It's not just her, though. The show goes to great lengths to include nude scenes of virtually every female character. Which is quite creepy because most of them are considerably underaged, as well as being victims of abuse from parental figures.
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It's not just her, though. The show goes to great lengths to include nude scenes of virtually every female character. Which is quite creepy because most of them are considerably underaged, as well as being victims of abuse from parental figures.
I haven't seen the series, but this sounds like something that almost certainly had to be creepily sexualized to all hell and back.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Smile Precure 02
Smug wolf gonna smug.
Love Cure Sunny, she's moe blooded. Akane is pretty spiffy herself, I love the sporty girls and she's got an Osaka accent on top of it.
I really like how the enemy adapts to the scenery and themes of the episode, it really wasn't that noticeable in the first episode but its pretty obvious this week when its a
.
It's pretty interesting early on how the show had to build up Miyuki as weak but gaining enough power to win her first battle in the episode and then tear her back down again to where she is so weak that she needs help to win her second battle against the same enemy from last ep. Its a bit convoluted but the show pulled it off well enough by explaining how she used up all her spirit. But I really hope this isn't the route they take for introducing all the Precures, I'm assuming they will be introduced one at a time in one episode after anther till they are all together.
But the transformation scenes and the battle outfits are solid stuff too. It's very noticeable and detailed but they aren't totally over the top and ridiculous. The big attacks by the girls are hilarious, not sure if I enjoy the
or the
more.
The opening for the show is quite catchy too. The ending is utterly horrific but that seems to be a theme with Precure shows.
Smug wolf gonna smug.
Love Cure Sunny, she's moe blooded. Akane is pretty spiffy herself, I love the sporty girls and she's got an Osaka accent on top of it.
I really like how the enemy adapts to the scenery and themes of the episode, it really wasn't that noticeable in the first episode but its pretty obvious this week when its a
giant volleyball
It's pretty interesting early on how the show had to build up Miyuki as weak but gaining enough power to win her first battle in the episode and then tear her back down again to where she is so weak that she needs help to win her second battle against the same enemy from last ep. Its a bit convoluted but the show pulled it off well enough by explaining how she used up all her spirit. But I really hope this isn't the route they take for introducing all the Precures, I'm assuming they will be introduced one at a time in one episode after anther till they are all together.
But the transformation scenes and the battle outfits are solid stuff too. It's very noticeable and detailed but they aren't totally over the top and ridiculous. The big attacks by the girls are hilarious, not sure if I enjoy the
flaming volleyball spike
heart shaped kamehameha
The opening for the show is quite catchy too. The ending is utterly horrific but that seems to be a theme with Precure shows.
It sounds like you haven't finished suffering yet.
Crash Station
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Sexualized isn't always a bad thing for the narrative. In this case, it's vital to the plot in the same way the sex scenes in something like Saya no Uta are.
Crash Station
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When the character in question has invisible hands that eviscerate people, I think it's fine. Dicloni are considered a different species from humans anyway, so who's to say that's not how amnesia works for them?
*adds to list*
First thing I watch after I'm caught up with my weeklies.
Should any plot involving gratuitously naked nubile adolescent girls with the minds of infants even exist? I think that there's an underlying issue here.
a superior species being effected in that way makes even less sense to me
InsaneZero
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The route that the anime is based off of is essentially a really long introduction to the premise and the cast. The final route, Heaven's Feel is the route that Fate/Zero derives most of its themes and characterization from, except for Saber. Coincidentally, the final route of FSN is also the route where the war goes to hell in a handbasket pretty fast and most closely matches the tone of Fate/Zero.
Chet Rippo
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Yes.
Jex
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I feel like you've thought about explaining that on a level far beyond the original writer and you're filling in massive blanks. I imagine that, when he wrote that he was like "It's okay because love conquers all".
It'd go over better if his helpful-to-a-fault attitude wasn't glossed over in three boring scenes and the "I don't want others to suffer on my account" stuff didn't mostly involve Saber alone. Sexist? Yeah but it seems largely unintentional. I think they ended up talking it out and he's gotten away from it some.
Sounds just like what I wanted.
Crash Station
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Why? The sexualization is definitely not there to give you boners unless you're into heads flying everywhere while a naked chick walks toward you with a horrifying stoic look on her face. It's there for other reasons. For Lucy, it's to show she doesn't give a shit, for Nyuu, it's to show she's basically a child, for the other dicloni, it's to show they're kept in terrible conditions which is only exacerbating the problem, for Mayu, it's to show how shitty her life is.
Edit: Yeah, I'm using the wrong term here. They aren't sexualized, they're just naked.
Trojita
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Accel World 1-5
The show is pretty good. I like the battle backgrounds they've added.
I find it funny that no one gave a shit about the series until the anime came out. I think the manga was only fan translated up to the point where he meets the helper person in the cafe (which is the next episode).
