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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT2| GL HF GG
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slidewinder
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It's trying to decide whether to make an exception and bump you straight into Grandmaster.
Interesting article from TeamLiquid: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221896
'biggest and older rts in the region has talent draw over sc2'Keikaku said:
duh.
brood war pros have had the support system of years of dedicated rts practice, ofcourse they will be strong while the game is young. the shelflife is short though, emergent sc2 pros will ultimately suplant them. there will be a new flash and jaegong dominating sc2 before flash and jaedong are liable to switch and the bw versions will find themselves too far behind.
At the salary they're earning, I'd never switch to SC2 :lolKeikaku said:
But sure if they did switch, they'd probably own at first but at least the other players have the potential/chance to surpass them because SC2 is still growing. I mean it hasn't even been out for one year yet! I don't know much about the competitive scene for BW but I'm assuming that Blizzard won't make any future changes to it which means they pretty much know the game in and out. On the other hand, Blizzard can change SC2 at anytime. I mean imagine if roaches went back to costing only 1 food, how fucked up would that be? Total game changer.
Like I said, I just found it interesting.
I didn't play BW with any deal of regularity or with anything approaching competitiveness, so SC2 is my initiation into competitive RTS playing. I never followed the BW tournament scene at all either, so I don't really have any reference point for how the scene is supposed to develop.
That said, I definitely think that we'll see better play in the upcoming years and we have yet to see any player good enough to be proclaimed as SC2's Ultimate Weapon or anything. When that does happen though . . .
I didn't play BW with any deal of regularity or with anything approaching competitiveness, so SC2 is my initiation into competitive RTS playing. I never followed the BW tournament scene at all either, so I don't really have any reference point for how the scene is supposed to develop.
That said, I definitely think that we'll see better play in the upcoming years and we have yet to see any player good enough to be proclaimed as SC2's Ultimate Weapon or anything. When that does happen though . . .
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Interesting PvP i had. Actually lasted 40 mins, a first for me.
http://www.askcorran.com/PvP-ImmortalsZealotsvColossus.SC2Replay
Almost lost the game near the end because I let him remax with Colossus, but luckly he did not have an obs nearby and my DTs were able to snipe most of his colossus while I regrouped.
http://www.askcorran.com/PvP-ImmortalsZealotsvColossus.SC2Replay
Almost lost the game near the end because I let him remax with Colossus, but luckly he did not have an obs nearby and my DTs were able to snipe most of his colossus while I regrouped.
If you learn an opening in BW and can execute an attack correctly that is basically Diamond. BW is hard.Keikaku said:Like I said, I just found it interesting.
I didn't play BW with any deal of regularity or with anything approaching competitiveness, so SC2 is my initiation into competitive RTS playing. I never followed the BW tournament scene at all either, so I don't really have any reference point for how the scene is supposed to develop.
That said, I definitely think that we'll see better play in the upcoming years and we have yet to see any player good enough to be proclaimed as SC2's Ultimate Weapon or anything. When that does happen though . . .
I mean I thought I was amazing when I could attack with vultures and rally scv's at the same time from 2 base.
I want both to co-exist. SC II for foreign hype and innovation, BW for the masterpiece that it is.
Q8D3vil said:
Bah. It is not a binary thing like that. It is a long process, not just two expansions. But everything, every metagame shift, every tournament, every single piece of data examined and the game being adjusted between them.
It is like saying that for you to travel 300km, you need to pass the 100km, the 200km and the 300km marks. No, you need to pass all the road between
mescalineeyes
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Well it's not like we don't know SC 2 is a joke, especially compared to BW.
pieatorium
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I think his point about consistancy isn't totaly valid. Looking at all the GOM events 3 opens, 3 code S, Gom all stars, WC there has been 10 different finalists out of a possible 16 that doesn't look that consistant for sure but only the first GSL open finals hasn't included one of MC,MKP,MVP or Nestea.
