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Tribes: Ascend |OT| SHAZBOT! SHAZBOT! SHAZBOT! WHOOHOO! (Now officially out of beta)
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None of the full autos are really meh at all outside of the Soldier's original AR, and that's still a decent weapon. The Tech's SMG(s) is one of the most brutally effective weapons in the game and the Soldier's new Gast's Rifle is a direct upgrade over his previous underpowered AR, and combined with Quick Draw (+ new reload speed) and the Thumper DX has made the current Soldier a popular class and solid alternative to the Raider. The Inf's Rhino SMG - especially the Arctic variant - will also cut through a player like a knife through butter.
What's meh as far as bullet weapons is the Pathfinder's semi-auto LAR, which they've done screwed up even more.
PhoenixDark
Banned
I'm planning on getting this game, although I've never played Tribes. Gameplay looks pretty fast, but how are the controls? Also is CTF the only team based mode?
I think all the modes are team based. Controls are pretty standard fps: WASD for movement, left mouse to fire your weapon, right mouse to jump/activate jetpack. Spacebar to start skiing.
It's not hard, even my brother can play this and the last time he played a pc shooter was around the time UT99 and Tribes 2 were out.
It's not hard, even my brother can play this and the last time he played a pc shooter was around the time UT99 and Tribes 2 were out.
Another day. Been getting much better at Blue Plating since I started to practice it. I seem to rack up about 3 now a game. Some games more even(Top so far has been 7).
I did get into another match with Anarchy and he ended up with 11 compared to my 5... So I clearly have a long way to go. Though mine have been strictly with PTH.
Also started to play around with the Inf pistol since most of the matches have such a low level influx of players. Got called out by a player for hacking too while doing it. I think this is the first game since I was in High School(Maybe Unreal 2k4 or Socom), where I got called out for being too good
I did get into another match with Anarchy and he ended up with 11 compared to my 5... So I clearly have a long way to go. Though mine have been strictly with PTH.
Also started to play around with the Inf pistol since most of the matches have such a low level influx of players. Got called out by a player for hacking too while doing it. I think this is the first game since I was in High School(Maybe Unreal 2k4 or Socom), where I got called out for being too good
XANDER CAGE
Member
I bought the starter pack, see my gold, but not my XP boost or unlocks or whatever. What am I missing? I haven't played since beta.
Why not put it on Steam? You can create a folder in the Common root and drop the files you already have in there. Then validate caches in Steam and you're good to go.
I would only spend gold on Daily Deals with at least -60% discount. Most of the other stuff, especially classes are rather cheap to unlock (save for new and expensive weapons). Try to at least win a game daily, it gives you 1200XP bonus which resets at 10 GMT (?).
Some common newbie errors:
Don't play capture the flag as Team Deathmatch, if you want to kill stuff, either help defending your flag or clear the enemy flagstand. Generator is only the second priority over capping and defending.
If your flag gets dropped in a save spot, do not return it. Usually more advanced players will bounce around the flag with their explosive weapons, which is a good indicator for that. It is much harder for the enemy to get the flag in an obstructive spot. But if one of your guys is close to capping with the enemy flag, return it, but do so close to his arrival at the flag stand.
Spend your credits. They expire after a round anyway and do not impact XP. Upgrade stuff, call in inventory stations for your defenders, save a tactical strike to emergency kill an enemy flag carrier.
Don't llama grab, leave taking the flag to Pathfinders. If you want to try it, make sure you go as fast as possible (>150 KM/h) and have a route planned out. If you can avert an imminent enemy cap, you can take the flag and try to flee ("E-Grab") if no other/faster player is incoming.
This worked perfectly, thanks.
legacyzero
Banned
Love this game. and the $5 starter pack helped too.
I wish there was more people from my region playing. Can only get decent ping in matches with 6 or 8 people
anyway, loving it. I love love love Tribes 1 and 2 but hate the f2p model so when this was announced I just frowned and asumed Tribes was dead (specially after the failed attempt at a revival), boy was I wrong. I still dont like some aspects of the model, but really enjoying my time with it.
anyway, loving it. I love love love Tribes 1 and 2 but hate the f2p model so when this was announced I just frowned and asumed Tribes was dead (specially after the failed attempt at a revival), boy was I wrong. I still dont like some aspects of the model, but really enjoying my time with it.
