy in numerous shots.

I liked epic Kakeru, those smirks, lol.
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In the end I think it all worked well, got my wish satisfied, more Suguru, and actually a challenging game that isnt a cakewalk too.

Next week being the final battle...I wonder if this anime is really ending next week or the week after at 25/26 episodes.
 
Dedication Through Light said:
Area no Kishi 24
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An additional waiting for this...and it was actually worth it. And they went differently then I thought.
Instead of Suguru just telling Kakeru what to do, he actually took control of the body while Kakeru watch and then took inspiration from what Suguru said and did his own thing, of course with influence
I think it was interesting how there were essentially two camps, ones who dont believe in the theory and then the ones that do, like Leonardo Silva who was pretty happy in numerous shots.
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So the two of them can communicate now? I'm really glad I dropped the anime around the 6th episode.
 
survivor said:
So the two of them can communicate now? I'm really glad I dropped the anime around the 6th episode.
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I guess DTL doesn't mind, because it's fucking insane to me that this is being treated as something serious. That characters in the show believe that the dead brother is playing through Kakeru at that point makes me rage so hard because no real, intelligent human being believes that angels, ghosts, dead bros, whatever, actually exist.

It's worse than the stupidly insane basketball in Kuroko. :p
 
firehawk12 said:
I guess DTL doesn't mind, because it's fucking insane to me that this is being treated as something serious. That characters in the show believe that the dead brother is playing through Kakeru at that point makes me rage so hard because no real, intelligent human being believes that angels, ghosts, dead bros, whatever, actually exist.

It's worse than the stupidly insane basketball in Kuroko. :p
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Even worse than Indoctrination theory?
 
BluWacky said:
It's interesting looking at these screencaps because I haven't seen that far in Tsuritama yet and I actually feel something almost "opposite" to your opinion based on what I've seen (only the first couple of episodes).

From the very first trailer the colours have "confused" me slightly in that the backgrounds are painted with what I think of as "character art" colours. It's like I'm expecting the whole thing to move at any given time, like in the excellent OP to Welcome to the NHK.

I agree that everything is very bright, but it also creates a very homogenous style in a slightly negative sense - for my tastes there's not enough contrast, to be honest. It's like the whole show is one big, bright, perky thing - and although that's admirable, I'm not sure it's necessarily my cup of tea. That partly extends to the characters, although having not watched enough of the show I don't think I can assess those fairly.
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I actually appreciate Tsuritama's visual style in this regard. Most anime has a divide between the characters and other "moving parts" and the background art, a divide which I occasionally find troublesome. It's as if two separate planes of existence are clashing together. So I appreciate that Tsuritama has everything looking like it exists on the same plane, in the same world; the characters aren't superimposed on top of paintings. The flat style that results from the bold color scheme is one I find rather attractive, and reminds me of Mononoke. In a more three-dimensional fashion, Wandering Son is another show I appreciate for making it look like the characters are a part of the same world as everything else.

firehawk12 said:
Dead Bros in the Area

Fuck this show. I really do want to give it the benefit of the doubt... like maybe this is some Buddhist/Shinto allegory and that it's the Japanese equivalent of a shitty episode of Touched by an Angel or some other BS Christian allegory thing that's a dime a dozen on American TV, but holy christ.

The fact that the manga is an on-going concern leads me to believe that Japanese readers think this is perfectly normal and fine, so maybe this is like one of those Happy Science things and people just believe in dead brothers taking over people's bodies.

God, I hope the anime is done soon so I can put this to bed and pretend it was the Adachi-like show that it should have been. Or maybe I'll just pretend the show was about Seven playing women's soccer and that all the other stuff didn't exist.
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It can be done whenever you say it is. If you hate it yet continue to watch it, there's clearly a problem!

As far as the concept of possession by a spirit goes, I don't think there's a problem with it in the abstract. I haven't seen it, but I recall that there's an earlier anime, Le Chevalier D'Eon, set in 18th century France in which the titular character is at times possessed by the ghost of his dead sister as he investigates her killers. I think the big issue with how I've seen it presented in Knight in the Area is the attempt to give the possession some pseudo-scientific explanation with the heart transplant, which makes it come off as nonsensical. Of course, there's also the general problem I noticed in the two episodes I watched that the entire execution - direction, art, animation, etc. - is too poor to take any kind of drama seriously.

Also, I don't think you're using the word "allegory" properly. Allegory is a simple means of symbolic narrative where A stands in for B; e.g. a river stands in for death. I'm not sure what A and B would be in your usage.

firehawk12 said:
I guess DTL doesn't mind, because it's fucking insane to me that this is being treated as something serious. That characters in the show believe that the dead brother is playing through Kakeru at that point makes me rage so hard because no real, intelligent human being believes that angels, ghosts, dead bros, whatever, actually exist.
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OK, putting aside Knight in the Area, as a Christian I find this comment offensive. Are you really trying to imply that anyone who believes in the existence of the supernatural is an idiot? I really hope that's not what you mean.
 
Haiyore! Nyaruko-san 11

So Mahiro is a pedo? That really explains everything that has happened so far

firehawk12 said:
I guess DTL doesn't mind, because it's fucking insane to me that this is being treated as something serious. That characters in the show believe that the dead brother is playing through Kakeru at that point makes me rage so hard because no real, intelligent human being believes that angels, ghosts, dead bros, whatever, actually exist.

