I'm just saying the revenue numbers are going to be off on that particular game given the unique circumstances under which it hit steam.
SteamSpy: Steam sales in 2015
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I'm just saying the revenue numbers are going to be off on that particular game given the unique circumstances under which it hit steam.
That's concurrent users, so it is a mix of new and old users logged in at the same time. The number of new active users in that time span is likely a lot higher. For example back in March concurrent users were at around 9 million but "active" accounts was at around 120 million - however the way Steam measures "active" users is a bit more dubious these days so is probably showing several million in excess.
thelastword
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Is there really a retail scene on PC anymore? In any case, seeing that I did contribute to the figures on the lists provided and taking into account what I paid for them, I'm not so sure. Not that anybody should be unhappy for more persons owning/playing games though....
GhostTrick
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Didn't explained your point though. In what way the revenue sounds low compared to the unit sold ?
I think Sergey excluded Valves cut. If you take Fallout 4 who never had a Sale and multiply by 60 Dollar, you get a much higher revenue than the one stated in the List. if you work with 70%, it is not exactly the same number but in the ballpark.
But maybe Sergey could tell us.
GhostTrick
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No Trails in the Sky SC on that list.
Well, you won't see Trails in the Sky SC anywhere on a best selling list I think.
No Trails in the Sky SC on that list.
You'd have to have infinite optimism to expect that game on the list.
FO4 had a ~ 20% sale the last week of the month. Might explain any differences.
And yeah the revenue is going to be high (he even says so) because I don't believe he has a way of determining what was actually sold by Valve and what just came in through other keys. Like a lot of those Pillars sales were really just backers getting their keys.
Not that it really matters, though. Valve just wants people on the platform and playing, and that's a whole lot of new people playing a whole lot more new games. And great ones at that.
Oh, now that you mention it. But looking at the Steamspy data, this is only 140k Units out of 2.7m
Let a man dream!
Valve is reportedly in line with most online storefronts, so 30% for keys bought on their storefront and 0-5% for other storefronts.
R10Neymarfan
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It has the Alpha label attached to it so many PC gamers are "forgiving" to it as they are to shit games like DayZ.
Basileus777
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The Life is Strange numbers are counting people who only bought the first episode. Unfortunately I don't think there is any way to get the real revenue numbers for that game either.
no, you just have to think that humans can appreciate great games inspite of those being older and not that graphically impressive, but apparently that's not a case, so it's not optimism but misplaced trust.
You hear that guys. thelastword bought games on sale, so that's it. Wrap it up.
The Dear Leader
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Someone explain the prankster uncle thing, I've seen it posted a few times today and I'm curious.
Also PC is a beast.
Also PC is a beast.
I am surprised how successful the Escapists was. Don't even know if that game got an OT here. I suppose that might be why we see Team17 stepping up to the plate publishing indies, they have some sleeper hits of their own.
Guess maybe that Walking Dead tie in gave it a boost? /shrug.
Guess maybe that Walking Dead tie in gave it a boost? /shrug.
It's funny, those special few posters who like to derail PC threads have now made their posts part of the GAF meta.
I'm paraphrasing, but the uncle posts come from the 12 million concurrent user thread where it was implied that a portion of those concurrent users are just dumb uncles who accidentally installed Steam.
The Dear Leader
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Lol okay, I'm not surprised.
Lol, dude trolls too much.
No, you'd just need severely unrealistic expectations.
At least we're able to play Bingo in gaf PC threads.
let's agree to disagree, as usual
Yeah, a game as niche as that probably would never end up there and if you think it will then you probably have pretty unrealistic expectations.
What I think is the biggest part of it not ending up there is that it's a direct sequel to a game which not that many people compltely finished.
But I've heard it's a good game so I won't have a discussion about that.
more niche than Undertale? lemme laugh at this, I'll get back in a week when I'm done laughing
It's an especially funny tact to take when games emulating older titles like Undertale and Pillars are on the lists making a lot of money.
shamelessly reposting the pic from this afternoon, because we know how this will end.
Unfortunately I forgot to include "PC success makes me physically sick to the stomach" and "the growth is from bored PSN XBL Players who couldnt play because of the Holiday DDOS attack"
thank you
Mass_Pincup
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So I guess it's a best case scenario as far as revenue number go. Or are they taking into account possible sales and whatnot?
Crimsonclaw111
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GTAV at fucking 4 million and that's not including RSC copies.
Changed my comment a bit, just so you know.
I really don't think someone who didn't finished Tits FC will go out and buy the direct sequel for almost 30€.
And it is a niche game which adds to it, not the most popular game in that niche too.
Probably best case in terms of just these sales, but not in terms of revenue from the overall platform. It's not counting F2P games or any DLC or weird stuff like market transaction cuts.
If you read the article, he broke it down by month, assumed they were selling at the lowest price the game was that month (on Steam), and then added them all together. There is a caveat in that there's also key redeeming that can't really be tracked so it can't be assumed that some didn't sell for lower.
HP_Wuvcraft
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This is fantastic, although I was thinking you could just click on a title and it would tell you what it got. I'm real interested in just general typical indies.
Isn't misplaced trust the same as optimism?
Mass_Pincup
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Yeah I was talking about the game to game basis graph.
Thanks. Wish he was more specific about what the "minimum advertised price during that period" actually means. Is it just in steam or did he used Enhanced Steam to get the lowest advertised price on steam and official retailers?
There's nothing to agree or disagree here. It's extremely unrealistic to think it would top any charts. This is purely a fact.
It's a game that is a direct sequel(very little reason to pick it up if you didn't finish the first one yet) to another game that takes at least 40 hours to beat., and it's 30$. It wasn't ever going to set any charts on fire. Especially with the lack of basically any marketing at all.
RSC?
RockStar Social Club
Rockstar Social Club. It's the service the game redeems to if you don't buy it on Steam, so any retail sales, third party sites, etc aren't included here.
Mass_Pincup
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Rockstar Social Club. Any copies bought outside of the Steam store doesn't give you a Steam key and aren't accounted for in those graphs.
Still... how are people not refunding it when they see what it looks like and how it runs lol
Ah, so the actual numbers for GTA 5 are likely much higher than the ones reported in the OP.
ratcliffja
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Yeah Cities Skylines did really, really well. It's definitely deserved too, as it really feels like the true successor to Sim City.