JayK47
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Seeing this a lot lately. In particular on Microsoft games. So maybe a Microsoft requirement. Or if you want to play as a Borg.
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Pallas
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Gudji
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Gideon
Member
Where did they say there was no space exploration?
BlackTron
Member
From everything I'm reading, the game is kinda what you would expect. It's not the second-coming or anything, just another Bethesda title. Which unfortunately had a lot riding on it because of so many other game failures (like Halo) it was expected to be some Mario 64 grade event.
A lot of reviews read like "despite all these complaints, it's aight. NINETY" because it's an important game. One positive review said that if you put in the time and deal with this and that, you're rewarded with a generic space game...I was like WHAT. I can get a generic space RPG already without work!
It might be worth playing, but just as a game, not as the Messiah of Xbox or anything, I'm not getting that vibe from it
A lot of reviews read like "despite all these complaints, it's aight. NINETY" because it's an important game. One positive review said that if you put in the time and deal with this and that, you're rewarded with a generic space game...I was like WHAT. I can get a generic space RPG already without work!
It might be worth playing, but just as a game, not as the Messiah of Xbox or anything, I'm not getting that vibe from it
LordCBH
Member
I’ll chime in a bit. It doesn’t help anything for MS that a good portion of high budget titles they release get really don’t actually reach the scores they get. Halo Infinite is a good example. For a couple months it was a darling, but I would certainly argue it was scored about 20 points too high, and I said that immediately after playing the awful campaign for it.
For the record, I’m quite enjoying Starfield so far. I voted 90% plus because I assumed it would get inflated like Infinite did. Considering the amount of games from them over the years I’ve been excited for, only to be severely disappointed with, I’m quite happy with Starfield so far, but, based on what I’ve played so far, I’d have been happy regardless, even with its issues.
DaGwaphics
Member
The comparison is just completely irrelevant. To get a better idea of how pointless the comparison is, just look at NMS from the lens of how poor the RPG elements of the game are.
That's like taking a game like Mafia and comparing the driving mechanics to Forza or GT. The purpose of the game matters and obviously shifts the focus of the features provided.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Análisis de Starfield, un juego perdido en su universo
Analizamos Starfield, el nuevo trabajo de los creadores de The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim y Fallout 3 para Xbox Series X|S y PC.
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.5.8
Realmente no me lo esperaba.
Shocked me!!
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Lokaum D+
Member
Well i can say the same about Starfield RPG elements.The comparison is just completely irrelevant. To get a better idea of how pointless the comparison is, just look at NMS from the lens of how poor the RPG elements of the game are.
That's like taking a game like Mafia and comparing the driving mechanics to Forza or GT. The purpose of the game matters and obviously shifts the focus of the features provided.
Lokaum D+
Member
"ConclusionAnálisis de Starfield, un juego perdido en su universo
Analizamos Starfield, el nuevo trabajo de los creadores de The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim y Fallout 3 para Xbox Series X|S y PC.
5.8
Realmente no me lo esperaba.
Shocked me!!
Starfield is far from meeting the expectations it has generated over the years. It is a game from another era, with obvious seams and that are not typical of the year that we are in. But it goes beyond being a matter of age: it is that there are several steps backwards in the systems that was praised on team's previous projects. This is a game that encourages you to immerse yourself in a space epic exploring the unknown... and the least you do is explore. The playable loop consists of short-lived procedures and situations traveling from planet to planet, as occurs in a story mode that lacks more elaborate content. The concept of the game is formed in individual layers that do not feed into each other enough. There is no interest in discovering the next icon. There are no motivations to carry out that completism. The content generated by the engine is also not relevant. There are few reasons to stay in your universe."
* Translated with Google
Damn
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
What an odd comment.
fart town usa
Member
At the risk of being pounced on. It's really interesting to hear some of the comments on Starfield and then think back on FFXVI. Clearly the games are completely different but members of the community have propped each game as GOTG but both games seem to have people saying they've been "dumbed down", etc.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Jesus Christ the nutters are really coming out of the woodwork. Inventory is important to BOTH games, BOTH ganes rely heavily on crafting and gathering of resources. So yes it is fair to compare the system they use to store items and allow the player to manage said items. We are not talking about the different ways of modelling driving here we are talking about the most basic of things in a game where you manage and store items. You damn well can compare that and if you think different I want what you are smoking.The comparison is just completely irrelevant. To get a better idea of how pointless the comparison is, just look at NMS from the lens of how poor the RPG elements of the game are.
That's like taking a game like Mafia and comparing the driving mechanics to Forza or GT. The purpose of the game matters and obviously shifts the focus of the features provided.
But fine ok lets not compare inventory management to No Man Sky then. Lets compare it to all the other RPG games out there with inventory Management including Bethesda's own fucking games and if you don't conclude that starfields inventory management is the worst Bethesda has ever done than you are not being truthful.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
All those hype threads about being a space pirate or smuggler and exploring the vastness of space and the planets. Bethesda being Bethesda once again allowed people to run wild with this disinfo or hopes and dreams.
