darkwing-buck
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So wait, what are the leaver's excuses when everything goes to shit?
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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amazing.
John Oliver debunked that number recently in his show by the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8
But overall that's really worrying, a lot of recent politics is very much centered on lies and it makes my scared that Trump might win as well, just based on people ignoring facts.
Always-honest
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Yeah. Let's hope nothing terrible happens that will cause ignorant scared people to vote for Wilders massively. With scared people, a dramatic turnaround can happen within one day.
the internet and anonymity has proven to be an effective social engineering weapon. Put blood in the water as anyone from anywhere.
look at some of the flags and tags on some choice posters on gaf even...
choco-fish
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Nicola Sturgeon has just said another Scottish referendum is "on the table"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120
ZanzibarBreeze
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World Service very intent on not giving Sturgeon airtime. How hard is it to broadcast more than five seconds of a speech at once
Birmingham counted counties around it too, no?
Jezbollah
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It really does baffle me that they've only lost 4.5% on the FTSE today.
All the traders must have had major contingency plans ready, and also have been comforted by Mark Carney's words.
No, there were other voting regions in the Warwickshire area.
All the traders must have had major contingency plans ready, and also have been comforted by Mark Carney's words.
No, there were other voting regions in the Warwickshire area.
Brussels, EU being vindictive and if that doesn't work; blame it on the French.
geordiemp
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Well, we import more than export, so if all parties slap a 10 % tarrif on, UK will be in positive and make money. Will that work out great ?
France CAC down almost 9 %. Just wait a week or so, just goes to show UK economy will be fine.
Led_Zeppelin
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People talking about foreign exchange currency always makes me laugh at their ignorance no matter how bad their situation is. I mean the current rate is barely below what it was a week ago (1.380 24/06/16 against 1.406 16/06/16), while I understand their fears about job security maybe talking about something you clearly don't understand shouldn't be something you should be doing.
paperboywriter
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Not sure whats worse, voting for this or voting for trump. god fucking damn it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
mavericktopgun
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#SCRUK right?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Hmmmm... https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/746285930613440513
"We cannot turn our backs on Europe- we are part of Europe" -boris.
"We cannot turn our backs on Europe- we are part of Europe" -boris.
Chû Totoro
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Was brexit in the clause?
Cool. I mean, that is going to continue regardless in the poorer areas in or out of the EU with our current government, but cool none the less.
AHA-Lambda
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Phillipe Lambert getting torn into Caneron for leaving before Article 50
darkwing-buck
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jesus christ, calling this a shitshow is an understatement, my condolances UK GAF
Boy Wander
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So wanting a better degree of control over our affairs is racism now is it?
PJV3
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We're also 2 years away from shit really hitting the fan.
Worked for Singapore.
London in itself voted for remain by an overwhelming majority. The lives and livelyhoods of everyone in it and the home counties around it are being uprooted and likely destroyed in some cases because of the outcome of this vote.
This is the only situation where I can see a real democracy.
Paasei
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Congratulations UK, you voted for a better future 
Now I hope the rest will follow and we'll go back to an EEC and NOTHING more than that.
Showed the non democratic EU ministers and the multinationals who make billions of dollars that the people are more important.
Too bad there are still so many people that they manipulated through fear and doom scenario's.
Now I hope the rest will follow and we'll go back to an EEC and NOTHING more than that.
Showed the non democratic EU ministers and the multinationals who make billions of dollars that the people are more important.
Too bad there are still so many people that they manipulated through fear and doom scenario's.
Lord, a skulldragging.
None, we've just done this yesterday.
Sour people because they didn't get the result they wanted.
Disgusting.
Dutch Gronk
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You think simple people will understand this? They are cheering on Wilders as we speak, scared of the immigrants stealing their jobs!!! We must leave the Euro paper pushers who only cost us moneh!!!!
I really don't think many people realise how much EU funding comes into the UK for various things. That is my main concern about us now leaving.
We've said "we want out", but they haven't put forward any ideas on how we will be when we are out.
