If Germany offers access to the free market and other benefits to the UK they might as well end the EU there because everyone will leave.
Being strict to the UK is their best course of action even if they'll obviously maintain business relations.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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If Germany offers access to the free market and other benefits to the UK they might as well end the EU there because everyone will leave.
Being strict to the UK is their best course of action even if they'll obviously maintain business relations.
SuperEpicMan
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Owen Jones was pretty spot on about a few things in this video he did a few days ago:
https://youtu.be/3FqAaD_lsRw
https://youtu.be/3FqAaD_lsRw
- Cameron resigning
- Corbyn coup
- Possibility of a second Scottish referendum
- Possibility of other EU countries holding referendum
- Even the Leave Remain percentages in the graphics were almost right
CharmingCharlie
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Yes I did vote leave and no I do not regret voting leave because I voted leave for the right reasons. However I am not immune to the fact that there are many leave voters today with voter remorse and I am merely speculating that one of the reasons for that is the opinion polls.
I have always felt that Opinion polls are anti-democratic and have way too much influence on the final result. I am fine with leave winning but I would have preferred if leave had won for the RIGHT reasons.
There are very few things that have been imposed on us by Europe - the last one that I can remember was the imposition of limits on bankers bonuses... something which our government fiercely opposed (and yet the majority of the UK public strongly agreed with).
The vast majority of EU legislation:
- is perfectly sensible.
- is supported by the UK government (who often help draft it).
- is described as Eurocrats trying to destroy civilisation by the Sun.
UK will be fine without the EU - they can just do deals with the wonderful friends of Donald Trump, Marie Le Pen, Viktor Orban, Gert Wilders, Golden Dawn (literal neo-nazis!!!!), the Danish People's Party, the Swedish Democrats, the PiS in Poland, and anyone else who share their priorities. These are the ones approving this, so these people and Leave are at least ideological bedfellows when it comes to EU (and "immigrants").
Good job good effort, Leavers! Enabling the far-right movement in Europe even further with this bullshit.
Good job good effort, Leavers! Enabling the far-right movement in Europe even further with this bullshit.
Newtype-001
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😔😔😔😔
and to think last week i said the UK was just a slightly less shittier version of America
Boris Johnson still has a negative favourability rating iirc. can't find any recent results.
mehrmantrout
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I've managed to hold off all day but now i'm going to have a drink
The EU is democratic.
Yup. A fine bunch we've thrown in with
That's ice cold, true though.
If anything the EU is more democratic than our own parliament. We actually get PR with the EU and not FPTP
It's always been just as shitty, they're just better at hiding it when company comes to visit.
Having a group of people hate you for no discernible reason other than irrational fear and hatred is pretty bad. Now imagine that for the past 10 years and you havee the UKIP effect for minorities in this country. UKIP is one the main voices for the leave campaign, and a leave victory has only increased their popularity and the effect on attitudes in this country, intentional or not.
As annoying as it must be to hear it, can you at least understand why a large amount of people would be angry at this, especially as 'rational fears about immigration' have been rebuked time and time again and yet it still comes up.
I think the polls were accurate...before Jo Cox's assassination.
If you average all the polls in June, before campaigning was suspended, it will be 48% Leave, 44% Remain. A 4-point victory. That's pretty similar to the actual result. I think there was a knee jerk reaction to the death of Jo Cox, but nothing substantive had changed on the ground to change people's minds.
nature boy
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No chance would the EU allow that, it'd have to be the entirety of the EU or not at all. And based on what has been said by European leaders, not-at-all is the more likely.
In addition, free trade also means free movement of labour.
Damerman
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What a fucking mess. Jesus.From Jeremy Corbyn
And the blue states subsidize states in the rural south. What they dont understand is that it is their own local politicians that are the reason for their issues. It's easy to blame outsiders.
From Jeremy Corbyn
I assume he actually has a plan to re engage with the entire fucking country? useless twat. Labour and the Lib Dems have left a gaping hole we all just fell into.
Makes me rethink all those "that's how democracy works" and "everyone should vote" posts. There is a portion of the population who has no idea what they're doing.
Every election in the US there's always some vid of an interview with someone that goes something like, "I'm not sure who to vote for, I'm going to enter the voting booth and pray on it."
Like shit, you've had months and months of wall-to-wall media coverage and debate, how can you not have a strong opinion on the matter?
-duskdoll-
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That is infuriating.
On very clear false pretences
my facebook feed is depressing -- but i don't HOPE it all goes to shit. Don't get me wrong, if leave was a supposed to be a good idea, I hope it is.
So perfect
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/british-lose-right-to-claim-that-americans-are-dumber
Hard to disagree with this.
I have to stop reading this stuff, making me angry. Why don't people think!
Hard to disagree with this.
I have to stop reading this stuff, making me angry. Why don't people think!
and putin
BrokenFiction
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Posted yet?
https://twitter.com/MrCotidie/status/746355725119725568
Obama speaking about how the UK has to get to the back of the line for a trade agreement, because dealing with them now wouldn't be efficient.
https://twitter.com/MrCotidie/status/746355725119725568
Obama speaking about how the UK has to get to the back of the line for a trade agreement, because dealing with them now wouldn't be efficient.
Lazlo Woodbine
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Funny. The kind of demonstrably pious - let's rise above it (aka eh chaps what a bunch of hypocritical lefty wankers) - attitude on display here is getting equally familiar.
There's plenty of dumb to go around (leave/remain/space) but I wouldn't want to rob anyone from camp leave of the chance to make blanket statements about other people making blanket statements.
The political reality is always more nuanced but honestly I really feel like attaching some kind of tacky second rate Road to Wigan Pier reasoning as to why certain demo's voted how they did is intellectually dishonest.
Most legitimate immigration concerns are a result of successive government mismanagement and migrants from cultures outside the EU. Regardless everyone's a bloody expert so what do I know.
jakonovski
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Everyone should watch this, especially the Brexit voters.
Yeah, that makes more sense.
They will establish trading rules like they have with other countries but obviously they can't compare to being in the EU or else what's the point of it.
Not great news to the UK but obviously it's what is expected.
Lol. They have been running that game already the second a black man took office.
These are the swing voters which decide elections.
We will have our opportunity to reclaim the title come November....
Out of the two, I wish it was your second wish that came true
NYCmetsfan
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Yeah the US is having an election which both candidates have expressed skepticism of trade deals. Good Luck UK.
Btw this was a few months ago though.
gutter_trash
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Cameron is a mess, Corbyn is a mess.
the loonies took advantage of this mess
the loonies took advantage of this mess
Led_Zeppelin
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Again this garbage argument of "not informed enough", just come out and say clearly what you want, that white racist xenomorphs aren't allowed to vote already. Stop trying to act like a defender of democracy, shit is flawed but you stand by the principal.
that might change after november :\
Audioboxer
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From Jeremy Corbyn
I read this as Corbyn actually being happy.
Labour and Conservatives: The Fight to the bottom of the Shit Pit. In-house bitching, torn parties, no uniformity and... well... *sigh*
And what are these right reasons if i may ask
I mean I have an opportunity to win the mega millions. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.
Audible Phonetics
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Lol you really think its going to be that easy.
if it was, what is the point of being in the EU if you can leave and still get all the benefits.
There will be consequences and ramifications for sure, it'll be the only gate keeping back other countries from following suit.
What are you even talking about? This is all orchestrated by the Conservatives.
If you are in London, a lot of people might look a bit miserable, but it might be hard to tell the difference if you've not been there before.
Otherwise, it'll mostly be in your benefit anyway. Your money will likely be worth more, and most folks here don't have anything particular against 'Murkins.
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