Also HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG at this
The show is pretty good. I like the battle backgrounds they've added.
I find it funny that no one gave a shit about the series until the anime came out. I think the manga was only fan translated up to the point where he meets the helper person in the cafe (which is the next episode).
Also HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG at this
Jex
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You know that you should add it to your list!
Sometimes children just have to be sexualised, for the narrative.
What? That's beyond a dangerous argument, that's crazy. At least, in the way that Elfin Lied does it, which is straight up exploitative.
Thats how it came across to me.
The diclopnius werent sexualized at all. They were naked but there were never any camera shots of the sort exploiting that fact. It was presented matter-of-factly. They're naked, and they are killing machines.
Really, Elfen Lied has one thing going for it, the OP and its associated theme. I think that feature alone has misleadingly influenced scores of people into believing the show is actually classy and thoughtful.
"What do you mean the show is creepy? No show which references a famous painting and utilizes latin chanting can be creepy."
"What do you mean the show is creepy? No show which references a famous painting and utilizes latin chanting can be creepy."
Crash Station
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After Nononono, I do think Okamoto has some grasp on psychology. But hey, maybe you're right.
I don't even know why I'm doing this. I hate literary analysis and think 99.9% of the time it's pointless.
Jex
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Well, it sounds like the anime is doing its job then. Advertising the manga is always helpful!
So, if I watch Kodomo no Jikan and can retroactively find a good argument for whatever happens in the show, everything's copacetic?
Interesting strategy.
This sounds like an amazing tagline. For what, exactly, I don't know.
Smile Precure 02
Smug wolf gonna smug.
Love Cure Sunny, she's moe blooded. Akane is pretty spiffy herself, I love the sporty girls and she's got an Osaka accent on top of it.
I really like how the enemy adapts to the scenery and themes of the episode, it really wasn't that noticeable in the first episode but its pretty obvious this week when its a.giant volleyball
It's pretty interesting early on how the show had to build up Miyuki as weak but gaining enough power to win her first battle in the episode and then tear her back down again to where she is so weak that she needs help to win her second battle against the same enemy from last ep. Its a bit convoluted but the show pulled it off well enough by explaining how she used up all her spirit. But I really hope this isn't the route they take for introducing all the Precures, I'm assuming they will be introduced one at a time in one episode after anther till they are all together.
But the transformation scenes and the battle outfits are solid stuff too. It's very noticeable and detailed but they aren't totally over the top and ridiculous. The big attacks by the girls are hilarious, not sure if I enjoy theor theflaming volleyball spikemore.heart shaped kamehameha
The opening for the show is quite catchy too. The ending is utterly horrific but that seems to be a theme with Precure shows.
That wolf dude and Cure Sunny will eventually compel me to watch this.
KNJ is very different from Elfen Lied. KNJ sexualizes a little girl. elfen Lied does not.
Only the recent ones. Futari wa Precure's ending is less than horrific.
Crash Station
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Light Novel.
That's exactly why it's there.
That's exactly what the creators of the story are into.
I'm fairly sure there are ways to depict that that don't involve excessive amounts of underage nudity.
Is the nudity in Elfen Lied by necessity? Is there literally no other way for the story to be told without it?
edited for shit otaku say
Crash Station
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It's pretty damn important for at least a few characters, because it's a subtle touch in shaping their personalities.
Well, obviously, we can't post examples in this thread, which is for the better. You'll see it for what it is when you watch it.
Accel World 1-5
The show is pretty good. I like the battle backgrounds they've added.
I find it funny that no one gave a shit about the series until the anime came out. I think the manga was only fan translated up to the point where he meets the helper person in the cafe (which is the next episode).
Also HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG at this
Looks like a penis under those sheets. How lewd.
I think it is for the sake of showing the dicloni as monsters and yet at the same time vulnerable. Also it would have been silly if they escaped from a lab wearing clothing. In the context of them being monsters borne from humankind, it did fit.
God damn it.
Trojita
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
A Black Falcon
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I don't think that it's there only for sexualization, no. There is more to it than that.
Agreed.
Yeah, I think this is right.
Crash Station
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Yeah, "vulnerable" is the word I kept trying to think of!
Chet Rippo
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That's one large penis then...
How old is the crazy loli? She's not one of those old-but-looks-young types?
Supermassive upgrade.
Supermassive upgrade.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Childhood friend is best girl. She's the only one who isn't fucking crazy.
Dresden: She's an elementary school student, iirc. Cartman is a fucking pedophile.
Unknown Soldier
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She's actually a futa!
its all in the hips
Crash Station
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13. Tried to pass herself off as 10 first though.
Well, that's the point. The show is sexualizing vulnerability.
k-on is sexualizing non-sexuality
Chet Rippo
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Why would you pretend to be 10 years old...?
She must have wanted to pay less on the bus.
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