It's an Unreal Engine 3 game so it doesn't have native AA. I'm not sure about Nvidia cards, but you can always give it a try.
TheFightingFish
Member
So I just fired this up for this first time in a couple of months. What's with all the leveling changes? After a match or two I kept getting updates about new item unlocks without purchasing anything. Did they change things around with unlocking?
Still such a fun game though, I'm low level but I rather enjoy playing HoF with Doombringer, at least until the Orbital Strike spam starts up near the end game.
Still such a fun game though, I'm low level but I rather enjoy playing HoF with Doombringer, at least until the Orbital Strike spam starts up near the end game.
nillapuddin
Member
Now your experience goes towards your weapon upgrades instead of exclusively buying them all
or you can pay out 15k to instantly master any weapon/item
i wish they had this system back in the day, I would have saved alot of money trying out classes I didnt stick with
A fully charged shot is like 520ish damage with both plasma and the normal rifle, unless your shooting from your base to the enemies base as it has fall off damage, hence why you would do less damage.
Matchmaking changes, Oh Boy.
Basically high level players get high level players now. Its been much better skill-wise, though its pretty obnoxious at the amount of snipers in the games now. With each team stacking 2-3. Showing off how poorly balanced certain parts are. But its actually great to get into games where you have to chase, go fast, etc. Rather than 2-3 players on each team doing all the carrying.
Not to inherently say teamwork is better either. But I'm now up against people who can Blue Plate, chase without just relying on random bullet spam, etc. So I have to go through the Rocky Montage to get back up to par after months of weak competition outside the occasional player or two. Basically, there hasn't really been a game I played in months that required me to go 300+ constantly, like there is now.
Hard as shit to chase though since nearly every player can one jump clear it. Making camping the other flag base more common. That is the downside. So you end up with a lot of base switching.
Basically high level players get high level players now. Its been much better skill-wise, though its pretty obnoxious at the amount of snipers in the games now. With each team stacking 2-3. Showing off how poorly balanced certain parts are. But its actually great to get into games where you have to chase, go fast, etc. Rather than 2-3 players on each team doing all the carrying.
Not to inherently say teamwork is better either. But I'm now up against people who can Blue Plate, chase without just relying on random bullet spam, etc. So I have to go through the Rocky Montage to get back up to par after months of weak competition outside the occasional player or two. Basically, there hasn't really been a game I played in months that required me to go 300+ constantly, like there is now.
Hard as shit to chase though since nearly every player can one jump clear it. Making camping the other flag base more common. That is the downside. So you end up with a lot of base switching.
New matchmaking is so awesome. CTF Pubs are now fun. Far fewer people playing capture the gen, actual roles are being filled, llama grabs are kept to a minimum, and people are actually able to use voice commands like VFS that others actually listen to.
It also has the side benefit of sometimes keeping teams on each side smaller since there are less high-ranks out there. I still played quite a few 16v16s, but also some 10v10s and less that were quite enjoyable. The funny thing is that even in those 10v10s, servers still seem more full than your typical 16v16 since you don't have half the team on each side sitting in the gen room.
Tweak should ease newer players more effectively as well. I think the new matchmaking mostly just affects CTF, where it was most necessary since that requires the most coordination.
Also new upcoming patch is quite intriguing. From Hi-Rez Stew:
Tons of stuff in there. Jackal nerfed so it can no longer one-shot mediums, fractals nerfed all-around, LAR buffed, Soldier's proximity gren damage buffed (nice for Soldier stand D), Close Combat & Sonic Punch buffs (fun times with Inf), new CTF maps, some sort of early party system.
Buffed disc-jumps overall w/ nerfed impulses may do interesting things with chasing. Safe Fall tweaks look like it will have quite the effect - opening up new possible routes - and is also a kick in the balls to Shrikers.
