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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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toythatkills
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Nah, the average Brit just as uneducated and intolerant as the average American, there's just less of us overall so you don't notice so much.
I think this vote proves that.
ClosingADoor
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Older people voted out. Younger people wanted to stay in.
Norway also pays, per capita, a roughly similar amount to the UK to be part of the EEC, but they have no say in any EU lawmaking. If that's what the Leave camp wanted, it seems like a pretty bizarre outcome.
Yep and the conservatives in Australia will win next week and the english speaking world except Canada are completely fucked. Right Wing is spreading for some reason, I wish moving to Canada was easier, as the Right Wing rises the poor get more and more fucked over, I will never understand it either, since the poor people seem to be including themselves in this right wing uprising.
And_Gignac
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Older voters being egotistical and fucking over more intelligent younger voters is nothing new. See: this year's US Democratic Primary
AHA-Lambda
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WTF??!
Who is that woman in blue on bbc just now who admitted this was a mistake??
https://www.facebook.com/eamon.nolan.1/posts/1103579333047869
Who is that woman in blue on bbc just now who admitted this was a mistake??
https://www.facebook.com/eamon.nolan.1/posts/1103579333047869
Quick, personal question. During these past few months I've been working towards entering the Teach First program, about which you UKGAF will probably have heard. I got in and was given a conditional offer for the 2017 cohort. If I finish everything they ask, I will be giving a one-month-and-a-half course next June and put in a teaching position in a secondary school for 2 years, while I also complete a Master's in Education.
There's one problem, though: I'm Spanish and I'm living in Spain right now. I have been doing every required equivalency test they asked from me and I'm only one test away from being fully validated: the English GSCE Equivalency Test I'm takin in July. No worries here, since I'm an English philologist (I have a Bachelor's Degree in English Literature, Grammar and History, basically).
But with today's results... am I fucked? I know that *if* I decide to take the plunge and move to England next year I will be in a very precarious position. I will not be covered by the NHS and I will be at risk of being told to go away at a moment's notice. Is there even an affordable healtcare insurance package I could buy? What about my girlfriend, who wanted to move with me and get a job there, so she could apply for Teach First the following year? I'm reallly scared, because I've been working my ass off to achieve this. What do you guys think I should do?
There's one problem, though: I'm Spanish and I'm living in Spain right now. I have been doing every required equivalency test they asked from me and I'm only one test away from being fully validated: the English GSCE Equivalency Test I'm takin in July. No worries here, since I'm an English philologist (I have a Bachelor's Degree in English Literature, Grammar and History, basically).
But with today's results... am I fucked? I know that *if* I decide to take the plunge and move to England next year I will be in a very precarious position. I will not be covered by the NHS and I will be at risk of being told to go away at a moment's notice. Is there even an affordable healtcare insurance package I could buy? What about my girlfriend, who wanted to move with me and get a job there, so she could apply for Teach First the following year? I'm reallly scared, because I've been working my ass off to achieve this. What do you guys think I should do?
He seems like the only grown up right about now. Good speech he gave.
The Auxiliary
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This is effecting the global economy. And we were making such good progress after the last recession...
Red Arremer
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Spain has been bullying Gibraltar for quite a while, and that was despite both being part of the EU. It's going to be much worse from here on out. Spain might outright close up the border, or at the very least put a shitload of pressure onto Gibraltar. Someone posted a tweet earlier about Spain suggesting a joint sovereignty over it already as well.
I'm hoping the best for the people of Gibraltar. Sadly I think there's going to be a lot of problems down there.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
UK no longer 5th largest economy. France has overtaken us. https://twitter.com/LondonEconomic/status/746247581748068352
fabricated backlash
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Well earned. My only consolation is that he has to live the Rest of his life seeing his hubris playing out without a single possibility to do anything about it. Could be a modern day Greek tragedy (or Comedy)
CyclopsRock
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Yup, they aren't in a good place.
Gibraltar already has a border since Spain is in Schengen and Gibraltar(UK) isn't.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Very sad news to wake up to.
