But this vote had nothing to do with the arseholes. It was about EU, not your government that you voted for last year.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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But this vote had nothing to do with the arseholes. It was about EU, not your government that you voted for last year.
they will also now be spending what they don't owe in tax at shops in france instead of the uk
BumblebeeCody
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Ooh wow
That's quite soon. Rumour about Morgan Stanley doing the same which has been denied but I've talked to friends there and there is no smoke without fire...
The most fucked up thing in all of this, is if an election was called this year, the tories would probably win again. I can only imagine the outright savagery that would follow that result.
Never have I been so happy Im not living in the UK, but how sad I'm that family and friends will probably be screwed for the long term.
Never have I been so happy Im not living in the UK, but how sad I'm that family and friends will probably be screwed for the long term.
Napoleonthechimp
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If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd suggest the whole thing was orchestrated to oust Cameron and the current tory a-holes in favour of a new bunch. Low and behold we've got a new fight for leadership while the majority of the populace argue among themselves oblivious to the fact that no one chose these dick heads.
But yet I still hear crap about the EU being undemocratic. Their masterplan is extraordinary, and they played us all like a fiddle.
CharmingCharlie
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I live in one of the safest labour seats on the planet even if there was a video of Corbyn giving a pig a blow job, this seat would still vote overwhelmingly labour. So no I don't expect labour to get in at the next general election and there is nothing I can do about that. I expect another Tory INCREASED majority and it will be full of arseholes yet again.
I'm getting annoyed at people saying the moaning and whinging from remain side is anti-democratic and childish.
That's politics and that's life. If you want change or reform or action you have to make your voice heard. It isn't about one side wins a vote and then everyone is just done and moves on.
We only got a referendum in the first place because team leave spent decades fighting this fight quietly poking away. If Leave lost would they have quit? No. They'd have probably said the vote was too close and we should have another referendum, sadly team remain seem too weak for that fight.
This is why protests and marches and petitions are a thing. Those 16m who lost the vote should not let this lie, as Farage says this is our country too and we should fight to reclaim it from these ignorant, naiive, gullible backward thinkers.
That's politics and that's life. If you want change or reform or action you have to make your voice heard. It isn't about one side wins a vote and then everyone is just done and moves on.
We only got a referendum in the first place because team leave spent decades fighting this fight quietly poking away. If Leave lost would they have quit? No. They'd have probably said the vote was too close and we should have another referendum, sadly team remain seem too weak for that fight.
This is why protests and marches and petitions are a thing. Those 16m who lost the vote should not let this lie, as Farage says this is our country too and we should fight to reclaim it from these ignorant, naiive, gullible backward thinkers.
mehrmantrout
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Excellent post. I honestly don't think an exit will happen. King Boris will be seen to be the saviour as he bends Brussels to his will after forcing them to the table etc etc..
btw if my brother in laws firm was to leave you're probably talking a tax loss (personal and corporate) of £100m+
So how will leaving benefit us?
Apart from the Romanian language being being more similar to Spanish and French than their own neighbours?
Gee, I've seen you post drivel before but this one surely hits the spot. Inform yourself before posting please.
I missed the IF, sorry.
You can believe or not but the Basque Country is not a problem anymore since ETA has been defeated.
The last poll (March 2016) from the own Basque Gov is 65% against the independence. Catalonian is slowly going that way too.
EVERY company is planning to move right now. These are publicly traded companies, it would be unethical for them to not look for better alternatives. There's absolutely nothing holding them in the UK. That's why people saying "but UK has always been successful and nothing will change" are delusional.
You've been conned,
when you find yourself on the side of Britainfirst, Godlen shower, BNP, Trump et al, you've become your own worst enemy, because now you've opened the door for this lot and I promise you, they do NOT have your best interest at heart.
Relaxed Muscle
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Please, don't make ignorant remarks about our politics.
Yeah I know. I'm hoping I get NY, don't want to be in Geneva.
CharmingCharlie
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Truth be told I didn't vote for it to benefit me personally. I voted because I believe the UK leaving the EU is the best solution for the UK AND the EU. I have no doubt I will continue to get shafted whether we are in the EU or out of it. But at least the UK leaving will allow the EU to get on with the integration that is wants.
BlastProcessing
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If you really want a global language, you might want to start brushing up on your Mandarin.
I saw Stephen Nolan who works for BBC NI and Radio 5 tweet about it. Said HSBC would look to move if the UK loses access to the common market.
mehrmantrout
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Jesus another one, if
CharmingCharlie
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Remain did not have my best interests at heart all remain were interested in by the looks of it is how much fucking money they are gonna lose. You can't get any more right wing than that.
