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The Pokemon Company suing Sword & Shield leakers, citing "irreparable injury" to the franchise
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Saber
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Just to add, they also remove GTS(Global Trading System).
Which people only knew this was removed thanks to the leaks. Pokemon Conpany omited that info.
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Starlight Lotice
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They are trying too hard to hide the problems by trying to get more money out of those who shown off the problems. It was bound to happen when the game released anyway.
Hope they don't win.
Hope they don't win.
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Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
The article states that the 'leakers' on Discord leaked images from a STRATEGY GUIDE. Since when are fucking books embargoed?
StormCell
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Some of this is subjective at best and overblown at worst. The first two points are a fact, but the third point is meh. It doesn't feel short. I'm not trying to rush through the gyms, which I'm sure I could but that has less to do with the game. I find the structure of this game to be more meaningful than what I've found in other recent Pokemon games. The story is at least more interesting. The presentation is much better than Sun/Moon, and I haven't found myself mashing buttons hoping for the cut scenes to end. As far as the lies are concerned, that's all stuff that the executives are having their marketing people spin and nothing to do with what the dev team is intending for us to have to hear. I'll defend my fellow devs on most of these points because they get no say into what they are working on as far as time and budget is concerned.
I don't understand this "complete ignorance to push the series in a new direction ... despite having vastly more powerful hardware." What I'm experiencing in the game is at least engaging and actually fun. FWIW I feel like the project manager(s) and dev team had good ideas. Please follow me this far. I think the guys actually working on these games had good stuff in mind for us players. The wild areas are where this game is the most fun. The cooking system saves us from dumbass sprints back to a poke center, etc. If any of this stuff looks half-baked or gimped, it's because upper management/executives didn't want to spend more money polishing the new concepts.
So yeah, hate for Game Freak is completely warranted. Hate for Sword and Shield is kind of eh. The games are actually more fun than Sun/Moon could ever be. I hated those games. I'm having as much fun with these as I did Ruby/Sapphire. I'm not a diehard Poke fan, though, and I can see the cut corners on this game as clearly as anyone. I can forgive the limited budget the team had to work with since the game plays well (ie. Might and Magic 7 was a gem in spite of the incredibly dated engine, etc).
I can't fathom why Game Freak seems to be dragging their feet on the Switch. They have totally botched their support for this platform. I've seen them quoted as having expected the Switch to totally fail, and thus they weren't even working on a Switch title at the time of Ultra Sun/Moon's reveal, which is just about unforgivable IMO. I don't think they even want to make Switch exclusive games, and I kind of doubt they even want to continue making Pokemon. I think they must be getting checks from The Pokemon Company for Niantic's work on Pokemon Go. It's the only way I can figure they've got shit tons of money and no desire to make new Pokemon games....
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Zog
Banned
Google is your friend. Actually, no they aren't. No corporation is your friend but Google would have helped you with this answer.
Quickly though, They lied about the reason that they cut so many Pokemon from the game. They said it was because they made new animations and that it would be too much work to make new animations for them all. Turns out, they just copied the animations from the 3DS games.
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flibbertyjibbert
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Lawl. They thought they'd control the narrative. Hide the game until your shill reviewers can put out the whitewash 9/10s. Thatd be the first thing we all saw about the games.
Guess they didnt realise internet exists
Guess they didnt realise internet exists
Nydius
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This lawsuit sounds like someone at TPC called up Nintendo and asked them for a their roadmap on suing emulator/rom sites. Long run, it probably won't damage their image too much but in the short term I hope they're ready for a lot of egg on their face as the issues with Sword and Shield are put officially on-the-record in this suit.
The only one of Juke Joint Jezebel's points that could be considered subjective is point number four. Everything else is objective fact. They did copy/paste most of the animations in the game. They did cut the Pokedex by half, over a hundred moves, and other core gameplay components despite no longer having 3DS limitations. It is the shortest Pokemon game since the original Red/Blue/Yellow days on the original Gameboy. Online connectivity is widely lamented as awful, even by positive reviews, and recently found exploit make online raids a complete clusterfuck.
If you want to talk about "subjective", your entire post boils down to "I'm having fun, so I don't think the hate is warranted."
The only one of Juke Joint Jezebel's points that could be considered subjective is point number four. Everything else is objective fact. They did copy/paste most of the animations in the game. They did cut the Pokedex by half, over a hundred moves, and other core gameplay components despite no longer having 3DS limitations. It is the shortest Pokemon game since the original Red/Blue/Yellow days on the original Gameboy. Online connectivity is widely lamented as awful, even by positive reviews, and recently found exploit make online raids a complete clusterfuck.
If you want to talk about "subjective", your entire post boils down to "I'm having fun, so I don't think the hate is warranted."