One of the most intriguing things is the new Spinfusor variant combined with the bigger hitbox on midairs with it, bolts and thumpers. The Twinfusor apparently gives you two shots in each clip with a longer reload, and that plus the bigger hitbox should make fusors a bit more popular again and Blue Plates easier to attain for people who tend to struggle with them. And in the hands of anyone who can already Blue Plate well (cough), it's going to be a monster. Autos are still likely to remain kings, but hopefully this will at least mean more Spinfusor action in TDM and especially Arena.
The things I do find very questionable are the damage and clip nerfs on the DMB's Chaingun and Chain Cannon. As it stands, a Raider with good NJ5 aim can savage even a good DMB, so unless they also plan to nerf the NJ5, I'm wondering what they're thinking here. And players with good auto aim in general can be a nuissance to a DMB because heavies are so easy to hit.
Seems like the DMB nerf is mostly because of how obnoxious people use that class in TDM and Arena, but the game is generally balanced around CTF anyway, and in that mode it screws with things. As someone who can regularly chain out DMBs, I don't want that made any easier for me, heh.
It also has the side benefit of sometimes keeping teams on each side smaller since there are less high-ranks out there. I still played quite a few 16v16s, but also some 10v10s and less that were quite enjoyable. The funny thing is that even in those 10v10s, servers still seem more full than your typical 16v16 since you don't have half the team on each side sitting in the gen room.
Tweak should ease newer players more effectively as well. I think the new matchmaking mostly just affects CTF, where it was most necessary since that requires the most coordination.
Also new upcoming patch is quite intriguing. From Hi-Rez Stew:
The next patch is tentatively scheduled to be released sometime next week. We are close to locking the release, but it is possible that some things could fall out, or that the patch could be delayed, based on our testing. We could also decide from testing to change some items -- or abort them altogether. Or add some additional items.
You get the picture: Don't hold me to this.
That said, here are some of the things currently being considered for the patch.
Major Highlights
Three new weapons added: The Pathfinder’s Light Twinfusor, the Soldier’s Twinfusor and Juggernaut’s Heavy Twinfusor.
A new gametype, CTF Blitz, will be introduced for a limited time as a Special Event. In Blitz, the enemy flag base moves location each time your team scores, changing routes and requiring varied tactics to win. CTF Blitz is initially played on:
Arx Novena
Katabatic
Stonehenge has been added to the standard CTF map rotation.
A new CTF Map, Permafrost, has been added to the standard map rotation.
A new CTF Map, Dangerous Crossing, has been added to custom servers.
New Players joining the queue (under rank 6) will now play a smaller subset of maps more friendly
to learning the game. All maps will rotate for players rank 6 and over.
Players may now create a party of their friends before joining the Quick Match queues (Limit 4). You may still use the Join Friends functionality to join a player in a match in progress.
Access through the popout tab on the Play Now option.
The Leader may send invites to friends and others by name.
Members can chat together in and out of game, and are notified when the Leader joins or leaves a queue.
Members are removed from the party automatically if they leave the queue or game.
Three new skins have been added:
Pathfinder Freerunner
Brute Crusher
Sentinel Specter
Voicepacks are now available to purchase. Three are available, two female and one male.
Players may now add a Clan Tag in front of their player name. Tags may be purchased under the Store menu.
Some changes have been made to the underlying system for putting players into matches, and for matching players of similar levels.
Additional load out slots have been added.
News Items now display in the main game lobby as a ticker at the bottom of the screen.
Weapon/Balance Items
Three new weapons have been added: The Pathfinder’s Light Twinfusor, the Soldier’s Twinfusor and Juggernaut’s Heavy Twinfusor.
Increased self-knockback (“disk-jumping” or “rocket-jumping”
Increased projectile collision size on all Spinfusors, Bolt Launchers, and Thumpers to 10 (as a reference, Plasma Guns are 35). This will make mid-airs and direct hits more forgiving.
Decreased the extra delay between bursts on Pathfinder’s LAR from 0.16s to 0.072s.
