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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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jakonovski
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A quarter long economic and political paralysis. That's bound to have some huge consequences.
What angers me is all the cuts for austerity and they turn around and do this.
The party has the timetable to remove him, and it will be done by the start of September. Whether the new leader triggers article 50 is the big question.
I'm glad the EU has been clear about the lack of talks pre-article 50. Again, this is what needs to happen if we are to back out of this disaster.
Audioboxer
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John Oliver on Brexit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ikd7A2VuHs
Video has weird zooming to prevent copyright claim (links to JO are usually region blocked for America only).
Video has weird zooming to prevent copyright claim (links to JO are usually region blocked for America only).
There will be a new war at the right time.
Highest quality uncompressed deals!
Agreed. Got to treat them mean to keep them keen.
Alx
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It's criminal to wait that long. We're already in such a bad situation after only 3 days, can we continue like that for 60+ days more ?
I mean it ain't over till it's over. Cameron hasn't invoked Article 50 yet and that speaks volumes.
Its all to play for. The markets will squeeze the public shortly. The public will squeeze Cameron to forget this or invoke. I don't think now it's becoming clearer nothing will change and indeed worsen they will be crying out to still leave
Fuck me
ferrasvansen
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Hopefully this will mean people see sense in the end before its too late, but somehow I've lost faith in our Government, wonder why.
PdotMichael
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Merkel knows that time plays into her hands. And playing the iron lady in an election year is like the best thing that can happen to her.
ricardo_sousa11
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Someone Photoshop Cameron's head...I'm on mobile
Can this work ? Yours was too low rez.
A developing country like India with pretty much nothing to export has almost the same economy size as UK.
I watched it last night, I think I enjoy his weekly format shows more than I ever did The Daily Show. John Oliver will never let that pig fucking thing go will he?
(Nor should he)
jmvmadeira
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As one imigrant living and working in the UK for the last 20 years, married to an English born wife, both my kids born in England, the oldest one having double nationality, and on the process of doing the same to the youngest one, the above is the impresion I had about many of the voters.
Im honest, I never felt this worried in all my live , both for myself but more than anithyng else for my wife and kids
This does not bode well at all
He's a prick and he couldn't care less because it isn't his problem anymore.
what is unemployment at the moment? I thought all the dirty europeans coming over were actually working and not stealing jobs because unemployment was pretty low?
I wonder if the brexit side can spin an EEA solution by somehow focusing on non-EU immigration and trying to ignore the free movement part?
I wonder if the brexit side can spin an EEA solution by somehow focusing on non-EU immigration and trying to ignore the free movement part?
SymbiantXenos
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UKs on Fire
Shadow Cabinets terrified.
Shadow Cabinets terrified.
Camp Freddie
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My only hope is that Cameron et al are waiting for the huge backlash against Brexit and waiting for it to seep through the thick skulls of leave-voters that Brexit won't stop immigration, won't mean extra money for public services and won't mean more 'sovereignty' for Westminster (since the same disputes will be enforced by the EFTA Court instead of the ECJ).
Only once the utter failure of Brexit is clear and obvious to everyone, will it be possible for politicians to talk about abandoning the idea. If they do it now then they'll get crucified for going against "the will of the people".
Unfortunately, most leave voters give no fucks about the markets or the Tories or even Corbyn, so it might take a while for them to recognise the damage they've caused. It'll probably need huge job losses and widespread closures in highly visible public services.
I have some hope that public opinion will swing dramatically against Brexit in the next few weeks.
Oh, I just checked my pension pot. First I gave my usual laugh at the predicted pension value in 30 years time (annuities companies must base their longevity predictions on transhumanism). Then I looked at the overall valuation change and thought it wasn't doing too badly. Finally, I realised it was only because I'm heavily diversified in global stocks, so when they get converted back into pound(ed) sterling it looks like they've "gone up" and offsets the black hole in my UK equities.
My FTSE 250 tracker and UK smaller co's funds are getting pounded to fuck.
Somewhat ironically, I'm okay-ish because I'm young-ish and have a highly aggressive "growth" portfolio. People with medium risk UK "income" equity portfolios could be in a lot more trouble. Bonds look okay for now, but will be fucked if we get inflation from all the quantitative easing the BoE will end up doing.
