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UFC 193 OT: Ronda Rousey vs Holly Holm / First PPV headlined by 2 womens Title Fights

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Mory Dunz

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Wheres that .gif of the black dude dancing in front of a crying woman? Please post that!

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zewone

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Ok? Ronda got tagged a few times, didn't learn anything from it, and kept running straight at Holm. Watch Holm other fights in the UFC. They stayed out of range from Holm and didn't chase her around the ring. You see the same thing every time with counter strikers.

Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.
 

Rur0ni

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Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.
Fluke? It wasn't one strike or even a series of strikes. It was the whole match.
 

Dr.Acula

Banned
And that makes sense, but still, wouldn't then the right thing to do be give her a concussion test and if she fails, the fighting over? What boxing does is bad, but that doesn't mean we should let people get punched in the head when they're unconscious.

And yes, I know we don't have fool proof concussion tests out there, but if think we know enough about them that we could have three doctors on hand who can rule on whether or not she can get back in the ring.

Ronda was knocked out, she wasn't getting back up. That isn't what boxing does in that case. A knock out means the fight is over.

Also, I appreciate the two of you talking about it rationally and not throwing out insults for whatever reason like 12-year olds like some other posters are doing,

Concussion tests take 1-2 minutes for the fastest. There's just no way to do it. Basically, if someone requires it just call the fight and end it. And like I said, in real-time:

Here is the last 30 seconds including Ronda's horrible missed punch, someone was asking for it:

https://twitter.com/landonterriquez/status/665775647285866496

from the kick to the stoppage is about 2 1/2 seconds. Herb Dean was right on top of it.
 
Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.

Uh, no.

Serra wasn't a striker yet beat a striker.

Holly destroyed a great grappler that has garbage striking.

Not even the same thing.
 

vypek

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Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.

I think people are really just excited and have clouded thoughts of such an upset. Personally I'm happy Ronda lost as it was exciting but I think she has a chance in the future. I don't think that is a fight she would lose 100% of the time. I'm not really of the opinion this was a fluke though. Holm could lose to the next challenger as well. She has talent and potential though.
 

zewone

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Fluke? It wasn't one strike or even a series of strikes. It was the whole match.

So was the Matt Serra victory.

GSP came back from that and dominated more than he ever had prior to then.

A loss like this can be a good reality check. It can be a positive if you make it one, like Georges did.
 
So was the Matt Serra victory.

GSP came back from that and dominated more than he ever had prior to then.

A loss like this can be a good reality check. It can be a positive if you make it one, like Georges did.

This is nothing like the Matt Serra fight. Serra landed a single punch that set everything off. Holly picked Ronda apart in every aspect. Garbage comparison.
 

Turin

Banned
So was the Matt Serra victory.

GSP came back from that and dominated more than he ever had prior to then.

A loss like this can be a good reality check. It can be a positive if you make it one, like Georges did.

Georges was always very well rounded and built off of that after his loss. Rhonda not as much. She can come back but she'll never make up the striking gap.

I'm rooting for Holm though. Great talent there.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
THey are usually rushing to get the fight stopped as quickly as possible. YOu don't have to be precise in that situation.


Also fighters have unpredictable movements when they're woozy or concussed - you fight a couple of rhythms and cadences for a couple of rounds and a fall just kinda gets away from you and you whiff. Staggering is fast because it's evolutionarily successful.
 

beasty

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Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.
Rousey may win the rematch but I wouldnt call what happened tonight a Matt Serra fluke. She got outclassed on the feet.
 
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Your point?

the Serra KO was the definition of a flash/fluke KO. He wasn't dominating GSP for a round and a half before that. He caught GSP with a good punch in a good spot and it all went down hill from there. You might as well bring up Cain/JDS 1. There is no real comparison no matter how badly you want to believe it.
 

MANGOD

Banned
Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.
Im gonna try remember this after the rematch which will end in the same result
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Yeah, it was a stupid gameplan.

But to talk Holm up when she was 2-0 prior to this (one a snoozefest, the other a split decision) is ridiculous to me.

People acting as if Ronda has 0% chance against Holm is crazy. This was a Matt Serra fluke.

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zewone

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Georges was always very well rounded and built off of that after his loss. Rhonda not as much. She can come back but she'll never make up the striking gap.

I'm rooting for Holm though. Great talent there.

I'm not saying GSP and Ronda are the same. GSP is obviously more well rounded.

Up until Ronda became a media darling, everyone knew she was best known for her 1st round armbars.

She bought into her own hype and surrounded herself with yes men.

If she got this dose of reality and realized "Hey, you know what? I'm not very good at boxing. I should stick to what I'm great at."

She could come back and be very dominate with her submissions like she has in the past.

She has obvious holes she needs to close up. She needs a new camp/coach as well.
 
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