Increased damage by 8% on Doombringer’s Titan Launcher.
Increased radius on each explosion sequence of Brute’s Gladiator.
Increased damage 33% on final explosion sequence of Brute’s Gladiator.
Decreased starting AOE range on Brute’s Fractal Grenade and Extended Fractal by 10%.
Decreased damage on Brute’s Fractal Grenade and Extended Fractal by 10%.
Reduced duration of Brute’s Fractal Grenade and Extended Fractal by 1s.
Reduced damage on Infiltrator’s Jackal so it can no longer 1 shot an upgraded medium from
stealth. This is a 16% reduction.
Reduced knockback on Infiltrator’s Jackal by half for each explosion.
Increased starting ammo counts on Infiltrator’s Smoke Grenade and Prism Mine from 1 to 2.
Infiltrator now starts with all belt options having an ammo count of 2.
Reduced knockback from Pathfinder’s Impact Nitron and Compact Nitron’s by 23% to be more in line with the amount of damage being done, and to favor using the increased values on spinfusors
and other projectile weapons.
Reduced knockback from Raider’s White Out grenade, Grenade Launcher, Arx Buster and Dust
Devil to be more appropriate for the number of shots and amount of damage being done.
Reduced reload time on Doombringer’s Titan Launcher from 1.8 to 1.7.
Reduced reload time on Doombringer’s Heavy Bolt Launcher from 1.8 to 1.7.
Increased damage on Soldier's Proximity Grenade by 16%.
Reduced damage 4% on Doombringer's Chain Cannon.
Reduced damage 5% on Doombringer's Chaingun.
Reduced starting ammo from 280 to 200 and upgrades from 50 to 25 ammo (each) on
Doombringer’s Chaingun and Chain Cannon.
Reduced damage 5% on Technician’s Rockwind SMG.
Increased damage 14% on Doombringer's Defective Frag Grenade.
Increased damage 13% on Doombringer’s Frag Grenade.
The Close Combat perk’s backstab bonus has been increased to double damage, and is now the first unlock for the perk.
The Looter Perk has been increased to provide a base 50% ammo bonus, and upgrades to 100%.
The Sonic Punch Perk has had its shockwave distance increased by 23%.
The Stealthy Perk now reduces base sensor detection by 50%, upgraded to 90%, and the upgrade for turret targeting delay has been increased to 30%.
The Safefall perk now starts at 50% falling and splat damage reduction, and is upgraded to immunity from all falling and splat damage. In addition, its final unlock has been increased from 80% vehicle run over damage reduction to immunity from vehicle run over damage.
Additional Items
Fixed an issue where mines could be indestructible by AOE blasts if placed in certain places in various maps.
Flag model no longer shows in first-person spectate mode.
Spectators can now zoom in and out when viewing a vehicle.
Fixed an issue where the camera could look strange if spectating in first-person mode and the view target entered a vehicle.
Fixed an exploit where the Pathfinder’s Thrust Pack could have unlimited thrust energy.
Fixed an issue where shotguns would only reload one ammo when performing an inactive reload.
Fixed an issue where the sound on the Pathfinder’s Light Assault Rifle would cut out when firing repeatedly.
Fixed an issue where guns that deal multiple damage per shot, such as shotguns, properly display damage numbers when shooting objectives and vehicles. Before the fix, the numbers would draw on top of each other making it seem like there was only a single instance of damage.
In the VGS menu, the labels for “Turrets” and “Sensors” were swapped under the upgrade commands.
Fixed an issue where the detection radius of a Base Radar Sensor was not increasing as it upgrades.
Base XP is now earned on Custom Servers at all times. “Performance XP” is earned once 6 people join the server.
Several other miscellaneous bug fixes.
Tons of stuff in there. Jackal nerfed so it can no longer one-shot mediums, fractals nerfed all-around, LAR buffed, Soldier's proximity gren damage buffed (nice for Soldier stand D), Close Combat & Sonic Punch buffs (fun times with Inf), new CTF maps, some sort of early party system.
