Or you could stop being so sensitive to criticism of a product.
Wouldnt that apply to the haters going into these threads? Im not the one going into Android threads to shit things up. Not to say it doesnt happen.
Or you could stop being so sensitive to criticism of a product.
I despise how the smart cover leaves two screen-long smudges down the middle of the screen. So hard to clean it off.
Wouldnt that apply to the haters going into these threads? Im not the one going into Android threads to shit things up. Not to say it doesnt happen.
I've only seen legitimate criticism in this thread. Maybe a bit hyperbolic, but legitimate.
I know people are talking about their personal opinions — my comment was about the hyperbolic expression of those opinions. It's not enough that a size is 'great' or the 'best for me' it has to be declared as 'perfect'! I find it weird that Apple/iPad fans keep jumping to these extremes *shrug* but not surprising because Apple sets that tone in their marketing.
Haha, that's not the same thing at all. I'm attempting to declare a fact not an opinion: the dimensions of the 7" tablet are known and we can measure average pockets sizes. It either fits into the jeans pockets (or it doesn't) and we can then agree (or disagree) on a working definition of portability.
Lol Apple just fucked up the usability of their tablet. the iPad mini is truly the shit version. I wouldn't get one even if I was paid to.
I despise how the smart cover leaves two screen-long smudges down the middle of the screen. So hard to clean it off.
It's not so much that it leaves two thin smudges, it's that the sections of the cover that touch the screen actually clean it.
Stop projecting.I don't think you are speaking to knowledge of average jean pocket sizes--you are declaring a fact that they fit your jean pockets. There is no "working definition" of portability--its an opinion based on personal needs, there definitely is no objective definition that declares that 1.4 cm of extra width places the iPad mini outside of the portability.
I was referring to the thin side bezels which would be a definitely be a huge usability problem if left unaddressed. Once Apple revealed at their iPad Mini that they were attempting to cover for the thin bezels in software I scaled back my criticism. the full context of that post:Speaking of extreme hyperbolic expression of opinions:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41038331&postcount=519Lol Apple just fucked up the usability of their tablet. the iPad mini is truly the shit version. I wouldn't get one even if I was paid to.
Lol Apple just fucked up the usability of their tablet. the iPad mini is truly the shit version. I wouldn't get one even if I was paid to.That should shut Greyface up.
Lol, no it's not. Whatever. I can pull up posts from every Machead here explaining why the iPad needs big bezels but once Apple makes a 180 it looks cool. *smh*
numble said:Nintendo has a game system called the Wii that no one thinks twice about now.Esperado said:The minor nitpicks I have are that I really hate the name and the screen bezel. The bezel is just too thick and the iPad name just sucks.
As for the bezel, that's a "you have to use it to understand it" scenario. I kind of wish it was even bigger.
There is no question that that bezel is like it is by design. Design isn't only how fancy something looks.Esperado said:Right now it just looks like a bloated iPhone to me, and that's a surprise coming from such a design centric company like Apple.
I don't think you know what projecting means. I wouldn't say "I think" otherwise. Do you really have detailed data on average jean pocket sizes that show that jean pockets can accomodate 12 cm thick devices, but can't accomodate an extra 1.47cm in width (I don't think average jeans can accomodate either size).Stop projecting.
I was referring to the thin side bezels which would be a definitely be a huge usability problem if left unaddressed. Once Apple revealed at their iPad Mini that they were attempting to cover for the thin bezels in software I scaled my criticism. the full context of that post:
Why are you pretending I'm saying something I didn't? I didn't say what you're pretending you're quoting me as saying, and the context of the quote is not being disputed anyway. The context of people calling things "perfect" is from their own beliefs, after all. Calling something "perfect" isn't even unusual to Apple fans in Apple threads, look at most GAF product threads.
Can we screencap this and post it in the OP of every Apple event and product thread? Apple haters really ruin the threads. Its getting ridiculous. This is SPOT ON.
Apple Hater's 7 Stages of Grief
I don't think you know what projecting means. I wouldn't say "I think" otherwise. Do you really have detailed data on average jean pocket sizes that show that jean pockets can accomodate 12 cm thick devices, but can't accomodate an extra 1.47cm in width (I don't think average jeans can accomodate either size).
Calling something "shit" is just as extreme and hyperbolic as calling something "perfect."
Calling something "shit" is just as hyperbolic. You might as well join Martyville if you want to start making pedantic claims about how calling something "shit" is not extreme.perfect is an extreme. There is nothing better than perfect. I can think of a few apt descriptions for tablets worse than the iPad mini.
Calling something "shit" is just as hyperbolic. You might as well join Martyville if you want to start making pedantic claims about how calling something "shit" is not extreme.
Also:Well my galaxy tab 7.7 goes in my pocket. it's not the best or easiest fit but it's comfortable enough for daily use. It's a much easier fit in back pockets and jacket pockets but you get the picture:…lol. Come on. Pocketable doesn't strictly mean "fit" to me. I can fit many large and heavy things in my pocket but I don't consider them pocketable and wouldn't want to put them in my pocket.
So about those photos?
I wear small/average jeans. It can fit in my pockets ergo it can fit in most people's pockets.Greyface said:Regular/small sized pockets... before useful tablets became readily available I used to stuff paperback books in my pockets. Those are on average 7.8" long by 5.12" wide and usually a bit thick too. The Kindle Fire is 7.5" × 4.7" and an easier fit. It's not that the devices magically disappear in my pockets like a tiny phone would—I'm just past the point of caring that everybody can see a bulge in my pants. After a stock reply to the effect that 'I got a thousand books in my pocket I could be reading right now so I'm not happy to see you' my friends got tired of cracking jokes. *shrug*Unknown Soldier said:I want to know what kind of pockets you have which can fit a Kindle Fire or any other Kindle inside.
