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UK Heat Wave

GHG

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Memories of driving an hour and a half in 43 degrees in a car with no aircon. Practically swim out of the car when you finally get home.

Suffering is good for the soul… haha

Had the AC in my car break down a few years ago in August. Really wasn't a fun experience. If anything opening the windows made matters worse.

Don’t forget even U.K. windows are designed to keep the heat in.

Not only that, some people get their houses insulated.
 
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Wildebeest

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Homes being insulated might be
A benefit if the inside temperature dropped overnight at all. Insulation and heat pumps might be a good fit for UK climate but like most engineering solutions that get recommended only the very well off can afford them. Castles in the sky talk.
 

YCoCg

Member
Its utter bullshit. Obviously so if you are old enough to remember the summer of '76, which was 3 straight weeks of hot, dry weather. I believe the hottest summer in 350 years in the UK.
The heatwave of 76 was averaged at 35c a day, we're now in the 40's. The heatwave of 76 doesn't even chart in Britain's Hottest Days anymore, only one period BEFORE 1990 charts in the top 10, the rest have been 1990 or after. It's tedious seeing rose tinted nostalgia wankers keep shouting about 1976 as if that makes them hard as fuck and replying in comments "fookin snowflakes generation, boo whoo tarmac on runways has melted, in 76 we snorted the tarmac and landed the planes on broken glass!", "fookin snowflakes generation, kids don't need to drink water and stay in the shade, in 1976 we ate the sand and stood under magnifying glass!", seriously what's got you guys soo pissed off that you're ANGRY at advice on how to stay cool during a heatwave??? You look like a bunch of knobheads.
 

Vick

Member
It's not Armageddon.... But it is more evidence to add to the pile about the changes to our climate caused by man made activity.

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Homes being insulated might be
A benefit if the inside temperature dropped overnight at all. Insulation and heat pumps might be a good fit for UK climate but like most engineering solutions that get recommended only the very well off can afford them. Castles in the sky talk.
Perhaps passivhaus construction is the way forward, but as you say it all comes back down to bunce. Although you see the odd goverment scheme pop up from time to time to encourage/part-finance induviduals to invest in insulation materials/geothermal heat pumps/stuff, but not sure if any are dingdonging around at the mo tho...
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Heard a statistic that much more people die in the UK from cold homes than from heat related illnesses, 80:1 or something crazy like that.

So warmer winters could mean less overall excess deaths here from tempratures? And could the rapid push towards net zero force up energy prices even further, making it even harder to heat homes and thus increase the amount of deaths from cold weather in Winter?
 

Laptop1991

Member
I think I can quite rightly claim that I do badly in the heat, I used to work down south and moved back up North because the summers where killing me.

I used to hate holidays it was just too hot everywhere else, much rather just go to Scotland.
Couldn't agree more, i'm from the south and the heat is the one thing i don't miss, it's awful, i'd rarther have the snow anytime and freezing temps.
 

GymWolf

Member
This is the waiting line just to get inside:




GL/HF standing there in the scorching heat.
Sorry for the ignorance but how does that impact me arriving from another state?

Maybe i don't fully get what you say, my english is a bit shit wue it comes to technical terms about airports.
 
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You use one of these... is the concept of cold temperatures and cold wooden floors just too much of an alien concept for people near the equator to understand?

Lol, good luck vacuuming all the shit and piss particles from that nice warm carpet around your toilet. It's unhygienic as fuck.

I live in The Netherlands, pretty far from equator but we have this very neat invention called floor heating and tiles. I recommend. Or just wear slippers.

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
The heatwave of 76 was averaged at 35c a day, we're now in the 40's. The heatwave of 76 doesn't even chart in Britain's Hottest Days anymore, only one period BEFORE 1990 charts in the top 10, the rest have been 1990 or after. It's tedious seeing rose tinted nostalgia wankers keep shouting about 1976 as if that makes them hard as fuck and replying in comments "fookin snowflakes generation, boo whoo tarmac on runways has melted, in 76 we snorted the tarmac and landed the planes on broken glass!", "fookin snowflakes generation, kids don't need to drink water and stay in the shade, in 1976 we ate the sand and stood under magnifying glass!", seriously what's got you guys soo pissed off that you're ANGRY at advice on how to stay cool during a heatwave??? You look like a bunch of knobheads.

3 weeks straight at an AVERAGE of 35c a day is a whole other deal to a few a days at a couple of degrees higher!
Especially when we're talking about the 1970's, a time when we didn't have nearly so many technological conveniences as we do today.