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CuteFaceJay
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Saber
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It feels like most of people like him try to going on circles with any proved fact by using the fun term, as if anything wrong GF did can be forgiven as long they find joy. As I said, people can find fun in pratically any game. It doesn't mean the game is devoid of any criticism, even worse when a company already proved to be lying when most of other companies are crucified when they do so.
Reminds me of my time on Sega Forums when every often people go there creating a thread asking "whats wrong with people" or "why so much hate", saying that Sonic 06 is a fun game.
StormCell
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Never said anything about it being devoid of criticism. There's plenty of blemishes. I simply want to try to guide the hate more toward Game Freak when I see statements like "lazy devs" and "half-assed effort." The game reeks of not having enough budget for the artists and modelers. It's abhorrent that Game Freak made up total fabrications about the pokemon models and didn't even allot enough budget to give the developers proper animations for all the moves. That's not the doings of malevolent devs. It's the result of stingy and, dare I say, borderline incompetent executive management.
And in spite of all that, it's still a good game. It's one of the better Pokemon games in a long time. Although, personally, I'd rather they just offer an upscaled version of Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire. That would suffice.
Zog
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Needs? No but it's nice to have one for people who like to collect them, like me.
CuteFaceJay
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Those games are solid titles in the franchise 100% Still keep my 3DS on my to play them. I mean that's all the community really wanted back when sun & moon were a thing people thought that Stars would have been the switch version or something.
Instead we get lame games with cut content that somehow look worse than the lets go games before them LOL
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StormCell
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It's a sad truth. Sword/Shield has it's moments, though. The early towns look really nice, and there's more diversity in the places that you battle -- it used to be you got one battle backdrop for each type of environment.
I would have gladly accepted a Pokemon Stars game that was nothing more than an upscaled Sun/Moon. The truth is that I've totally grown out of playing these games while looking down at a screen in my hands, and this is partly why I'm having a stellar time with Sword/Shield on my TV. Let's Go was a mild slap in the face, and I skipped it. This (Sword/Shield) is a real a Pokemon game at least. That's about all I can say for the positives.
I'd like to see Nintendo ninjas brutalizing the Game Freak HQ via security cam footage. I would drop $60 to own that video.
PS. People have been bitching about Game Freak's lack of graphical fidelity since Ruby/Sapphire on GBA.
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EightBit Man
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Nintendo And The Pokémon Company Release Joint Statement On Sword And Shield Leaker
Update: Offending site responds
www.nintendolife.com
LOL
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TheWanderingOgre
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Fuck off with that greedy asshat corporation mentality.
You are swimming in money you idiots.
Take that "irreparable damage" and *dukenukemvoice* Shove It Up Your Ass.
You are swimming in money you idiots.
Take that "irreparable damage" and *dukenukemvoice* Shove It Up Your Ass.
policestationx
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FNintendo is secretly F*ck NintendoNintendo And The Pokémon Company Release Joint Statement On Sword And Shield Leaker
Update: Offending site responds
LOL
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Imagine still supporting GF even after all this.
Shaqazooloo
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I don't get it. Reviewer failed to honor an agreement between them and Nintendo by leaking confidential information and they sued him so TPC and Nintendo are the bad guys somehow?
Lanrutcon
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I don't get it. Reviewer leaked some images and Nintendo are shouting irreparable injury while pursuing legal action over a game that is selling like hot cakes and Nintendo aren't complete douches somehow?
MagnesG
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So reviewers get to leak images and breach their embargo as long as the game is regarded "shit" then causes drama?
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Lanrutcon
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So reviewers leaking images qualify as "irreparable injury" while the game in question is setting sales records for the platform?
MagnesG
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Yes, it doesn't matter the game's bomb or not, a breach is still a breach, thus relationship is cut. Estimates of damages doesn't count on the success of the product.
As for "irreparable injury", that's a buzzword any company/person could spew out whenever their interest is endangered, and rightfully so.
I really don't want to get into the moral standpoint, "douche or not" when a high risk breach happened.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Nice avatits
Lanrutcon
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So a) if "interests are endangered" by giving your consumers an advanced showing of a few assets then you've got bigger issues and b) calling this a "high risk breach" is fucking laughable.
This is Nintendo being douches in my opinion. It's got nothing to do with morality, and everything to do with a greedy corporation being a greedy corporation.
Quezacolt
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Greedy or not, it's in their right, If i made a game, i wouldnt want stuff to be leaked either. Anyway, in this case, if they hadnt shown that there's consequences from breaking the NDA, then other websites would start leaking stuff from review copies too.
MagnesG
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It's not, you fucking breach a contract then you break the law, simple as that. You get to be showed and reviewed a game pre launch, not publicly upload them online! At least post the pictures on 4chan + VPN or something, at least be a tad more smart than blindly posting discord.
