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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
4 indie game devs in London are closing... (didn't think this was big enough for gaming side) https://twitter.com/ThatThereTim/status/746763506595291136
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Makes a change.
You know that kid at school who gets in trouble more for stuff other kids get away with, because he's expected to know better?
fuck Corbyn so much for not mobilizing the Youth
Everybody is currently blaming Cameron (and deservedly so) but honestly, fuck Corbyn. What an asshole.
Not seriously
It IS big enough. Make the thread.
But Corbyn was too busy with "meetings after meetings"...
Which makes you wonder why they endorsed a Leave vote at all if they didn't understand the huge ramifications of such a result.
The EEA is basically 90% EU membership but without any say whatsoever in the running of the EU or drafting of its laws. If the Brexiters had a problem with "unelected eurocrats" determining laws for them before this vote you can just imagine what EEA membership would do to them.
The only thing that would suit these people is complete isolation from Europe and withdrawal from all pan European bodies like the Council of Europe.
funkystudent
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Explaining the entire situation to a american friend of mine while not completely understanding it myself has been fun.
Sure there is the xenophobic under current to the leave vote but there is also the whole anti government view from the Northern parts as well.
And I have zero fucking idea what Wales was smoking when they voted leave. I need to read up on that.
This is the shit that gets me heated
You idiots!
Sure there is the xenophobic under current to the leave vote but there is also the whole anti government view from the Northern parts as well.
And I have zero fucking idea what Wales was smoking when they voted leave. I need to read up on that.
This is the shit that gets me heated
You idiots!
I'm sure he was very busy talking to people who already agreed with him.
Today, in my local neighborhood group on Facebook (in London), I've been told that they hope I will find a place where people will want me, because i need to "fuck off" now and I can finally stop stealing money from hard working British people.
This is not a political group, people ask for plumbers on this small group and things like that.
I am not constantly bitching, I am genuinely scared and, what scares me the most, is the attitude from leavers to deny any massive push thanks to xenophobic campaign, racist remarks and nationalistic slogan.
Let me tell you: the disgusted one is me.
Don't worry, it's scaremongering. No one's lost their jobs yet. Everything will be fine and it'll all blow over because we took back control.
SMH. This is the biggest avoidable catastrophe and it's just going to keep on giving.
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Deleted member 17706
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Via what mechanism will they force a British exit? Just yell at them a bunch?
it's really sad because a lot of it is unexpected
My business ( I do short term high end network and security consultancy work) has had two cancellations both from the financial sector in London since yesterday, I'm expecting a load more over the next week.
On the plus side I've got an unexpected week off a week on Monday (and they had to pay me an exit fee for that one)
As I already said in another thread: Considering that you can easily sign up other people by using their name and creating a fake email-account in one second - not seriously. The media will probably push it anyway.
There's a suggestion that any exit agreement with the EU could require consent from the Scottish Parliament.
https://twitter.com/PeteWishart/status/746741523522400256
the rorschach option
Agent Gibbs
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That shit enrages me no end! the information was there, only it wasn't on the little bubble that exists around the daily mail readers!
In my own personal experience:
A Steel Working friend voted out - the outlook on British Steel is as bleek today as it was before the vote
A recently qualified Nurse who believed the 350million for the NHS voted out and is now coming to the realization she is wrong and falling back onto the sovereignty argument and making Britain great again - whilst the Scots and Irish want independence now
The most irritating, a recently qualified mechanic (whatever the top level NVQ is) voted out....after getting his dream job with BMW! i don't even need to explain whats wrong with that do i?
I kind of feel like I'm going to loose friends over this, because i cannot reconcile with the stupidity,ignorance and arrogance from some of them
on a personal note,i was buying a house from a couple who were buying her parents home, as her parents were moving/retiring to Spain - looks like that isn't happening now
Camp Freddie
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I think Norway can negotiate it's own trade deals. I think that's why Dan the Tory MEP guy wants to leave the EU. So we can do trade agreements with the commonwealth that aren't delayed/blocked by the EU joint negotiation.
Still, a Norway deal would go completely against the promises made to leave voters. We'd still pay the EU, we'd have no extra immigration control and the EU would still control many laws (externally enforced by Europeans in EFTA courts I stead of the ECJ)
I was about to say that like the Cornwall and Yorkshire examples, they're right to ask for the funding as those people asking for it weren't major parts of the leave campaign.
This guy was the leader of Wales Leave though, so hopefully he loses his seat at the next GE when Wales is a lot worse off.