You also missed the "if" in his post.
That won't happen. An even more exceptional status than what was achieved for UK in the beginning of this year would mean the end of the EU.
I posted a little earlier about a neighbour planning to join the Conservative Party so he could "at least try to influence the next leader" in the hope of stopping someone from the furthest reaches of the Conservative right.
The EU moves fast.
A Brexit task force for the negotiations has already been formed and the EU parliament demands the formal application (the article 50 thing) until Tuesday.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...t-austrittsantrag-bis-dienstag-a-1099824.html
A Brexit task force for the negotiations has already been formed and the EU parliament demands the formal application (the article 50 thing) until Tuesday.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausla...t-austrittsantrag-bis-dienstag-a-1099824.html
The sad thing in all this is that the leavers have no plan. Nothing. Zilch nada to deal with the shitstorm that is heading this way. Just look at boris and gove at the conference yesterday. You would have thought they would be cheering. Instead they looked like they were in a funeral.
Oh god the spectre of that circus clown johnson being PM is frightening in itself
Oh god the spectre of that circus clown johnson being PM is frightening in itself
Thing is, they have little power to demand that.
Glad that we're finally have a discussion about what a Leave vote means... just wish we did it a few days ago lol.
The EU doesn't control the timing it's the country triggering article 50 that does.
SporeCrawler
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Posted? EU has appointed Didier Seeuws as the chief negotiator for the Brexit treaty.
Yeah, let's see whether they find ways to enforce their demand. The coming weeks are going to be rough for UK politicians.
Yeah, can't get more right wing than wanting to stay in the EU..........................
But the independentist want secession from Spain, not the EU, or did I miss something?
German Minister of Defence: "No one will get the chance to postpone [the process of leaving EU]."
She's having none of UK's waiting game.
PdotMichael
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CyclopsRock
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From Ipsos Mori:
" Just doing some analysis that suggests if same % of young had voted as over 65s we would still be in EU..."
Assuming a similar voting trend amongst those that didn't vote as those that did.
" Just doing some analysis that suggests if same % of young had voted as over 65s we would still be in EU..."
Assuming a similar voting trend amongst those that didn't vote as those that did.
Heckler456
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Anyone know the guy? Would love to know if there is any kind of implication in choosing this specific person.
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EU is working hard to find legal ways to force UK to trigger article 50. Right down to wording in the document.
Because they thought it would be a small win for remain. And they could at least look like brave Patriots who at least had the guts to fight for the UK. Now that they'll have to actually follow through. You can see the paucity in their plans.
Its interesting that Boris has stopped the Buffon act. He knows his in deep,deep shit. And that his probably dealt his leadership ambitions a fatal blow.
You...you realize that the "money lost" remainers are talking about is the money that would go to institutions, research and co. right ?
SporeCrawler
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The shakedown begins.
He's Belgian. Been working in the Council for a while. Was also head of cabinet for previous EU President Herman van Rompuy and spokesperson for MEP Guy Verhofstadt. I think he has the center-right political affiliation (CD&V/EPP), but that shouldn't mean much in practice.
Thing also is, you wouldn't want to piss the EU even more off than it already is if you want fair maybe even favourable negotiations.
paperboywriter
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EU pressure should be good for everyone involved.
phisheep
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It is absolutely not their call. They have no say in it whatsoever, and are only making themselves look like jerks by demanding it.
Though I can't say I am surprised given what dumb things our MEPs have done in the Parliament.
Plus, that's the President of the EU parliament, not the actual parliament, so even less power than none.
Vigilant Walrus
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People use this argument for countries themselves as an argument against having nation states. You don't have anything in common with your country men either, besides a few things. Their fucking sense of nationalism can mow itself down the toilet. And while there is a validity to it (I think Nationalism is a bad omen) I think it misses the point of what the EU is and why it has been amazing.
I disagree with what you're saying because you're not taking the long view into perspective. There is no place on earth that has had as much bloodshed, war and fighting as the European continent. Due to its geographical location, Europeans emerged as military frontrunners, and as a result we have had incredible devastating wars. Our ancestors literally would not have been able to imagine a peaceful Europe where everyone is chill and trades. If we track back to just the last 3000 years of modern history, you'd see that what EU has allowed to happen is an incredible level of prosperity and peace. It's with the help of the EU that France and Britain has weeined itself of its colonial past, rather successfully all things considering.
Living on the European continent right now is amazing considering the alternative in the past. And really, if there is one good thing you can say about capitalism, it is that it has the ability to make nations not fight or obstruct one another in favor of working together due to economic gain.
Being in the European Union is not about some shared identity. I think that is a anti-globalization fallacy.
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