I was very lucky as a Frenchman to be able to do one year of my university cursus in London ten years ago despite having no money at all, it was all taken care of by a EU program and I learned so much there. It's sad that the younger generation won't be able to do the same.
Well, good bye England, you'll be missed.
I was very lucky as a Frenchman to be able to do one year of my university cursus in London ten years ago despite having no money at all, it was all taken care of by a EU program and I learned so much there. It's sad that the younger generation won't be able to do the same.
Well, good bye England, you'll be missed.
Hey what's up Scotland? You look good today.
I can't imagine it, it would be a poor outcome for LEAVE. If immigrant is truly the huge issue it is, people will not accept this.
Officerrob
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Older people vote, younger people complain on social media. Copy/paste for every country
It's not about 'disagreeing with you', it's about the practical-if-morbid fact that people get to vote on issues that will affect other people for decades but which they'll realistically not live to see the full effects of.
Why? they vote for shit that destroys peoples lives that have 50 years left when they only have 10 years left, that is terrifying to me.
don't think the link is working.
KonradLaw
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THat's the problem. The only way UK get access to free market and doesn't have it's financial services destroyed is by accepting the very same rules the Brexit was supposed to free the country from.
History will probably treat Blair better than Cameron. Blair had two massive whacks against him with Iraq and the economy, but before that, we had years of good times as a country with him as PM. It's been downhill with DC since the start and with the Lib Dems keeping him in line, it wasn't all bad, but this term is just all kinds of fucked.
He's limboed under John Major for sure.
Turnout stats tells us they overwhelmingly voted to stay in bed. That's where you get fucked, so no surprises really.
ClosingADoor
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But there is free movement of people and goods, just show your passport right? If Spain wants after the UK has left, they can make it much worse.
Frankfurt might take some over, with banks moving their HQ to there if needed. Too early to say, but some had said they'd do that.
That was fast.
Octavianus
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Well, this is one hell of a thing to wake up to.
Nice to know my cynicism was once again correct in predicting this I guess: people really are this stupid.
Nice to know my cynicism was once again correct in predicting this I guess: people really are this stupid.
The UK is 90% white.
The US is 72% white, 63% when you count only non-Hispanic whites.
Minorities across most groups are overwhelmingly Democratic. When allied with white liberals, it makes it very difficult for the Republicans to take the presidency these days, since the Republican Party is a white nationalist party.
Of course there would be a backlash. But the EU is simply not going to allow free access to their market without free movement of people. Otherwise we get a competitive advantage
I don't see an alternative that keeps us being able to do business with Europe, unless we accept horrible terms. We have to do this quickly too for coninuity, and almost anything other than a simple solution is likely to take more than the two years that is allowed under article 50
Miles Quaritch
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Majority of leavers were old people but they didn't vote to leave because of immigration, it was because they were worried about how undemocratic the EU is, trade treaties and the like.
Immigration was only a very small part of their decision to vote to leave the EU.
They do this in normal elections as well...What's your point? If you have a problem with democracy than fine, please, come up with an alternative system that society can agree upon.
AHA-Lambda
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Try and fix it, hate Facebook vid links
Spring Drive
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France voted 'No' to the referendum for a European Constitution in 2005, so why not
giant_frying_pan
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How about 3 movement: three people allowed in or out of England a year.
I'm a genius!!!
Short of London managing some sort of Singapore exit from the rest of England, all eyes on Frankfurt now.
nelsonroyale
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What a fuck up...I mean at the end of the day, I think it was anti-austerity sentiment (people should at least research the roots and aims of austerity) and anti-immigration (again, fucking understand what this is about), plus remote decision-making, that led to this leave vote. Its understandable that people are frustrated by the current situation, but this particular result was shameful.
I am all in for Scottish independence now. Good for Scotland and probably good for England as well. Now let's see where these shocks will lead for England. I fear more ugliness.
I am all in for Scottish independence now. Good for Scotland and probably good for England as well. Now let's see where these shocks will lead for England. I fear more ugliness.
Kornoponing
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Ah, that is what they meant, thought it might be something UK specific but it's just the common trend.
seems like this petition is gaining traction
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
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