Buffed disc-jumps overall w/ nerfed impulses may do interesting things with chasing. Safe Fall tweaks look like it will have quite the effect - opening up new possible routes - and is also a kick in the balls to Shrikers.
One of the most intriguing things is the new Spinfusor variant combined with the bigger hitbox on midairs with it, bolts and thumpers. The Twinfusor apparently gives you two shots in each clip with a longer reload, and that plus the bigger hitbox should make fusors a bit more popular again and Blue Plates easier to attain for people who tend to struggle with them. And in the hands of anyone who can already Blue Plate well (cough), it's going to be a monster. Autos are still likely to remain kings, but hopefully this will at least mean more Spinfusor action in TDM and especially Arena.
The things I do find very questionable are the damage and clip nerfs on the DMB's Chaingun and Chain Cannon. As it stands, a Raider with good NJ5 aim can savage even a good DMB, so unless they also plan to nerf the NJ5, I'm wondering what they're thinking here. And players with good auto aim in general can be a nuissance to a DMB because heavies are so easy to hit.
Seems like the DMB nerf is mostly because of how obnoxious people use that class in TDM and Arena, but the game is generally balanced around CTF anyway, and in that mode it screws with things. As someone who can regularly chain out DMBs, I don't want that made any easier for me, heh.
Canis lupus
Member
Its a really solid game, maps are really big tho.
Yeah it's meant to go in tandem with the CG nerfs, I guess, but it's odd. The CG damage nerf is fairly trivial but the ammo nerf is potentially significant. A HoF will have to run to ammo stations more often to restock, which leaves the flag stand open, and that in turn also screws with the primary purpose of the Titan Launcher - smashing an incoming capper. Also just makes the DMB even more open to harassment, especially by Raider offense. Guess we'll see how it plays out.
Disappointing that there isn't a nerf to the quick fuse grens, like AOE. Those things are just silly.
lol yeah
I don't mind them too much though since they give newer, more tentative players a way to at least pretend to get involved.
Sabers are at least a lot less common since the addition of the Titan. Bronze players will use it a lot but in the higher ranks it's typically CG + Titan Launcher.
I don't mind them too much though since they give newer, more tentative players a way to at least pretend to get involved.
Sabers are at least a lot less common since the addition of the Titan. Bronze players will use it a lot but in the higher ranks it's typically CG + Titan Launcher.
I've never played tribes but this game has me hooked. It feels like a fresh take on shooters to me. The game feels complex but I believe it's worth learning. I tend to like setting up traps so I'm going with technician. Any other classes have abilities for enemies to walk into danger?
spindoctor
Member
Sentinels have claymores. Doombringers have mines. Both can be very useful if set up at chokepoints or on the flag. Infiltrators have prism mines but I don't think they're very good.
Prism mines are as good as the others, but they're kinda expensive and are in the same slot the sticky grenades, which are invaluable in the offense. Doombringers mines are a no-brainer if you do HoF and Claymores are stock equipment for the SEN, thats why you rarely see the prism mines.
spindoctor
Member
Yea stickies are just way more useful to an infiltrator. Not to mention the prism mines have long green lines sticking out of them just in case any enemy didn't spot them normally
I would imagine it's rare to see a successful prism detonation.spindoctor
Member
I'm not seeing much change in the matchmaking. I'm level 18 now and I regularly see level 30s and level 8s in my games. I guess some people could be joining through friends but it's a bit too common to notice any effect of the new matchmaking system.
Weird, but could be your rank. I'm 25 now and play mostly also with 25 and up and never with 20 and below. Maybe there are level requirements (20?) for the matchmaking groups.
That said, I think the changes were good. I almost never experience shutouts now and a lot of games end close with 5-4 or 5-3.
BlackWaltz
lotta black folks here
Just hit my personal record for exp in a single game. The game went nearly to the end of OT and I got the obsidian belt kill badge, would've been crazy if that was my first win of the day as well.
Get higher
BlackWaltz
lotta black folks here
Update: Confirmed Clan tags are either 40gold or 1500 exp. So basically 1 CTF match.
Needs to be said again