Slight bit of sarcasm.
Of course when active development it will be released on steam
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STEAM | December 2015 - _ Diretide Greetings and Happy Holidailies
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Of course when active development it will be released on steam
crazyrabbits
Banned
I hope to God they don't relegate the Gold Saucer to a single episode.
The more I think about this, the angrier I get. The overworld is such a huge part of the experience that I can't believe for a second that they'd chop or condense it down to meet an episodic structure.
Like, the whole buildup of Sephiroth in the first place is when you start venturing towards Kalm and you come across that slain monster at the entrance to the desert. Or how the entire Chocobo sidequest is basically a build-up to getting the means of transportation to get to that lone island in the northeast corner of the map and grabbing the KOTR materia. Or how you can revisit locations later to get extra dialogue or replay minigames/finish sidequests (like Wutai in discs 2/3).
The more I think about this, the angrier I get. The overworld is such a huge part of the experience that I can't believe for a second that they'd chop or condense it down to meet an episodic structure.
Like, the whole buildup of Sephiroth in the first place is when you start venturing towards Kalm and you come across that slain monster at the entrance to the desert. Or how the entire Chocobo sidequest is basically a build-up to getting the means of transportation to get to that lone island in the northeast corner of the map and grabbing the KOTR materia. Or how you can revisit locations later to get extra dialogue or replay minigames/finish sidequests (like Wutai in discs 2/3).
LurkerPrime
Member
Done right, the Chocobo Farming episode could be the new Harvest Moon.
MMBosstones86
Member
Now I really don't like this.
Hero Prinny
Member
i was expecting them to cut a lot of the side content/speed through via cutscenes and making the game super linear ala 13.
The sad part is that they'll probably still do that in addition to the multi-part thing lol
crazyrabbits
Banned
But even 13 opens up after the initial 8-10 hour "linear" section, much like VII does.
As I said before, the only way I can see myself investing in this is if each part has a heaping ton of extra content in it. Like, Part 1 has a hub space (the slums) that has more shops, sidequests and NPCs, you can take on side jobs for Avalanche for extra pay, and you can visit areas that were only glimpsed in the original.
If this whole thing is just going to be a series of linear setpieces with no real connective gameplay beyond "how we got here" cutscenes to start and end each part, and chopping out the overworld entirely, there's really no point.
Jawmuncher
Member
Still wish it had just been UE4 graphics over the original game. That was all I wanted plus new CGs.
Yeah that would be another way to go, but would you be happy with that solution?
The Dear Leader
Banned
Nah, the original game is old as dirt and didn't age well, just like pretty much all FF games, I'm glad they are modernizing it for people. I know I'm interested in playing it now that it's going to have actually decent combat now.
texhnolyze
Banned
I really can't tell if the HL3 leak is true or not at this point.
Yeah, that's all I want honestly.
But it seems that atb combat is just too old-fashioned for gamers nowadays.
Bike and snowboard sequence DLCs.
Hero Prinny
Member
i don't care either way. I'm expecting very little from modern square enix to begin with. Also who said they still won't do that?
don't put it past themyes, 13 is garbage. I fully agree with you.
i don't care either way. I'm expecting very little from modern square enix to begin with. Also who said they still won't do that?
Sure. That certainly helps.
That way you don't have to be like people in that thread "My Hype, help, won't god think of my hype"
crazyrabbits
Banned
I'd like to know how the fuck they plan on implementing Fort Condor. It's such a huge part of the original game, despite being a sidequest, precisely because it can be taken in bits and pieces at various points throughout your adventure (and optimally, it can and should be visited as much as possible to get the maximum number of rewards from it). It's a sidequest that spans two discs and ties into the Huge Materia quest from the second disc.
When I completed the game earlier this year, I made it a point to follow a guide that showed how to 100% that sidequest, and was surprised by how much it encouraged you to violate common sense (as in, abandon your current mission) in order to go back and visit it for another battle.
Shalashaska
Member
No one asked for this. Makes business sense I guess.
I guess I'll quote this again. They have talked about this for years and people suddenly forgot because, you know, "hype".
Hero Prinny
Member
midgar will be episode one. Only midgar. I'm calling it now
also it will cost $20. season 1 will be 3 episodes each costing $20, season one won't even be disc 1, like 3/4ths of it.
also it will cost $20. season 1 will be 3 episodes each costing $20, season one won't even be disc 1, like 3/4ths of it.
Se7enSword
Banned
Yeah, their finances aren't exactly stellar yet.
Hero Prinny
Member
you bring up a good point, midgar was like 12 hrs or something. Midgar will be season 1. 3 episodes, 20 bucks a pop. yes, this is more realistic knowing modern square enix, and even with that it won't cover all the stuff in the original midgar.
AcademicSaucer
Member
We will get a menu based overworld at best.
