I guess it was an open secret amongst his inner circle and someone has leaked to the press?
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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I guess it was an open secret amongst his inner circle and someone has leaked to the press?
The worst thing is waiting for them to announce the vote doesn't matter, it was a mistake, we are staying with the same old EU deal. I don't know how they plan on doing it but it's frankly unbearable at the moment with the thought of some bell end could even have a chance of pressing the article 50 button. It's a nightmare dragging this out, how far are they going to go ? tomorrow, a week, a month before doing the right thing and calling the whole thing off. The fact that they even say the words, respect the vote etc. is frightening even though it's hopefully just lip service.
How can any country look at this outcome and say " We want this too!"?S¡mon;208495893 said:
They only want a 'nice' break-up, because they can see them self leaving, since the right-populist have a strong hold in the country. They just want to make sure, they would get treated similar nice ... which will not happen.
Campbell is still here. He ethered the lot of them over the weekend.
I remember when Gisela Stuart couldn't stop saying it on one of those TV debates.
GamerMax73
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Erm, there was a vote Thursday, the PM said it's binding when he talked to parliament today. That's as official as it's gonna get - we are out.
On a separate note we have a leadership crises, forgive us while we sort that out before making any more official statements to the European Council.
In the meantime, diplomatic courtesy suggest some informal talks would probably be prudent to help expedite matters after we've sorted out our internal political problems.
Seems to me the EU, as an organisation, and Germany want to force us into declaring article 50 at a time when we are politically on our knees. Are you really that scared someone sensible will be chosen as PM and we find a way of placating the wider British public without having to leave?
(note, I'm pro-remain and don't want to leave at all).
Darkstorne
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I've only formally protested once before, when I was 16, against the decision to join the US in invading Iraq. I won't protest against this though. I voted Remain, and I'm bitterly disappointed by the result, but I think we have to honour it if we're going to start fixing public perception of democracy and government. I can't even begin to describe how angry and conflicted I am over that moral decision though...
Spring Drive
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Shit, this thread grew fast
AHA-Lambda
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I don't really understand why the hard left hate the EU =/
Considering how much social good comes from it I'm actually quite puzzled why people like Corbyn would want to leave.
I can understand the hard right but not the hard left
Considering how much social good comes from it I'm actually quite puzzled why people like Corbyn would want to leave.
I can understand the hard right but not the hard left
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The second referendum talk is ridiculous. You don't get to redo a democratic vote because it didn't go the way you liked.
However, as the vote was non-binding, Scotland may try to block it with this second independence referendum talk. Scotland and Gibraltar being so upset are both concerns that may sway nationalists towards not wanting Article 50 invoked.
However, as the vote was non-binding, Scotland may try to block it with this second independence referendum talk. Scotland and Gibraltar being so upset are both concerns that may sway nationalists towards not wanting Article 50 invoked.
Uh... Did I just read that they expect Europe to freely let British Citizens in and out but not the other way around?
How much crack is going around at Westminister right now?
Genuine question guys.
We live in a block of flats. There's a nice Polish couple who I've spoken to a few times over the last couple of years and always say hi to me when I see them.
Our area was 61-39 Leave. Would it be stupid to maybe, I don't know, buy them a little gift or write them a card or something just to say that we're thinking of them?
We live in a block of flats. There's a nice Polish couple who I've spoken to a few times over the last couple of years and always say hi to me when I see them.
Our area was 61-39 Leave. Would it be stupid to maybe, I don't know, buy them a little gift or write them a card or something just to say that we're thinking of them?
ClosingADoor
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How come Leave now wants free movement? Wasn't that like the biggest issue they had with the EU? People coming to Britain from other countries to work there.
Or do they mean free movement as in just visa free for holidays and such? Which of course is going to happen.
ferrasvansen
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Yeah we have been busy... loads to discuss, breaking stories galore and needless ramblings too.
Sickboy007
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The definition of an unprovable lie.
It's a plot by the capitalists!! Isn't it clear that now we left the EU it's only a hop, skip and a jump to good socialist government?
We'll see I suppose!
maquiladora
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Probably more likely to be revelations about his true personal opinion rather than about his actual vote itself.
The hard left is full of purity test crazies just like the hard right.
As long as that card doesn't say "fuck off back home" it might be nice.
Where were you when the nation needed you the most? Yes, I'm talking about the international Boaty McBoatface crisis.