Flintty
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I'm sorry people are behaving like animals to you, there's no excuse for behaving like that and it makes be feel ashamed as an English/British person that people still act that way. They give other Leave voters a bad name, please don't assume we are all like that.
JonathanEx
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The petition sort of annoys me. I'm not happy with the result, people are free to express it in their own way, and I think there should have at least been a minimum on turnout.
If there were to be a second referendum, it shouldn't be because people are surprised by the result - it should be a change of circumstances, potentially a new party or govt or if we reach a point in the article 50 negotiations where there is a proper "okay X is the leaving deal - do we take this, or cancel the leaving process?". In that case, I think you can justify a "right, we know what the deal could be - do we take it?" double check.
Otherwise it's kinda pointless. Plus it'd be too soon and it'd kill any potential of engaging those who are mostly unhappy with the current state of politics. "Thanks for voting but we don't like that result, do it again" yeah that'll help. Ask again if there's a good reason to - but immediately on these percentages, nonsense.
30yearsofhurt
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What's there to get on with? Out means out. No free movement. No free trade. No special dispensations for the City. If you wanted all this then you should have stayed. Toodle pip old boy, Britain is just another country outisde the EU and we owe them nothing.
sounds like he was quite busy yes
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...nd-fuelled-brexit_uk_576eb1b5e4b0d2571149bb1f
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Jimbob Smalls
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People vote labour because their dad and grandad did.
People vote Tory because of benefits.
People vote lib dem because they don't like the above.
People vote remain because they didn't want to spend an extra 10 minutes at passport control on their annual holiday to Benidorm.
People vote leave because they don't like Cameron.
All of those reasons do not matter because one person has one vote and they can spend it on what ever they feel is important on the day.
Some here need to deal with this fact.
We are leaving the EU. Some doors will close this is true, some that were previously locked will unlock we will have no idea what's behind them until we open them.
The financial sector may get smaller, it may not,it will certainly have to adapt it's focus. Other sectors may find new opportunities in the world, we may even see a bit of a rebalancing of the economy away from the few square miles of the centre of London, something a lot on this forum think would be a good thing.
One thing is certain, other countries thrive outside the EU and are doing much better than us. It can be done.
Corbyn is a closet eurosceptic, only he only went in the closet very recently.
People vote Tory because of benefits.
People vote lib dem because they don't like the above.
People vote remain because they didn't want to spend an extra 10 minutes at passport control on their annual holiday to Benidorm.
People vote leave because they don't like Cameron.
All of those reasons do not matter because one person has one vote and they can spend it on what ever they feel is important on the day.
Some here need to deal with this fact.
We are leaving the EU. Some doors will close this is true, some that were previously locked will unlock we will have no idea what's behind them until we open them.
The financial sector may get smaller, it may not,it will certainly have to adapt it's focus. Other sectors may find new opportunities in the world, we may even see a bit of a rebalancing of the economy away from the few square miles of the centre of London, something a lot on this forum think would be a good thing.
One thing is certain, other countries thrive outside the EU and are doing much better than us. It can be done.
Corbyn is a closet eurosceptic, only he only went in the closet very recently.
so article 50 has been clarified, and confirmed, it is up to the UK to decide
How will Article 50 be triggered?
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A spokesman for the European Council has issued the following statement clarifying how Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is triggered - the mechanism to be used by a country withdrawing from the EU.
The notification of Article 50 is a formal act and has to be done by the British government to the European Council. It has to be done in an unequivocal manner with the explicit intent to trigger Article 50.
It could either be a letter to the President of the European Council or an official statement at a meeting of the European Council duly noted in the official records of the meeting. Negotiations of leaving and the future relationship can only begin after such a formal notification.
If it is indeed the intention of the British government to leave the EU, it is therefore in its interest to notify as soon as possible."
How will Article 50 be triggered?
Posted at
19:09
A spokesman for the European Council has issued the following statement clarifying how Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is triggered - the mechanism to be used by a country withdrawing from the EU.
The notification of Article 50 is a formal act and has to be done by the British government to the European Council. It has to be done in an unequivocal manner with the explicit intent to trigger Article 50.
It could either be a letter to the President of the European Council or an official statement at a meeting of the European Council duly noted in the official records of the meeting. Negotiations of leaving and the future relationship can only begin after such a formal notification.
If it is indeed the intention of the British government to leave the EU, it is therefore in its interest to notify as soon as possible."
mangochutney
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Can't wait for the knock-off Cumberland sausages and Melton Mowbray pork pies.
Genuinely curious, your thoughts on Scotland's place in all this given they voted stay? Or is it a case of "Fuck them, they bear the mark of Kain"?