I know you're probably just too ignorant to grasp this, but Britain was a different place back then. How many homes/offices do you think had air con and de-humidification back then? Have you considered the thermal output of big-old valve-powered CRT TV's in every home? Do you think there was less poverty and people worked in better conditions? Do you think there was less pollution, less people smoking, do you think the economy and civil infrastructure was in great shape?

You can't just reduce it down to raw meteorological readings, that's just one input into a far bigger and more complex equation.

You can go back further in time, for instance there was a particularly severe heatwave in 1911, a time when government's ability to remediate such conditions were even more limited, but people just got on with it and its a largely forgotten episode.

So excuse me, for seeing this current situation as a crock of shit. And yes, if a few days of extreme heat are too much for you to handle despite all the benefits of 21st century technology, you are a little snowflake and deserve to be roundly laughed at.
 

STARSBarry

Gold Member
Lol, good luck vacuuming all the shit and piss particles from that nice warm carpet around your toilet. It's unhygienic as fuck.

I live in The Netherlands, pretty far from equator but we have this very neat invention called floor heating and tiles. I recommend. Or just wear slippers.

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It's not common to have carpets in bathrooms, that's only found in super old houses, mine is tiled, but I have carpet everywhere else but my kitchen which is wood, it's how I have found it in every house I have lived in, which is around 6. So unless your focusing on some weird ancient trend which is hardly unique to the UK I dunno what your on about, especially since you said you disliked carpets anywhere period before going off on the bathroom post.

But much like aircon guess what the UK also dousent have much of? That's right a type of heating you need to pull your floors up to repair if anything does wrong, funny that.
 
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YCoCg

Member
I know you're probably just too ignorant to grasp this,
OK, here we go with the nostalgia...

How many homes/offices do you think had air con and de-humidification back then?
About the same as it is now, Offices and Gyms, etc may have standard AC but the average home is still built for insulation purposes to trap heat INSIDE and the average citizen owning an actual AC unit in the UK is extremely low.

Have you considered the thermal output of big-old valve-powered CRT TV's in every home?
Instead we have high powered electric ovens, computers that pump out a lot more heat and are now in near enough every home, modern games consoles also pumping out heat, combine that with the average heat output of a 20 inch CRT is roughly the same as a 75 inch LCD, and considering the average TV size is much higher now than it was in the 70's not to mention more houses having multiple TV's compared to just a single TV per house back then.

Do you think there was less poverty and people worked in better conditions?
See above.

Do you think there was less pollution, less people smoking, do you think the economy and civil infrastructure was in great shape?
See above.

You can't just reduce it down to raw meteorological readings, that's just one input into a far bigger and more complex equation.
Yet people constantly bitching about today's "woke snowflakes" and boasting about how great 1976 was do the exact same.

You can go back further in time, for instance there was a particularly severe heatwave in 1911, a time when government's ability to remediate such conditions were even more limited, but people just got on with it and its a largely forgotten episode.
Apart from the people who died in mainly working class conditions, but sure, the middle class and rich "pulled through"

So excuse me, for seeing this current situation as a crock of shit. And yes, if a few days of extreme heat are too much for you to handle despite all the benefits of 21st century technology, you are a little snowflake and deserve to be roundly laughed at.
Go be angry at the "woke mainstream media lying about how to stay cool in a heatwave when in 1976 we snorted mercury and got on with things".
 

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It's not common to have carpets in bathrooms, that's only found in super old houses, mine is tiled, but I have carpet everywhere else but my kitchen which is wood, it's how I have found it in every house I have lived in, which is around 6. So unless your focusing on some weird ancient trend which is hardly unique to the UK I dunno what your on about, especially since you said you disliked carpets anywhere period before going off on the bathroom post.

Carpets are disgusting. Period. And carpets in bathroom / toilets are extremely disgusting. But it's your house so you can do whatever you want. I like my floors steam cleaned and fresh. I recognize not everyone is like me. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I set my AC year round to be 19.5 a 22.5 celcius. The thermostat mandates a 3C range when set to automated ranges.

So in summer when it gets hot it turns on cooling when it exceeds 22.5, and in winter it turns on the heat when it drops below 19.5. Sometimes I change it to 19-22.

I don’t even think of it and my monthly utility bills barely change month to month. The highest coating months will be winter months.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Why does every non-British person find it hard to understand that we, as a nation of rain-dwellers and storm worshippers, are simply not used to this extreme heat? Seriously, we normally thrive on 10-20C. Anything above that is a rarity. Anything above 30C is practically unheard of. You might be used to it in your countries, but guess what? We ain't your countries.
It's not that. We understand you are not used to the heat. What we don't understand is the refusal to get AC because "it's only hot a few days out of the year" or the houses are so old that it's impossible to put AC in them. Where I live it's very hot and humid and rarely gets cold but when it did I ran out and bought a heater instead of complaining about the cold.
 