It's worse than the stupidly insane basketball in Kuroko. :p
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Is he the only one with these supernatural powers or do future players have their own shtick?
 
Shining Hearts episode 11

This show is so FUNNY.
I can't save the island now...I need to make BREAD. And...Rick's bread is so awesome that it's a power up.

Natsuiro Kiseki episode 11

My body is not ready for the next episode. MANYLY TEARS WILL FLOW.
 
Ultimadrago said:
Even worse than Indoctrination theory?
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That's a close one. :p

hosannainexcelsis said:
It can be done whenever you say it is. If you hate it yet continue to watch it, there's clearly a problem!

As far as the concept of possession by a spirit goes, I don't think there's a problem with it in the abstract. I haven't seen it, but I recall that there's an earlier anime, Le Chevalier D'Eon, set in 18th century France in which the titular character is at times possessed by the ghost of his dead sister as he investigates her killers. I think the big issue with how I've seen it presented in Knight in the Area is the attempt to give the possession some pseudo-scientific explanation with the heart transplant, which makes it come off as nonsensical. Of course, there's also the general problem I noticed in the two episodes I watched that the entire execution - direction, art, animation, etc. - is too poor to take any kind of drama seriously.
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It's like with the basketball show. Don't try to get your audience to believe that your world is anything that resembles reality and then pull of wacky shit that makes people question the very rules of the universe that you are creating.

I have no problem accepting that characters in Saki have near magical powers (and in the case of one character, the actual ability to see into the future), because Saki doesn't want you to believe that any of that stuff can happen in reality. It's a cartoon world with cartoon rules.

Also, I don't think you're using the word "allegory" properly. Allegory is a simple means of symbolic narrative where A stands in for B; e.g. a river stands in for death. I'm not sure what A and B would be in your usage.
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In fiction where angels aren't literally angels, they are allegories for some bigger theme that may relate to the religion in general or to abstract ideas such as "faith".

OK, putting aside Knight in the Area, as a Christian I find this comment offensive. Are you really trying to imply that anyone who believes in the existence of the supernatural is an idiot? I really hope that's not what you mean.
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I'm an agnostic that leans toward the atheist side (sceptical atheist? or whatever Neil Degrass Tyson likes to call himself), so this can only end in tears/bannings. lol
I'll just take the initiative and apologize, because I was still raging hard off the episode, but I genuinely think that most rational people - religious or not - wouldn't automatically assume that some guy's dead brother somehow came back to life and possessed a guy's body.

(sceptical atheist joke: I believe Jesus walked on water. I just think it was frozen at the time).

survivor said:
Is he the only one with these supernatural powers or do future players have their own shtick?
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Nope, he's the only one with dead brother powers. :p

Femmeworth said:
Seeing religion mentioned in this thread feels so weird.
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Despite being surrounded by Buddhists, the only thing I really know about the religion is the whole reincarnation thing. That's the only hook I have for the show that justifies the storyline because alternatively, it really is just Happy Science insanity.
 
firehawk12 said:
Despite being surrounded by Buddhists, the only thing I really know about the religion is the whole reincarnation thing. That's the only hook I have for the show that justifies the storyline because alternatively, it really is just Happy Science insanity.
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Being surrounded by Christians is far wo- *notices hosannainexcelsis* :x Well, it's more accurate to say I'm surrounded by social conservatives.
 
firehawk12 said:
It's like with the basketball show. Don't try to get your audience to believe that your world is anything that resembles reality and then pull of wacky shit that makes people question the very rules of the universe that you are creating.

I have no problem accepting that characters in Saki have near magical powers (and in the case of one character, the actual ability to see into the future), because Saki doesn't want you to believe that any of that stuff can happen in reality. It's a cartoon world with cartoon rules.
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Certainly the most important thing in establishing any fictional world is internal coherency. At the same time, as a general rule I don't think that just because a narrative is set in a world that closely resembles our own means that we should judge it by the same rules with which we judge the "real world". A fictional setting can remain internally coherent even if it differs from how we experience our world in a few key areas; e.g., the film Magnolia.

(Note that these are general comments here, which are in no way meant to relate to Knight in the Area.)

In fiction where angels aren't literally angels, they are allegories for some bigger theme that may relate to the religion in general or to abstract ideas such as "faith".
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Why can't angels in fiction simply be angels? As an example, people often refer to C.S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia as an allegory when that is not the case: Aslan is not meant to represent Christ; he is meant to be Christ, imagined as he would appear to a different world.

I'm an agnostic that leans toward the atheist side (sceptical atheist? or whatever Neil Degrass Tyson likes to call himself), so this can only end in tears/bannings. lol
I'll just take the initiative and apologize, because I was still raging hard off the episode, but I genuinely think that most rational people - religious or not - wouldn't automatically assume that some guy's dead brother somehow came back to life and possessed a guy's body.
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I certainly don't intend to derail into a discussion for which this thread is not suited. My objection to your initial comment is simply that the automatic assumption that someone you disagree with must be irrational/unintelligent is not very conducive to sensible, thoughtful discussion.

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On a different note, I noticed that one of the characters in Junichi Sato's upcoming Honda-sponsored OVA One Off is going to be played by Yuu Kobayashi. I assume this will now be your most anticipated project?
 
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