I guess people are only gonna stop when they get sued themselves. The world is not all rainbows and sunshines.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Ftfy
Lanrutcon
Member
You're right. Given the stakes involved here, he should totally have used a false identity and a burner phone to upload those images of fictional creatures meant for children's entertainment. What was he thinking.
Exactly. So we need to call out the bullshit corporations do. They have legal teams to defend them. They don't need a defense force.
Shin
Banned
That is what first came to mind (just saw this article on N4G).FNintendo is secretly F*ck Nintendo
Though Nintendo is within their right here, they trusted someone and that person/website broke their trust and NDA.
Nintendo cuts ties with website after Pokémon leaks | VGC
Portuguese site identified as source of some pre-release Sword and Shield photos…
www.videogameschronicle.com
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MagnesG
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That's not how the world works.
Lanrutcon
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That's not how the world works.
Obviously not, otherwise this wouldn't be news.
Ascend
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I've got enough of this brand abuse. And it's not the first time that the Pokemon Company is being a douche simply because they want to, I mean, look at this;
www.vice.com
And it's not as if Pokemon Sword/Shield did worse this time compared to previous generations. It did better than it deserved. There is zero evidence that this caused any damage. They make a habit of claiming damage, just to gain money from wherever they can. Thankfully, sometimes courts do their jobs properly;
www.smh.com.au
I'm deleting everything Pokemon from my Phone right now. Goodbye Pokemon GO, Goodbye Pokemon Masters, Goodbye Pokemon Shuffle, Goodbye Pokemon Duel. I'm really glad I didn't buy a Switch just for Sword & Shield. I cannot support Pokemon anymore. I should be thankful. My time will go into more important things now.
The Pokémon Company Sues, Shuts Down Fan Gathering
The Pokémon Company shuts down unofficial party for infringing on its copyrights.
www.vice.com
And it's not as if Pokemon Sword/Shield did worse this time compared to previous generations. It did better than it deserved. There is zero evidence that this caused any damage. They make a habit of claiming damage, just to gain money from wherever they can. Thankfully, sometimes courts do their jobs properly;
Pokémon awarded $1 in damages against Redbubble
The Federal Court of Australia has awarded Pokémon $1 in nominal damages against retail site Redbubble.
I'm deleting everything Pokemon from my Phone right now. Goodbye Pokemon GO, Goodbye Pokemon Masters, Goodbye Pokemon Shuffle, Goodbye Pokemon Duel. I'm really glad I didn't buy a Switch just for Sword & Shield. I cannot support Pokemon anymore. I should be thankful. My time will go into more important things now.
Saber
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Oh the evil caused by a leak of their game. Please protect us from the evil, fans. We are just happy givers who have no intention to make money.
By the way, shut the fuck up and buy our Season passes you dumb bitches.
How many times Pokemon games are leaked(you can count if you wish LOL)? And since when this ever caused "irreparable damage"?
By the way, shut the fuck up and buy our Season passes you dumb bitches.
How many times Pokemon games are leaked(you can count if you wish LOL)? And since when this ever caused "irreparable damage"?
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EightBit Man
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Shaqazooloo
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Pokémon Shuffle and Go shouldn't have been on your phone to begin with.I've got enough of this brand abuse. And it's not the first time that the Pokemon Company is being a douche simply because they want to, I mean, look at this;
The Pokémon Company Sues, Shuts Down Fan Gathering
The Pokémon Company shuts down unofficial party for infringing on its copyrights.
And it's not as if Pokemon Sword/Shield did worse this time compared to previous generations. It did better than it deserved. There is zero evidence that this caused any damage. They make a habit of claiming damage, just to gain money from wherever they can. Thankfully, sometimes courts do their jobs properly;
Pokémon awarded $1 in damages against Redbubble
The Federal Court of Australia has awarded Pokémon $1 in nominal damages against retail site Redbubble.
I'm deleting everything Pokemon from my Phone right now. Goodbye Pokemon GO, Goodbye Pokemon Masters, Goodbye Pokemon Shuffle, Goodbye Pokemon Duel. I'm really glad I didn't buy a Switch just for Sword & Shield. I cannot support Pokemon anymore. I should be thankful. My time will go into more important things now.
Saber
Member
They should be apologizing for delivering a game is this trash state. Any other company would be hunted down for less.
MagnesG
Banned
Dexit already happened, and they do apologize.
Shaqazooloo
Member
Media outlet that breaks NDA is not the same thing as a fan leaking the game.
The damage in this context would be revealing info that Nintendo/Pokémon Company don't want revealed early which can impact advertising?
I don't think damage in this context relates to sales of the game.
The game is decent in my opinion.
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Shaqazooloo
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What's the point of an NDA if it's not enforced?
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