I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick of Huttball. It's all I ever did on my other server. Literally never saw any other BG. I think I fought Republic in Huttball maybe once?
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Star Wars: The Old Republic |OT| EA: "Let's blow this thing and go home!"
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I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sick of Huttball. It's all I ever did on my other server. Literally never saw any other BG. I think I fought Republic in Huttball maybe once?
oooh shit my server.
razgriz417
Member
It makes absolutely no sense that there is no spawn immunity, its like they didnt consider that turrets could be destroyed or something...
BattleMonkey
Member
Plus side of Rep is you get extremely fast Warzone queues. You also get less Huttball so if your sick of it, then switching to Rep might make you happy. Lot of people like Huttball though, but yea as an imp you probably are sick of it.
CAW
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How is the game at level 50 for someone who isn't really interested in PvP or Operations (right now anyway)? I mean, I know that doesn't leave room for much but could I jump in do dailies, work on crew skills, etc just so that char doesn't collect dust? And is that worth while?
Second question: AA doesn't work for me. ATI 6950. I've always had issues with ATI cards and Bioware games with their AA not working. Anyone else with an ATI card experiencing the same thing?
Second question: AA doesn't work for me. ATI 6950. I've always had issues with ATI cards and Bioware games with their AA not working. Anyone else with an ATI card experiencing the same thing?
cpp_is_king
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I honestly don't know if they can roll back valor from the technical side. I suspect that instead of rolling back valor, they will ban all the people that are exploiting this and take the server down within a few hours of this post.
We can argue about the merits of banning people based on exploitable oversights, but I don't know if there's a better option for them right now.
That's insane. If there's not a rollback, it would be even crazier.
Bwahahaha, just the thought would be awesome. It is obviously something...an exploit or whatever, but that would be ONE way to even out the factions a tiny bit. =)
If they do not rollback or do something about this, even I will have to consider bouncing. I'm not even a big PvPer (its fun though) but I hate the thought of Battlemasters running around without having earned it and my guildies suffering for it.
BattleMonkey
Member
Stuff should be caught on test server. They really need to do something to get more people on test and to let people just make high level characters to properly test the high end content. This stuff is going to keep happenin if they don't have enough people playing and testing this stuff out.
This is like the 5th Analyst that has claimed the cost of TOR. Patcher put it at 80 million, another 100 mil, 300 mil, and this one now saying 500 mil.
A bigger portion of that half billion should have went into game development instead of paying for expensive voice acting.
cpp_is_king
Member
Well, I hate to see anyone banned, even Imperials, because I know that feeling when you discover something like this and you just lose all sense of rationality and you just do it for the adrenaline rush. But there is really just no way BioWare is not going to do SOMETHING about this. And if they can't roll back, they are left with no choice but to ban.
I don't think banning is that unfair in this circumstance either. They banned for the exploit of selling partial stacks to vendor, and a credit exploit is much less of a problem than a permanent stat boosting exploit. I think the unwritten rule in every single MMO out there is that if you are exploiting a game mechanic that is the result of a developer oversight or bug, the exploit is game breaking, and the exploit is OBVIOUSLY non-intentional on the part of the developers, then it is a bannable offense. Igorance isn't really an excuse either, since I seriously doubt there is anyone who is already on Ilum that does not have quite a bit of MMO experience.
If they can't roll back, banning players for this would be bullshit, really. If I was a Imperial, I'd sure as hell be taking advantage of this right now. There probably is not going to be any rollbacks at all, and people that exploited this stupid shit because of developer incompetence, are not to blame.
Obviously, whether they ban/rollback or anything is another thing. Personally, if nothing happens by the end of the day, or if it's not even addressed by them, I'm done with this game.
Old news as the budget for the game has been known for years.
This is not true and never will be true about banning. These players KNOW they're doing something off and there is no way in hell they can possibly even think what they are doing is "working as intended."
The only thing they can do is to actually roll back the servers themselves to before the patch. The longer they wait, the less likely they will, as this effects everything that everyone has done.
The last number I saw was around 200mil, but I don't follow the business side of gaming very closely.
Am I only one who already lost interest in the game? I don't want to complain, I had so much faith, even if it is like WoW... But something's just wrong and I wonder what could possibly screw my game experience.
Might be the environment though. There's absolutely nothing special about the planets if you ask me (Tatooine was not bad), they all look the same (planes without big mountains or highs with some junk right and left).
Might be the environment though. There's absolutely nothing special about the planets if you ask me (Tatooine was not bad), they all look the same (planes without big mountains or highs with some junk right and left).
DurielBlack
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BattleMonkey
Member
No one knows the budget, it hasn't been officially given. Analysts are making guesses and so far they have been all over the place with them.
The problem is that I've never seen any incentive given for any other game that would actually work. Double xp is nice, but it's only limited to when you level, and it assumes that you don't care about the journey at all (since you'd miss out on tons of quests if they gave you that).
I think a start would be to give the Republic some extra cosmetic options or something really cool so that people would actually want to try them out. They could also imbalance the sides for a bit making republic more attractive to play but i doubt people would go for that, plus it would be heck of annoying when they would have to pull back after Reb side got flooded with all the min/maxers. Maybe extra credits or cheaper things would do it too, but since money seems to be no problem in the game thus far, I doubt it.
What they should have done is concentrated on the Republic side a bit more during development. The Republic side has the less interesting storylines, lamer starting planets and you also have to factor in people wanting to play "evil" for whatever reason.