I never thought I'd be relying on my Asian Tiger funds to provide me with stability in tough economic times. That's not the way it's supposed to go.
Only once the utter failure of Brexit is clear and obvious to everyone, will it be possible for politicians to talk about abandoning the idea. If they do it now then they'll get crucified for going against "the will of the people".
Unfortunately, most leave voters give no fucks about the markets or the Tories or even Corbyn, so it might take a while for them to recognise the damage they've caused. It'll probably need huge job losses and widespread closures in highly visible public services.
I have some hope that public opinion will swing dramatically against Brexit in the next few weeks.
Oh, I just checked my pension pot. First I gave my usual laugh at the predicted pension value in 30 years time (annuities companies must base their longevity predictions on transhumanism). Then I looked at the overall valuation change and thought it wasn't doing too badly. Finally, I realised it was only because I'm heavily diversified in global stocks, so when they get converted back into pound(ed) sterling it looks like they've "gone up" and offsets the black hole in my UK equities.
My FTSE 250 tracker and UK smaller co's funds are getting pounded to fuck.
Somewhat ironically, I'm okay-ish because I'm young-ish and have a highly aggressive "growth" portfolio. People with medium risk UK "income" equity portfolios could be in a lot more trouble. Bonds look okay for now, but will be fucked if we get inflation from all the quantitative easing the BoE will end up doing.
I never thought I'd be relying on my Asian Tiger funds to provide me with stability in tough economic times. That's not the way it's supposed to go.
Can this work ? Yours was too low rez.
Ahahaha oh jesus.
Great ! Thanks.Can this work ? Yours was too low rez.
More Fun To Compute
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Honestly I think the analysis by Gove that people no longer trust experts and facts from politicians is sound. The problem is do you look for a way to mend trust in the country or be a shameless opportunist. Twisting something that should be a concern about the fabric of society into an opportunity for career advancement is psychopathic. I think it's telling that both Boris and Gove were journalists and this is the sort of thing that doesn't bother them even slightly.
Of course, they can even refuse the referendum outright. If there is an appetite for it though, they'll probably have to eventually.
Then they could have the referendum on Scottish Independence and ignore it totally.
It's forecast to go down and everytime I look at it, it's slightly lower. Act now.
What Shadow Cabinet?
The London Government couldn't prevent jack shit right now
And we know Johnson's history of pathological lying as a journalist - he was fired for it!
Bony Manifesto
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Yes on both counts. Perhaps Labour will promise a second referendum if they need the SNP to prop up a minority government, but I can't see any other circumstances where Whitehall will willingly let Scotland go. I don't think the notion that the EU will recognise Scotland's unilateral secession from the union stands up to much scrutiny (unless Brexit negotiations with the EU turn really sour).
I laugh* at all the "now we can make our own trade deals" delusions. Besides being short on manpower, they have fuck all experience to get it all done.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/503908/54538_EU_Series_No2_Accessible.pdf
Forty.
Years.
*so that I don't have to cry at this mess
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/503908/54538_EU_Series_No2_Accessible.pdf
Forty.
Years.
*so that I don't have to cry at this mess
And on top of that, they then don't even have the balls to show up to the house of commons. I think it does bother them, but only because of personal investments and ambitions that they've fucked up rather than the entire country.
paradise_circus
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I know I wouldn't support being unnecessarily harsh on the UK. The whole reason the EU exists is to be above such shit.
If they all agree it is necessary, then that's what needs to happen, I guess.
Couldn't even stop a big clumsy cake-enthusiast like Boris Johnson from going into hiding
Other than the ones who have already lost their jobs, of course. This is bigger in terms of impact to the UK.
Where do you get your Renzi intel from?
RedSparrows
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Just saw John Oliver post-result. Man he's fucking FURIOUS. 
You understand the financial crisis has led us to 8 years of austerity with no end in sight, massive job losses, huge misery and everything else? And this is far, far worse for the Uk if we go ahead and leave?
My impression from this press conference so far: Nobody cares about the political games inside the UK, France is pointing out that the UK was always different, Merkel wants to give the UK enough time while the others seem to want to move on ASAP and Italy is pointing out this could turn out to be a great opportunity to change the EU for the better (in case you forgot Italy was also against Germany's hard handling of the Grexit crisis).
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