BlastProcessing
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So the people who don't pass your "British mindset" purity test are the real bigots. Coolcoolcool.
The 100 largest companies based in the UK, not those who have most of their operations there.
For companies like Shell and Vodafone, UK is a small part of their operations.
In contrast, the FTSE 250 is mostly companies which have most of their operations and sales in the UK.
If you produce in China, sell globally and have branches in all major financial capitals, are you really a UK company that feels the brunt of Brexit?
Fucking hell. Hopefully he doesn't survive the next fortnight.
dealer-
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It's started.
I'm not a big fan of the East Europeans (I'm one myself) but I do understand them. They are here for work, they complain about weather but still they want to stay here. There are many more attractive countries and the Brits should respect them more.
The leave vote seems to have given these people the belief that this sort of behaviour is acceptable again, which is what I was worried about happening.
By raising tariffs, by starting to deport British citizens, by blocking entry to Brits, by blocking imports, etc.
Not now, I suppose, but 2 years from now. They could very easily say that the day of the referendum and Cameron's speech qualifies as the starting date and then, negotiations and agreement or not, start considering the UK out of the EU.
Edit: OK, looks like EU staff has clarified they would not take this route. Then... Well, I suppose both parties could drag this out ad infinitum.
I'd rather have full isolation from the EU than have anything to do with that Elephant Eared Murderer Troll.
It's going to surprise a lot of Leavers just how many Brexit clauses were in place for previously done deals, and believe me, they were very generous because a) people didn't think it would happen and b) they had to be.
I know of two big ones that are going to be addressed first thing on Monday. Current rumbling seems to be cut sunk costs and action on the clause.
Phrases like "a true british mindset" and "normal, honest hardworking people" are clearly dogwhistle terms. As if we're dumb enough to not know what you're referring to.
I'd rather have the UK leave planet Earth.
chromatic9
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The hype of London is a bit misleading.
Of the 3.7 million who voted
2.2m voted Remain
1.5m voted Leave
These are professional people voting leave, not knuckle dragging racists with flags hanging out of the luxury apartment windows. You're going to have get an extremely large angle grinder and cut in half almost every office and borough. The idea of London becoming separate is laughable.
Secondly there's the rich surrounding London areas that have voted leave just like any other part of the country. Very rich liberal places have voted the same as the dirty shitholes. The dirty shitholes were already accounted for, what shook everyone is many places in the South, North, East and West had a slight leave majority despite being thought of as remain.
I'm hearing on BBC radio how some describing the signs, how some liberal areas up and down the country were solicitors etc were asked and they got a shock reply of I'm voting leave. Not much was thought about it at the time.
Of the 3.7 million who voted
2.2m voted Remain
1.5m voted Leave
These are professional people voting leave, not knuckle dragging racists with flags hanging out of the luxury apartment windows. You're going to have get an extremely large angle grinder and cut in half almost every office and borough. The idea of London becoming separate is laughable.
Secondly there's the rich surrounding London areas that have voted leave just like any other part of the country. Very rich liberal places have voted the same as the dirty shitholes. The dirty shitholes were already accounted for, what shook everyone is many places in the South, North, East and West had a slight leave majority despite being thought of as remain.
I'm hearing on BBC radio how some describing the signs, how some liberal areas up and down the country were solicitors etc were asked and they got a shock reply of I'm voting leave. Not much was thought about it at the time.
What a fucking twat.
Labor is essentially dead in the UK precisely when the country needs both sides of the political spectrum to create a new system which serves the whole country.
BlastProcessing
Member
After this, maybe not for much longer and that's the problem in a nutshell.
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Well said. People are taking this far to personal. If they are really that unhappy, they should be taking that anger out on the government, who have failed in their job.
For various reasons, over half the voters feel there are big problems and a change was needed and they made their voices heard, and with so many people voting that way, there clearly is a problem somewhere.
The EU is partly to blame too, because the UK tried to negotiate some better terms for certain things and the EU hardly agreed to anything, maybe if they had been more willing to change things, this might not have even happened.
Europe is great but the EU is not all its cracked up to be and is not the centre of the universe like some people think it is.
Yeah, there was a lot of people who thought that the one brightside of this is that maybe it would help knowing that we can close our borders slightly and that UKIP were now irrelevant.
Social media and the internet itself can magnify things, so I hope that's what happening here, but every single one of these cunts that are doing this type of things should be made to leave instead, maybe to the ocean. I don't care what land they crawled out of a vagina on, they can fuck right off.
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