LxW and cut? They don't look like small/average jeans to me.*shrug* You said it was extreme, i said it's not. I guess disagreeing with you makes someone pedantic.
I included the context of the shit quote to show the importance of the feature and to show I wasn't jumping between extremes like I said Apple/iPad fans are. Ok so let's say "shit" is an extreme but when Apple revealed the software smart bezel feature I didn't immediately call it perfect; I didn't jump to two extremes.
You've searched through my gaf history so you can easily get understand my position on fitting in pockets:
Also:
I wear small/average jeans. It can fit in my pockets ergo it can fit in most people's pockets.
It's possible to discuss and agree on a definition of portable:
Portable Computer
The Tablet and gadget portability theory
LxW and cut? They don't look like small/average jeans to me.
Over half the population generally wear jeans with much smaller pockets and a tighter fit.
Edit:Any definition of portability that declares an extra 1.4 cm of length to be not portable is going to fall into the realm of opinion. Your links all point to pages discussing devices that are wider than 13.5 cm, by the way.
iPhones use slow, low-capacity, ultra-low-power hardware on a tiny screen with almost no ports and very few compatible peripherals. They can do only a small (albeit useful) subset of general computing roles. They are poorly suited to text input of significant length, such as writing documents or composing nontrivial emails, or tasks requiring a mix of frequent, precise navigation and typing, such as editing a spreadsheet or writing code. But they’re always in your pocket
And they’re too big to fit in a pocket.
The keyboards are too small to be anywhere near as useful as a desktop’s or laptop’s, and the devices are far too large to be pocketed.
iPhone isn't wider than 13.5 cm... Marco discusses gadget portability and pays much attention to the pocket-ability of those gadgets. I don't see why it's now a problem when I bring it up in the context of the iPad mini.I don’t know what Apple has in mind for the Tablet, but they nailed it with the iPhone: after decades of clunky, awkward, mediocre pocket computers, I think it’s safe to say that the large touchscreen is the best input mechanism for them.
But the decision isn’t nearly as clear for a slate-type device with a 7-10” screen
Wouldnt that apply to the haters going into these threads? Im not the one going into Android threads to shit things up. Not to say it doesnt happen.
Yeah, the 7/8 inch form factor is ideal for tablets IMOI found out my iPad Mini fits both in my jeans and the inside pocket of my jacket.
Just got an email that Apple shipped mine today.
Sooner than I expected, considering the two weeks warning.
My friend was showing me his iPad 2 and he says he can get 5-6 days use out of it without charging the battery. He showed me the usage and it was like 1 day, 18 hours usage and 4 days standby. I was amazed. Do all iPads last this long??
After playing with my mini, my coworker is returning his brand new iPad 4 for one. Whoops.
After playing with my mini, my coworker is returning his brand new iPad 4 for one. Whoops.
Are non-retina screens really that hard to look at anymore?
For me, yes. For games I can deal with non-retina resolutions, but for anything to do with text, a retina screen is just much more pleasing to me.
Check store.apple.com after 10 p.m. for instore pickup availability. Did that on Saturday - picked mine up on Sunday without waiting in any line.
jumpppppp, re-sell, get retinaaaaaaaSo any over or under about if this is a must buy? I have an iPad 2 and I love it, but I wish I could carry it around. I'm hesitant to get the mini because I just know the next iteration will have the retina display. So gaf should I wait or jump in?
So any over or under about if this is a must buy? I have an iPad 2 and I love it, but I wish I could carry it around. I'm hesitant to get the mini because I just know the next iteration will have the retina display. So gaf should I wait or jump in?
Just got mine.
Sweet Jesus this thing is nice. Probably the most impressed I've been with a gadget since the iPhone 4. The weight and thickness of it make it so it fits in my hands easily, making it much easier to type on that the iPad 2 (and 4S, for that matter). I cat emphasize enough how easy it is to type on.
Are non-retina screens really that hard to look at anymore?
ipad2 is the longest lasting out of the series, since the battery was improved from the original, and the retina display takes up more juice in the newer models. 5-6 days sounds pretty low use, but I use my ipad2 every day and only have to charge it every third or forth day. Though intensive games like Infinity Blade can drain it pretty quick.My friend was showing me his iPad 2 and he says he can get 5-6 days use out of it without charging the battery. He showed me the usage and it was like 1 day, 18 hours usage and 4 days standby. I was amazed. Do all iPads last this long??
hey how come the app store dont have swiftkey? i thought the app store has the most apps?
I'll put it this way. You're less likely to notice it if you're coming from an iPad 1/2 that you use all the time and never had problems with.Are non-retina screens really that hard to look at anymore?
That seems high. Is that on a completely fresh iPad before syncing anything to it? I have an old iPod touch (32GB actually) that I have wiped completely clean to ground zero with no iCloud data or anything but the default OS and it says it only takes .79GB for "miscellaneous" files. I can't see it needing much more at all for iPad iOS. At least not 3GB. Even with all its bigger resources which aren't all that much more really when you get down to it. Can anyone else shed light on this? I always set up iCloud before even getting to the Springboard.Can anyone tell me how much space the OS takes up on the Mini? It was around 3.5GB on my iPad 2.
Why are you still trolling?
hey how come the app store dont have swiftkey? i thought the app store has the most apps?
this is a serious question, i got an ipad 3.
this is a serious question, i got an ipad 3.