How can you expect young people to care about politics these days? It breaks my heart.
- Betrayed by the Lib Dems in 2010
- Failed by Labour in 2015
- Forced to bear Tory austerity
- Increased tuition fees
- Lack of job opportunities
- Vote overwhelimgly to remain and are dragged out of the EU...
...it just goes on.
My point is that almost everything that the majority of young people vote for in this country is the opposite of what we get.Shouldnt that make them care much more? If everything would be going smoothly, then there wouldnt be any reason to care about politics.
So you're on the side of Farage, Putin and Trump? It's best to not make this vote a personality based one as both sides lose.
Shouldnt that make them care much more? If everything would be going smoothly, then there wouldnt be any reason to care about politics.
My field is computer science and the topic is Artificial Neural Networks, it's basically what Google is doing right now with their AlphaGo AI. It's an extremely new field with very few researchers (comparatively). But I wonder what happens to my funding now...I assume it'll be unaffected for the time being and I would go through my degree as normal since I will finish around the time the separation happens.Depends on what the PhD is in but EU funding might be a lot harder to come by now (and research is really a field where the UK gets back a lot more than it puts in) which in turn affects postdocs (you might be doing a grand to get a few million to pay for equipment and staff basically) which is already a worldwide problem of not enough professors retiring, too many people getting PhDs leading to increased competition for post doctoral positions.
Ask people in your department if they have a coffee break or something about it as they'll be a bit better qualified than someone like me (who is working on their thesis corrections and wants to leave academia...not sure what I'll be leaving it to but I don't see myself as postdoc material).
Disgusting as is anybody wanting that man in power.
Another leave voter on BBC:
"I'm excited for the future"
"I'm surprised it went this way"
"I'm shocked Cameron stepped down"
I'm beginning to believe that many leave votes were done with a heavy sense of irony.
What kind of clauses?
You know that there are other countries outside the European union that are perfectly fine right???
I still don't get how people can look at actual fascists cheering this vote and think, "Yeah, this seems like a good outcome."
It's like a Mitchell and Webb sketch come to life.
If the Remain camp actually had some good leaders and presented their arguments in a better way, I fully believe things would have been different.I do wonder if we would have remained under a credible Labour leadership.
Pretty much the case with most elections sadly.I still can't get over this. Utterly disgraceful. Most leave-voters seemed to have no fucking idea what they were voting for.
BBC.com is legally bound to be "unbiased."
Not a bad idea. Unfortunately that'll probably back fire as well. You're banking on Scotland voting Labour? They'll go yellow to guarantee their second referendum.I think Britain's best chance is to go for a second bite at the apple by holding elections. Have Labour campaign on explicitly rejecting the referendum and hope there's enough buyer's remorse. Unfortunately Corbyn is not the man the Empire needs for that job.
I saw this as well. A couple of them voted leave but were acting like they never expected it to actually happen. Like, what the fuck do you think happens when you submit a vote?
Lib dems made crazy promises that, should have been obvious were near impossible to keep, I'm sure what they were even expecting on that one.How can you elxpect young people to care about politics these days? It breaks my heart.
- Betrayed by the Lib Dems in 2010
- Failed by Labour in 2015
- Forced to bear Tory austerity
- Increased tuition fees
- Lack of job opportunities
- Vote overwhelimgly to remain and are dragged out of the EU...
...it just goes on.
Great news! I bet on the market going crazy if Brexit won, sad to hear that this will cause suffering for people but that is how capitalism works yo! I also talk with family in the UK and they voted leave so glad that they got what they wanted even if the road ahead is uncertain. In the meantime time to buy the dip or just wait out for more panic, gotta love this kind of markets.
They had Sadiq Khan on earlier. Probably waiting for that rumored Boris speech.The best cnn can do right now is an interview with Boris johnsons father wtf is this
These days even the relatively poor can get information if they really want it, no? Or maybe it's not that simple. But it just doesn't seem rational to let EVERYONE, even those who don't know a fucking thing about what they're voting for, be part of making massively important decisions like this. Like all the people who voted Leave ONLY because they're anti-immigration and don't give a single fuck (nor know anything) about any of the other consequences this will have.
The current world order and systems are simply not working and we're at the worst state probably in human history in every aspect.
Markets always overreact.
It's the wakeup call Brussels needed badly.
Shouldnt that make them care much more? If everything would be going smoothly, then there wouldnt be any reason to care about politics.
The current world order and systems are simply not working and we're at the worst state probably in human history in every aspect
nothing compared to the people responsible for the financial crisis.
See, I'm sure every one knows that both sides have agendas, so we don;t really know the REAL intentions of the leaders of both campaigns and who's lobbying behind them. So the best is to go by the track record of the current camp versus a "new thing" change is good. The current world order and systems are simply not working and we're at the worst state probably in human history in every aspect
my humble opinion, and of course I could be wrong, but so is more than 16 million respectable UK citizens. So I find it it disrespectful to dismiss them all as "stupid, irrational, racists..etc"
My point is that almost everything that the majority of young people vote for in this country is the opposite of what we get.
I wouldn't blame many for wondering what the point is.
As this letter from the FT put it you've swapped one set of elites for another set:I suspect it was more 'lower' England than 'middle'. One suspects that the working class, broadly, has said 'fuck you' to the elite that's ignored them for too long. Trouble is, they'll suffer for it.
It gets worse than that when you consider what the conservatives will be able to do about workers rights now.
I wouldn't like to be Prime Minster to be all "I got us a deal. It has free movement of people. I am now resigning as prime minster as I can't steer us to a 10s of hundreds of dozens of migrants a solar cycle". Makes me wonder if Borige will be so quick to jump up at the job opening.So, what happens when we accept free movement to get into the EU single market, will leave people rage? Can't change things from the outside. What the hell have we gained?
This is not an explanation but you're asking if second generation Asian migrants some of who largely live in Ghettos (well I once accidentally drove through a part of Luton and I wondered...am I the only white person here) don't like Polish migrants and see uncontrolled EU migrants as competition potentially holding back some of their own kind as well? (due to the ridiculous no ifs no butts tens of dozens pledge and numbers have to fall somewhere) Sorry if that was rude or offended anyone.Can anyone explain why so many Asian populated cities like Birmingham, Bradford and Luton voted to leave?
I was shocked at Birmingham as expected that to win by a landslide for remain.
'We're too full' is said by British Asians too.Can anyone explain why so many Asian populated cities like Birmingham, Bradford and Luton voted to leave?
I was shocked at Birmingham as expected that to win by a landslide for remain.
Meh, stopped caring now.
You guys shot yourself in the foot. Now I'm going to just wait for the pound to drop further and then raid Amazon for cheap stuff.
Eh, at least he's honest.Utterly disgusting post.
You're holding humanity back.
I think the governments of NI, Scotland and Gibraltar are going to be under a lot of pressure, and likely will try to reach out to the EU in order to possibly negotiate an entry into the EU should they leave the UK.
If these negotiations are successful - and it's in the EU's best interest that they are - I definitely can see these 3 territories achieve independence, and in NI's case, potentially unify with Ireland.
I think remain would have won if EU as an organization had been more adaptable, each country has different needs that has to be catered to, if you ignore the issues present and give no leeway after multiple negotiations then people will head for the exits. Sure we are better in the Europe but stubbornness to change has caused this.
The current world order and systems are simply not working and we're at the worst state probably in human history in every aspect
One of the most ignorant comments I've read in this thread. Especially in the context of fucking Europe of all places. What the actual fuck.