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Torment: Tides of Numenera Kickstarter by InXile [Complete; $4.3 million funded]
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Yeah you sure are a wonderful human being.
Serious answer: READ OP
MightyHedgehog
Member
Ho-lee mo-lee! One million in just under seven hours.
Hooray for wealthy video game nerds lol.
They adressed this in a letter. Basically, if they wait until after WL2 is shipped, then they lose continuity. They have two teams. A "pre-production" team, and a "production" team. The pre-production people are done with WL2, and they're starting on Torment. By the time production is ready to go on Torment, WL2 will be done, so they can roll over their production team to the new project without having everyone wait around to secure funding for the new project.
If they waited until after WL2 shipped, they'd have this 8-month pre-production gap.
I just backed myself. Wasn't going to, but I was reading about Numenera and it sounds cool.
That's a great premise.
I think it's safe to say that the oldschool RPG fans have a lot of disposable income 
The kickstarter of Monte Cook's Numenera setting eventually reached 517K, over 25 times the 20k goal. That's "just" the pen & paper RPG rulebook. But of course it's by Monte Cook, who is considered hardcore even in D&D circles.
The kickstarter of Monte Cook's Numenera setting eventually reached 517K, over 25 times the 20k goal. That's "just" the pen & paper RPG rulebook. But of course it's by Monte Cook, who is considered hardcore even in D&D circles.
Indeed, holy fucking shit.
Well, imagine if a Torment fan didn't have the internet today. By tomorrow, not only will they see that the Kickstarter for Torment: Tides of Numenera has been started, successfully funded, but also that half of the limited quantity pledge tiers are gone.
There will be quite a few people I forsee doing exactly this in the near future, and screaming "nooooo" at the internets for not knowing sooner.
1 million dollars!
Lol. I love that movie
Delusibeta
Banned
I think that's the fastest Kickstarter to hit the million mark.
And this is why kickstarter is such a good idea.
Even if Project Eternity will fall horribly on market because non RPG fans won't like it they still can go to kickstarter and make another game for their fans.
Kickstarter currently if godsend for RPG loving people. Even if kickstarter games will bomb because those games are to hard/to good for mass market we as community can fund next games.
In best case snenario Obsidian will be rich as fuck and won't need to use kickstarter.
In worst case scenario they will go back to kickstarter.
Either way we still get out beloved RPGs.
Because of this situation I don't really understand why some tiers (especially in the $100-$500 range) have such hard limits on them. Maybe it's just social engineering and they'll increase them in the future.
Beelzeboss
Member
The game was announced and funded before I could even wake up.
Good job guys.
Good job guys.
A stinker as a result from KS is immeasurably easier to accept than some "AAA" reboot stinker by a billion dollar company looking to make some money.
I'm sure that the people who backed Wasteland 2 will enjoy what they see from current evidence, even if the game is a critical (slightly unlikely) and commercial (probably more likely) bomb.
I'm with Evilore on Project Eternity more though, that does have more of a chance of completely cocking up in my view, and I backed that one, so I hope that does work out well.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Pre-fucking-cisely!
I hope so too since I can only pay via PayPal and with things selling right now I won't have a chance for a boxed copy...
Yep:
$1mln in less than 7 hours - Torment
$1mln in 26 hours - Project Eternity
If they will have as good updates as Project Eternity and if their kickstarter will go same way as any other big profile kickstarter.... we are looking at 6 to 8 mln of dollars.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Yep.
I'm going ahead and kickstarting most of these, so I can just sit back and enjoy some good ol' old school RPGs once next-gen overwhelms us with linear ACTION ADVENTURE AAA RPGs.
This sounds like a sci-fi version of Planescape: Torment, so I'm totally in.
The difference as far as I'm concerned is that Obsidian have proven themselves. They can make good games. They do make good games. Not always (Dungeon Siege III), but they have a solid track record. They may be a little rough around the edges, but they are generally a good, solid developer as their recent output shows:
Fallout New Vegas
Alpha Protocol
Never Winter Nights 2
KOTOR2.
InXile's recent production by comparison has been pretty shitty:
Hunter the Demon Forge
Choplifter HD
Line Rider
Baby Pals
Hei$T
There really is no way ways around it. The difference between these two companies is pretty night and day.
This is kind of unknown, I mean, these are renowned developers with the tools to make awesome stuff but shit can always go wrong i.e. DFA, and they could still screw up on their own and make a bad game (look at Obs' terrible co-op design decisions in DSIII).
I mean, nothing's for certain, all we can do is have faith in them and hope we were right to trust them with our support.