This is my concern about this. As someone with prolonged medical issues, as does my partner, I'm concerned that the NHS is going to buckle because money has to come from somewhere and there are going to be cuts and tax rises across the board to offset the withdrawal of EU funding in areas such as science, architecture etc.
I do hope my concerns are unjustified
We've said "we want out", but they haven't put forward any ideas on how we will be when we are out.
This is my concern about this. As someone with prolonged medical issues, as does my partner, I'm concerned that the NHS is going to buckle because money has to come from somewhere and there are going to be cuts and tax rises across the board to offset the withdrawal of EU funding in areas such as science, architecture etc.
I do hope my concerns are unjustified
this guy are sick
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Chû Totoro;208211512 said:What?!?
"lol why'd you keep calling us racists though?"
Camp Freddie
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They won't impose sanctions or discriminatory tarrifs and they can't under WTO rules.
They will have to apply the same tariffs they apply to other non-EU countries, unless we do a trade agreement.
Whether we are 'punished' for leaving is a nuanced issue. We can't be 'punished' more than any other current non-EU country, so long as we ourselves don't break WTO rules. But not having single market trade terms is essentially a self-inflicted punishment relative to the status quo, and it would be exceptionally hard to get a good deal without accepting Norwegian/Swiss terms.
I do agree that VW/BMW/Merc will be shitting their pants though, since the weaker pound means we won't be able to afford their cars (or that they'll have to lower their prices/profit for the UK).
We want their cars and have no domestic industry to protect, so Boris/Gove can't and won't threaten Germany with a 30% import tariff or something.
And despite the huge size of the German car industry, it's still a small piece of the pie in a free trade deal with an EU-size economy.
Both us and the EU will want a trade deal on cars, and maybe we can leverage that to cover some other similar goods (machines and tech), but it won't help with other goods and services upon which our economy relies.
Regardless of what deal we get, it is unlikely to be quick. The EU just don't do quick, due to all the checks and balances that generally require only a small disagreement to bring everything to a halt.
Ironically, the checks and balances that stop a Federal Europe from forming or Turkey from joining are the same ones that will harm us now.
well yeah it's the SNP. It's not going to happen any time soon though.
I can't tell if this is directed at the people voting Leave or the people upset that Leave won.
Agent Gibbs
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As a remain voter I whole heartedly disagree with Sturgeon there, whilst she may not like the result (as I do not) it was more democratic than most decisions as the actual people voted for it in a referendum which saw the highest voter turn out for decades! to say that is undemocratic shows she does not understand democracy - all governments in a democracy are there to serve the public will at their pleasure!
Furthermore its not as if Scotland unanimously voted to stay, a huge number of their populace voted to leave too.
anyway, today I am whole heartedly scared for my nation, yesterday I was a British European, proud of my nation, disliking its current government, thinking the EU was flawed but needed reform from within
Today I am just British it seems, hated by Europeans despite still being one, with a collapsing government and no say in what happens to the potentially sinking ship we left! With a pound now at its lowest since the 1980's, the leave campaign back tracking on spending the saved money on the NHS and potentially Borris Johnson being my next 'leader' a man who wants to privatise the NHS
today I weep
But that's literally what we just did. Seriously doubt we're going to be "friends with benefits" with the EU like Boris wants us to be.
"EU-driven conspiracy" or something along the lines would be my guess.
maladroit
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do you really expect rationality and logic in a thread where people seem to be implying that as you age your vote and opinions should count for less since you'll be dead sooner than babies?
ferrasvansen
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It will happen and with Boris in charge it will be a very easy yes win, no one will embolden the Scots more than him.
Majukun
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And Matteo Salvini in Italy too,albeit not as popular as the other 2 probably
The entirety of China's investment and partnership with the UK was based on the idea that the UK was in the EU, and would act as the gateway in a similar way it does for the USA. Without the EU, the UK really isn't worth dealing with in the same way to China.
And you think that's because of the EU and not your right-winged government's austerity measures?
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