Jawmuncher
Member
They should have cancelled FF15 back when it was versus and just put all hands on deck for FF7R
Hero Prinny
Member
no. you'll instantly be transported to where the story needs you to be and you'll fucking like it dammit!!
BoosterDuck
Banned
So Cloud in Smash wasn't just good vibes?
FF7 coming to NX?
FF7 coming to NX?
Chairmanchuck
Member
I still dont get how some big name AAA publishers/devs cant add cloud-saves to their games while 1-man indie devs can do that.
Just to confirm the leak even more:
Remember that "Eczema Angel Orifice" weird ass name?
http://aliendovecote.com/orifice.html
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=447393736
Remember that "Eczema Angel Orifice" weird ass name?
http://aliendovecote.com/orifice.html
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=447393736
the_firewithin
Member
Lol
Hero Prinny
Member
wait till e3 when the nx is officially shown. I think it'll be on it. after all its just a play it first on ps4, doesn't outrule any other system.
That still wouldn't make the project more feasible financially as a single product.
crazyrabbits
Banned
It all depends on the pricing and the number of episodes. If this is something that takes places over 8-10 episodes with a $20 pricetag per piece, it's no bueno. Because you can bet that they're going to try and replicate all of the setpieces in one form or another.
And let's be honest. The notion that this isn't feasible as a project is bullshit in the wake of games like MGSV and Witcher 3.
Se7enSword
Banned
What an in-depth and analytical post. Would you care to elaborate how it ruined them and what sucks about them?
3D would be one =P
You also have Nibelheim, Wutai, Gold Saucer, Various different biomes, Forgotten City and the list goes on and on.
Go to a FF7 wiki and look up the number of unique locations with very different assets and foundations. Then get back to me.
Also Witcher 3 was made in Poland, and MGSV was extremely undercooked as a world.
Hero Prinny
Member
not enough Zack Fair would be my best guess.
crazyrabbits
Banned
I am well aware. I more-or-less 100%-ed the game earlier this year.
I'm not asking for a 1-to-1 remake. Yet, I can't support something like this if it's going to chop out fundamentally-huge sections of the experience (i.e. the overworld). Yes, it's a massive game, but they could just as easily scale down or have large segmented areas like MGSV or make it a bit more streamlined in terms of asset usage.
I fail to see how chopping this up and releasing it in episodes is going to engender more fan sympathy than waiting longer and releasing a full product.
i just remember being a young lad sitting in the car at night looking at the case seeing 'one of the bet games ever' after reading a review where it got 9.7 for being amazing. And then playing it like an addict for a month and being completely blown away by a whole new type of game i didnt realize existed (jrpg)
so ill pay 200$ for this if they do it right.
This isn't about fan sympathy. It is about financial realities. SE have been telling people this for more than 10 years.
They want to make a large project that could potentially take a very long time to complete. During that time do you think that they want to keep sinking money into the project without getting a return?
Who says they are not? We know absolutely nothing about how they are implementing this. We only have an overview of 140 characters.
IMHO, if they implemented their more overworld areas like it is done in Xenoblade (the first), that would be the best compromise.
Jawmuncher
Member
If they want to do it and not freak people out as much, I think following the Starcraft 2 mode would be best. If they're serious about adding more content to areas, then it could work out in someways with that in that sort of mode. Can't see them going past a trilogy though, or else people are gonna tell them to fuck off. Which is the same issue with "episodic" can't imagine them offering a ton of episodes for the same price total.
Hero Prinny
Member
Guys, Ni No Kuni 2 tho.
Whats up with the trailer going "the boy king"
a king can only be male, why did they feel the need to add boy in front of king? its as if they went "yo guys don't you think he kinda looks like a girl? lets just add boy in front of king that way there is no confusion"
like seriously, I'm not the only one who found that odd right?
Whats up with the trailer going "the boy king"
a king can only be male, why did they feel the need to add boy in front of king? its as if they went "yo guys don't you think he kinda looks like a girl? lets just add boy in front of king that way there is no confusion"
like seriously, I'm not the only one who found that odd right?
Jawmuncher
Member
The twist is that it isn't a boy
Boy king as in young king. He kinda looks like a girl, though.
crazyrabbits
Banned
You're talking about one of the few standalone sequels of any type of media that has inspired an entire expanded universe on its own. Mobile games, books, an animated movie, tie-in games for console release. FF7 has long been looked as Square's "emergency button" that they'd activate if and when things got dire for them as a company. It's pretty much the definition of a moneymaker.
A remake is going to sell like hotcakes, no matter whether it's a full release or episodic. This has nothing to do with whether or not the project is large enough, and everything to do with how much money they can make from the fanbase. While I don't doubt that this decision was partially motivated by wanting to get a product out first and foremost, it's going to be just as motivated by what they can get from the fanbase. That means episodes galore, with feedback informing future installments and DLC plans.
Alright, show me an episodic game that retains an overworld between its installments.
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