I think a start would be to give the Republic some extra cosmetic options or something really cool so that people would actually want to try them out. They could also imbalance the sides for a bit making republic more attractive to play but i doubt people would go for that, plus it would be heck of annoying when they would have to pull back after Reb side got flooded with all the min/maxers. Maybe extra credits or cheaper things would do it too, but since money seems to be no problem in the game thus far, I doubt it.
What they should have done is concentrated on the Republic side a bit more during development. The Republic side has the less interesting storylines, lamer starting planets and you also have to factor in people wanting to play "evil" for whatever reason.
cpp_is_king
Member
This. Exploiting an OBVIOUS developer oversight with game breaking consequences is and has always been a bannable offense in every single MMO I know of.
FieryBalrog
Member
There may be too many people doing it. Unlike other exploits, this one doesn't require deliberate glitching of the system.
Yeah, Ilum is just an absolute mess. On my server there isn't enough empire around to do the turret killing and spawn camping, however we were still pretty much slaughtering any republic who came out of their base. You could still get quite a bit of valor doing that. I left eventually out of boredom. Since I'm melee I was pretty much just standing there while ranged people attacked people in their group until someone decided to use their pull to pull them into our pack. Not to mention it's hardly fun just outnumbering them. FPS continues to be horrible when a lot of people are around, too.
Same here.
Same here.
Basically this.
I just don't see Bioware doing anything about it, which is why I'm likely going to cancel today unless they address it. Idk. Anyways time for class, I'll check in later and see what happens.
Tallshortman
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They would just roll the entire server back if they couldn't do just valor. That or have hilariously unbalanced pvp for several months to a year with so many imps (soon) sporting battlemaster gear.
Jbird34
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Yeah they need to go ahead and shut it down and roll it back, PVP is gonna be bad enough as a Republic player but if the imps are decked out in full battle master gear after 30 mins then no one will pvp
TheDancingWatermelon
Member
I think letting them keep it will be far more devastating to the pvp community of the game then rolling it back and explaining the situation. They're going to get criticized for whatever they decision they choose to be honest, but I'd take the easier path. If I were in there shoes I'd take the hit from the small amount of people benefiting from this as opposed to letting them keep it and damaging the already tumultuous relationship they have with the PVP community.
Obviously I'm just playing "armchair developer," I have no clue how the technology they have implemented works and whether it would allow a roll back, but thats what I'm hoping for. Otherwise I think alot of people who are heavily invested in the PVP are going to be completely turned off and deflated by this.
BattleMonkey
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Illum is instanced too but if they restrict it too much then you will have to put a queue on entering the planet or your going to have a ton of instances of imps waiting for Rep players to show up.
Which part of this is not working as intended? Seriously. It's just a bad system. It's not a bug or an accident. BW is just incompetent.
Tallshortman
Member
It's part bug, part bad design. The bug makes it a lot worse because there's supposed to be diminishing returns for killing the same player or farming the turrets for valor (obviously this is not working). The amplifies the bad design of illum 10 fold to the point of game breaking.
cartoon_soldier
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lol at the Illum thing. The thing here is that with a few tweaks now, we can have actual open world pvP
But PvP was never the biggest deal for me. So I am still in.
But PvP was never the biggest deal for me. So I am still in.
TheDancingWatermelon
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Bioware fucking up or being "incompetent" is one thing, but you really think being able to kill turrets and reach max rank in pvp in very little time is "working as intended?" I'm not sure how your thinking this wasn't a bug or accident, seems pretty clear to me they fucked up. Berating them for letting this reach live is fair, and what action they'll take here I have no idea, but to say "working as intended?"
Well, in BioWare's mind, the game would be perfectly split between Republic and Empire. Ilum would be a place for honor-bound world PvP, and no one would ever complain because the system would be perfect. Everyone renews their subs because the game is so engrossing, and not at all like that other competing product.
That's their intention. Sadly, I don't think any part of the game is working as intended.
Off topic: I have no comment on the "competency" of BioWare, but I just wanted to say I'm so sick of this word. "Incompetent" has been thrown around on these boards at absolutely everyone for absolutely everything. Get a thesaurus or something!
FieryBalrog
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Inept? Unskilled? Clumsy? Maladroit?
Jbird34
Member
Yeah I mean it's not like it's their 1st MMO.... Oh wait
But seriously why waste your time posting in this thread if you can't stand Bioware or the game. Move onto greener pasture that you can troll easier
BattleMonkey
Member
Turning into the official forum in here. Time to write some TOR fan fiction
Hopped on to get my Ilum daily done as a republic. The server i'm on is not anything close to that video but it was a big group of Imps standing at our entrance and a group of us inside the base. Basically came down to someone getting a grab or stun off then backing off. Got my 30 kills/armaments and tried queuing up for a WZ but ended up not getting in after a few minutes. Got class in a bit so hopefully when I get back I can actually try out a WZ with only 50's.
Jbird34
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As T7 Followed me into the refresher the door slammed shut....
TheDancingWatermelon
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I'd like to put in a request for a story similar to that Arthas and Vette story posted a few days ago. Chapter 1: The Shock Collar was riveting.
BattleMonkey
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Tallshortman
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GAF: Home of droid-erotic star wars fan fiction
Jbird34
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For all I know he was gonna stab me to death for being a Dark Jedi, I like how gaf went straight to Eroticism lol