I'm actually pleased as punch this one went so fast. The game will get made, I can ignore the Kickstarter element and evaluate the product once it's available and not feel pressured to donate to inXile a second time before seeing how they do with Wasteland 2.
Yeah, I think for Torment to not hit a crazy plateau it needs to have some kick ass stretch goals. They need to have stuff to get people even more excited/to raise their pledges.
I fully believe Avellone will be stretch goal.
If Avellone is stretch goal this kickstarter will get more money than Star Citizent did in 40 days with after campain support.
This is true, and why I went with a low pledge on the Wasteland 2 kickstarter.
However, unlike many others it seems, my confidence into them since that kickstarter launched has increased, not decreased. All the updates, their new team members, the gameplay video of Wasteland 2 and their pitch for Torment give me a solid feeling that they can accomplish what they are setting out to do -- at least to some degree. And really, that's all that is needed.
trab pu kcip
Member
but there must be a reason avellone wasn't in it right from the start.
or do you believe they tricked us and to make him a stretch goal is an elaborate scheme that has been planned out right away?
inXile might not have the game design prestige of Obsidian, and the demo of Wasteland 2 does look pretty rough especially in the loose mechanics which are currently implemented, but goddamn somehow they always get amazing artists on board. I wish Project Eternity looked as good as the concept art from WL2 and Torment so far.
This sounds VERY close to dying Earth type stuff here, just that I guess the Sun's still healthy. That alone has me interested really, it's a kind of setting not regularly explored in games, not this well anyway. Closest recent example that comes to mind comes in the form of a late game twist in
Etrian Odyssey 1, and thus seemingly the rest of the series.
Incidentally, little wonder someone with a Book of the New Sun avatar is in this thread!
Perhaps. But it is easy to misrepresent progress. Aliens Colonel Marines looked pretty alright in all those press videos too...
I guess I would would feel a lot more comfortable if I had already played Wasteland 2 or even if they had released a public demo/beta or something.
The team he's got?
How about, the second half of the game will be just as good as the first?
Because quality dropped a lot in P:T after you left Sigil. I know it was a time/budget thing, but it still sucks.
Stretch goals like "new environment, +5 hours of gameplay : 400k" would be awesome.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Well, if it helps, I think it's important to point out that we all value development studios for their past output, but know it came from a specific grouping of lead creatives who can plan and execute a game worth playing. It's fair to note that the lead creatives behind WL2 and T:ToN aren't the same as the ones behind their past output. I mean, people idolize or vilify a single person in the development community, but it's still a team sport and a new or different roster is a new or different team.
inXile might not have the game design prestige of Obsidian, and the demo of Wasteland 2 does look pretty rough especially in the loose mechanics which are currently implemented, but goddamn somehow they always get amazing artists on board. I wish Project Eternity looked as good as the concept art from WL2 and Torment so far.
projecteternitywaterfall.jpg
The gameplay video of WL2 looked pretty solid to me. I guess I'm just a sucker for that kind of thing though.
Edit: Either way I'm content to keep on backing projects that align with what I want to see in video games than suffer through another generation of AAA shoot em bang up's. Even if that backing ends up with a dud every once in a while.
Edit: Either way I'm content to keep on backing projects that align with what I want to see in video games than suffer through another generation of AAA shoot em bang up's. Even if that backing ends up with a dud every once in a while.
Completely different game type ? Fargo was head of Interplay and has skill and knowledge to create fantastic RPG but he never created arcade games.
Answer yourself.
If that happens, I'll up my pledge to the $125. I'm not sure it'll happen, though.
He didn't sound very enthusiastic about it in his support video, like he was disappointed he's not in his dream project, but maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Who knows, maybe he was simply tired. I don't get the guy, really. His writing is great and he seems very clever, yet he absolutely sucks at playing Arcanum lol.
What constitutes a commercial bomb? Wasteland 2 has raised ~3 million (~4 with Paypal) from ~60k people (maybe ~80k with Paypal?). Is selling 80k copies of a game that costs 4 million to make successful?
Then you gotta figure sales only go up once the game is actually released. How many copies do they sell on digital download? 100k? 250k?
I think for a small team (~25 people) that results in a relative commercial hit.
Aquamarine
Member
Dropped $1 grand on this. Words cannot describe how much I loved the original Planescape: Torment. Jumping for joy at this game.
:')
:')
Showing all your cards in poker game is bad.
Pics or didn't happen.
No kidding. I was really not expecting the game to look as great as it did in that video. I was pleasantly surprised. That video just hit all the right notes. I went and bought the game on their website after watching it.