The awkward moment where even Scam Citizen has a far better feeling of exploration of the vastness and awe of space in a space game/RPG.
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DaGwaphics
Member
I haven't played Starfield, therefore I don't conclude anything from the resource management system.
It is quite obvious that planetary exploration is a much larger focus in NMS than in Starfield (Bethesda RPG built on quests in its populated areas). That's the point I was referencing, no need for the temper-tantrum. Most of the people following the game have expected the "in space" aspect of the game to be marginal in comparison to the typical Bethesda gameplay in the cities. I don't think this is the gotcha moment that you believe that it is.
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fart town usa
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Yea, I have no skin the game and i think Starfield looks cool but it is funny to see some people saying it's an RPG and not a space exploration game. I mean come on, that's what all the hype was about; exploring space, etc.
Just another example of why people need to stop being consumed by hype. Too many people just embracing cognitive dissonance. Doesn't have to be this way!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes those things are in the game, I haven't gotten that far but the giant bomb video has the staff talking about pirating goods and avoiding authorities to smuggle contraband.
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FunkMiller
Member
The problem is they know they can get away with it, because it'll still sell like gangbusters.
The video gaming audience is far too lenient when it comes to PR bullshit.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
The Luke Stephens video really shows the weaknesses of the game esp the procedural generated content. Id rather have had 5-6 well crafted planets to fully explore than procedurally generted stuff. Hell even no mans sky did it better
feynoob
Banned
At least that game wont come out and its just vaporware at this point.
cries in corner not having space dog fight.
Gudji
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I saw a website already has the Starfield “ending explained”. Which is crazy. The game hasn’t officially released and there’s a Pyro website explaining the ending and all the quests. You also see the people who are trying to make a living off video game stuff playing it. They’ll play it and move on. It’s all so self contained. Why should it matter? Well, there’s a reason I pick and choose video game outlets. Because I enjoy stuff about video games. Why does it suck? It makes the idea of investing myself feel less important. Why spend 100’s of hours on one game while some social media person makes a viral YouTube video explaining it. It’s hard to ignore.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Okay. Space exploration is nothing compared to 3 major last gen games off the top of my head, hell 4 if you include a "kiddie" game that even does it better, with little to no loading screens in the process.
Lokaum D+
Member
the only one i can remember that have that many loading screen is Outriders
rrriiigghhttt!!!!!! All lies
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Bingo. They "embrace chaos," after all.
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FunkMiller
Member
Finding it really weird that they seem to have gone for a halfway house between a space exploration game and a curated RPG.
Just call it StarCity, and give us three or four cities to get lost in. Then you don't have to deal with expectation management about the scale of the game. I would have been more than happy with less areas, but all well crafted, as I suspect most people would have been.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, even at the early point the one thing I agree with is that space exploration isn't as free-form as I thought. Maybe it's different later but at this early point I am being led very point-to-point fast travel style whenever in space.
feynoob
Banned
If you care about investment, it would be a hard time for you on social media.
But for others, it would be a goldmine for them. People like to play the trendy game that everyone plays.
feynoob
Banned
X-Wing
Member
What's the outrage, I don't get it?
The Infectious Paradox
Gold Member
Anyone seen the Starborn powers in action yet? I keep wondering when you get them. Use a spoiler tag for other homies
Gamebryo strikes again
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Yea the fact its a "space adventure" but even space is limited is kind of jarring. Its like RDR2 in free roam you have all the freedom you want but in missions your held down to a certain area and way to achieve the goal, except Bathesda did this with the entire game
Alebrije
Member
So this is not a game of the year after all, much less game of generation.
And after a few hours I can say it plays like a Fallout game on space. Since I like Fallout that is not a problem for me..but honestly I find more enjojable Cyberpunk than Starfield specially the attack approach.
The game is fine is what you can expect.from.Bethesda but does not do something new.
And after a few hours I can say it plays like a Fallout game on space. Since I like Fallout that is not a problem for me..but honestly I find more enjojable Cyberpunk than Starfield specially the attack approach.
The game is fine is what you can expect.from.Bethesda but does not do something new.
StereoVsn
Member
Do you work at Microsoft?
I can only wish that there was anyone to talk about gaming in the office. I think there are couple people tops and they are mostly into Sports games.
Oh, and one more is into shooters. That's probably out of a few dozen people I know directly. There is no gaming talk in Slack/Teams either. Now, if you want to talk cars, motorcycles or bikes, that's a whole different story.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I heard a reviewer say this is like 'Space Fallout but without Fallout's charm'. I get that sense too, they tried to create their own I.P but it just aint as interesting as Fallout or ES etc. I know it is meant to be more grounded but bloody hell, parts of it look very bland.
Varteras
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah the Fallout seemed obvious when I started it earlier today, even without going far tyhe way it controls is very close to fallout so far, even some things that weren't explained will seem logical if you remember how Fallout plays (from 3 and onward though).
Not a problem so far on PC tbh. Starving.
Portugeezer
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That's why astronomers changed the pronunciation of the planet. I guess Bethesda ignored that.