Be safe.
ferrasvansen
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They used immigration to win, to herd the sheep into supporting them. They had no intention of cutting immigration because it would hurt the economy.
Haven't multiple referendums/votes in recent years in other European countries done that?
Because originally the EU was much more about open markets and trade, so the conservatives were in favour and the left opposed. Since then it's flipped, and the EU has become the biggest force for workers rights and consumer protection in the UK. but relics like Jeremy Corbyn simply cannot change, *ever*. It's not what they do.
Audioboxer
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And the only thing I can think is Scotland is in the news! Yay.
America-GAF is getting to know Scotland exists!
Thornton Reed
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I've been critical of him in this thread but this sounds like a smear campaign
SuperGamer
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It was the EU that was behind the Good Friday Agreement that ended conflict in Northern Ireland. Leaving the EU would undermine the Good Friday Agreement, so the Northern Ireland separatist movement is going to gain a lot more popularity as a result.
Hardly official at all. 4 days after the referendum, no-one in the Tory party is going to say reverse the decision. The EU knows this as well, hence Merkel's tolerance for us taking our time.
I know I'm partly in denial here, but until Article 50 is triggered we are not leaving the EU, and the more and more the economy craters the less likely that is - especially if the EU is clear we can't have access to the single market without freedom of movement.
If that's all they've got, it'll be a lie.
He tweeted he voted Remain. Unless he admits it himself, or they have a recording of him admitting it in private, I won't believe it for a second.
Of course, I'd be much more inclined to believe them if they hadn't unsuccessfully spent the last two days trying to pressure him out of office.
Wouldn't surprise me. Where's that BBC News clip of him giving a pro-Remain speech in the most pathetic way possible? Just mumbled it and kept checking the script.
Zero real response or plan for the Single Market question.
Well, he could say it's none of anyone's business but that's bollocks in his position. If he refuses to answer he most certainly voted leave.
Hey, be fair! He's totally willing to change position as long as he is allowed to sabotage that side of the debate from the inside.
Everyone knows Scrooge McDuck but what the hell is going on with the US not knowing Donald Duck aka GOAT duck.
Delete your account, Micky Mouse.
Sickboy007
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anybody seen the pres conference of merkel, Hollande and Renzi? Man, Renzi is surely the most laid back, smug faced statesman ever
This is the picture you'll find if you search 'smug' on an Italian dictionary.
MistakenMobius
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GamerMax73
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Nothing, can't happen. the next general election is in May 2020. The only exceptions are:
- the new Tory lead gains permission from parliament to hold an early election
- Parliament votes no-confidence in the new Tory leader and his/her cabinet, and confidence isn't restored within 2 weeks
In all likelyhood. New PM in September - parliament will grant an early election shortly after (assuming Labour's go their shit together by then).
When one side won by completely missleading the public and nothing they've said is even remotely possible, I'd say it's fairer to redo.
Daffy Duck
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Obama would be quality.
Audioboxer
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Everyone is about to know who Roy Hodgson is. Man who broke hearts. Brexit volume 2: Let's leave the Euros.
SymbiantXenos
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England losing will be taken as an activation of Article 50.
AHA-Lambda
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Agreed, but if true I don't think he can survive it coming out that he voted leave while supporting a remain campaign.
No redo, stupid vote in the first place. I'm sticking to my phase 1-5 theory. No referendum repeat or similar is phase 1 of getting us out of this which leads to a good bunch saying the vote is shite, let's stay as we are and move on shall we, good.
TomWaitsForNoMan
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He answered on the day itself, which I'd expect a journalist to have checked
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/745886722987294720
SuperGamer
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London was the world's financial capital, according to Global Financial Centres Index, even ahead of New York. This was partly because London was like a gateway between the EU and the English-speaking world. If London takes a beating, then so does the world economy, especially the EU economy. And now it's safe to say London is no longer the world's financial capital after Brexit.
The world economy is heavily dependent on stocks and shares, just as much as assets and funds. Many economists are predicting a global recession.
GamerMax73
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He opens his mouth and tells them? Unless there were illegal cameras in the ballot booth, only he knows 100% one way or the other which way he voted.
He answered on the day itself, which I'd expect a journalist to have checked
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/745886722987294720
yeah but he doesn't look quite as cheerful as i should like, off with his head imo
AHA-Lambda
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I was saying that in the last page as well.
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