Even looking at the US scene, Select, Idra, Kiwikaki and before he left Huk make up at least 2 out of every top 3 for every MLG and IPL except Dallas last year .
Not as up to how things are in EU sorry but it wouldn't suprise me if 3-4 guys make the finals in everything there either.
It's not the domination by 2 guys that BW has where 50% of finals involves both of them but these guys are always amongst it and the game is still developing.
Even looking at the US scene, Select, Idra, Kiwikaki and before he left Huk make up at least 2 out of every top 3 for every MLG and IPL except Dallas last year .
Not as up to how things are in EU sorry but it wouldn't suprise me if 3-4 guys make the finals in everything there either.
It's not the domination by 2 guys that BW has where 50% of finals involves both of them but these guys are always amongst it and the game is still developing.
prodystopian
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That article reminded me, what happened to Tester? Does he not play anymore?
prodystopian
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Hugoboss21 said:hes still in code S, not doing great but code S is pretty good
Nice! Oh, not nice...
mescalineeyes
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Pandaman said:
why stop there
yeah, I found it sorta interesting when Idra said that Roach/hydra is obsolete now. I guess he was referring to any sort of infestor play.
mescalineeyes
Banned
.... exactly?
mescalineeyes
Banned
twofold said:
still my favorite units to drop.
I loved StarCraft and Brood War, but I never played the game online for some reason. I remember playing 3-4 matches against a friend and really liking it, but I was still playing X-Wing/TIE Fighter games rather than Brood War online.
With StarCraft 2 I jumped into multiplayer pretty quickly after completing the campaign and I'm playing it pretty much daily now. I have no idea what changed in my attitude toward the multiplayer side of things, but I'm glad it did.
With StarCraft 2 I jumped into multiplayer pretty quickly after completing the campaign and I'm playing it pretty much daily now. I have no idea what changed in my attitude toward the multiplayer side of things, but I'm glad it did.
Keikaku said:
I'm not even sure what this article is saying. What about Boxer, Nada, Julyzerg, Choyya, Rainbow, etc etc?
So ur saying that if someone like Michael Jordan devoted all his time to Starcraft 2 we would have ourselves a real champion instead of scrublets like MVP and MC?? the fuck..
StopMakingSense
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nilbog21 said:
It does talk about them farther down.
StopMakingSense
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fanboi said:
Increased firing rate.
i wouldnt agree with that.a176 said:
most of the skills relevant to being top tier in brood war are utterly unimportant or replaced by automatic components in sc2.
sure jaedong can command 18 command groups of units, but sc2 wouldnt even reward that level of micromanagement all that much.
MidnightRider
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I had no idea what I was getting myself into....
At work... 2nd day in a row (since getting it) with no sleep due to this game.
I've got a few buddies from another forum showing me "4 gate" builds and what not as training.... THERE IS SOOOOOOOO MUCH TO LEARN WITH HOW TO CLICK AND WHAT NOT THAT IT'S BLOWING MY MIND TRYING TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
1 major problem though. My computer is bogging down to a crawl (13fps)
I have this exact computer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147097
Do yall know if a Radeon 5670 will work in it?
I've been over on consoles for so long I forgot what little computer knowledge I had.
Also downloaded Steam and thinking about picking Counter Strike Source.....
At work... 2nd day in a row (since getting it) with no sleep due to this game.
I've got a few buddies from another forum showing me "4 gate" builds and what not as training.... THERE IS SOOOOOOOO MUCH TO LEARN WITH HOW TO CLICK AND WHAT NOT THAT IT'S BLOWING MY MIND TRYING TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
1 major problem though. My computer is bogging down to a crawl (13fps)
I have this exact computer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147097
Do yall know if a Radeon 5670 will work in it?
I've been over on consoles for so long I forgot what little computer knowledge I had.
Also downloaded Steam and thinking about picking Counter Strike Source.....
mescalineeyes
Banned
V_Arnold said:Boo to that attitude, man
I am dabbling. I am not good enough yet.
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