FUBARx89

Member
It's 36 up where I am (NE) and I'm not finding it bad at all, even as a filthy ginger.

Only bad thing is my car is full leather seats and a metal gear stick. Was pretty vile getting in it earlier on.
 
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Artoris

Gold Member
Are you actually trying to compare the climate 50M years ago to today? Because that's a real strawman argument right there.
It depends on what you are arguing about: you are pointing out as it sounds ridicules it must be impossible, but they were saying climate change is more a force of nature rather than man made
 

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Go be angry at the "woke mainstream media lying about how to stay cool in a heatwave when in 1976 we snorted mercury and got on with things".

So you're point is.... ? That we need the mainstream media to catastrophize and the government to issue ludicrous "red alerts" in order for us to survive a few extra-hot days this summer?

Are you an infant?

Seriously? How pathetic is that.
 

YCoCg

Member
So you're point is.... ? That we need the mainstream media to catastrophize and the government to issue ludicrous "red alerts" in order for us to survive a few extra-hot days this summer?
It's the first time in recent recorded history that Britain has surpassed 40c in a lot of locations, sure you can claim it's "just a few extra degrees" but it kinda starts making a bigger impact once you go OVER the human body temperature, it's weird that you 1976 fetish people don't seem to grasp that, a month of 32-35c is still under 37c, a few days of 40c+ and you're OVER the human body temperature. It causes a bigger impact.

Are you an infant?

Seriously? How pathetic is that.
"Stupid woke snowflake society of today, in 1976 we left our dogs locked in the cars and if they died then that just proved they weren't worthy of being in the family"
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
40c in Cambridge and been in and car and shopping outside. It's hot but still not the levels of suffering you get in Asia with the added humidity which makes it feel like a hell swamp.
 
"Stupid woke snowflake society of today, in 1976 we left our dogs locked in the cars and if they died then that just proved they weren't worthy of being in the family"
Dogs were too busy shitting all over the pavements in the 70s to get locked in anywhere. You younglings dunno what you missed out on. Having to watch every damn step and still managing to tread in some almost every time you left the house was a great laugh.

Anyway, in other news, 42 in my back garden ATM. Feels insanely hot out there.
 

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
It's the first time in recent recorded history that Britain has surpassed 40c in a lot of locations, sure you can claim it's "just a few extra degrees" but it kinda starts making a bigger impact once you go OVER the human body temperature, it's weird that you 1976 fetish people don't seem to grasp that, a month of 32-35c is still under 37c, a few days of 40c+ and you're OVER the human body temperature. It causes a bigger impact.


"Stupid woke snowflake society of today, in 1976 we left our dogs locked in the cars and if they died then that just proved they weren't worthy of being in the family"

Would you like some survival tips? :D

Open window, use a fan, wear light clothing, keep hydrated... Find a cool spot?

Radical right-wing lunacy obviously, but why do we need the media and government to tell us how to deal with the simple and obvious?
Why the endless doom-mongering? Especially when it should be plainly obvious that as individual citizens we have as much control over anthropogenic global warming as we do the fucking weather!
 

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CliffyB's Cock Holster
They're not telling, they're advising, and you've seen Britain over the years, people need all the help they can get.

The best advice you can give to a LOT of people is tell them to start thinking for themselves and stop being pussies!
 
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Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
It's 36 up where I am (NE) and I'm not finding it bad at all, even as a filthy ginger.

Only bad thing is my car is full leather seats and a metal gear stick. Was pretty vile getting in it earlier on.
Protip: From someone who lives where 40°c and humid is common. Open your car turn it on along with the AC roll down the windows and wait a minute or 2 before attempting to get in a d drive away
 

haxan7

Banned
You guys seriously don't have any A/C? Not even the window units?

Is it because it was always cold there, or other reasons?
 

Kraz

Banned
Haven't seen a newly carpeted bathroom since the 80s. Standard luxury is heated floors for decades.


The first of four days wasn't so bad when the heat dome hit here. The first night was a little rough since it only dropped briefly below the 20s before dawn.
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It was the fourth night that killed my neighbour. It didn't cool down like normal at all. 31 at midnight to almost 2 in the morning. He had no AC and counted on the environment to cool and "I'm tough" was the gist of the response those that checked on him before got.

Good news that the heat wave in western Europe is moving on. Don't underestimate the danger you're in.
 
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