Undertale is [has won] the GameFAQs Best. Game. Ever. poll

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Arcia said:
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Do your JOB, Allen.
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IN THIS WORLD IT'S LOVE OR BE LOVED

No way most of these posts aren't just /v/ purposely fucking with people. No fucking way a post that ends with "not changing this signature until i have sex with a real human bean (currently 20yo virgin) TRUMP 2016" isn't done entirely tongue-in-cheek.

This isn't really as funny as the Launchpad McQuack 'Best Sidekick' poll fuckery was though. I liked Undertale quite a bit, but it's not better than most of the games it's beating here.

Acquiescence said:
Here's the thing, if you look at the previous results leading up to this final battle, it's clear that a sizeable faction of Nintendo fans were voting en masse for anything remotely affiliated with the company. No kidding, I'm looking at the results now and the whole thing has been heavily skewed toward Nintendo games. Resident Evil 4 lost to Super Mario RPG for crying out loud! I'm not even a Resi4 uber-fan or anything, but that's one of the most revered games of all time, and it got outvoted by a game I don't think I've ever seen feature in a 'Top 100 Video Games' list or whatever. It's bizarre.

So it's not like people begrudging Undertale for winning the final have any right to complain.
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Yeah okay never mind, Undertale can win this thing a million times over if SMRPG of all things can beat Resident Evil 4 via company fanboyism. Tons of fond childhood memories of the former, but it's aged pretty badly.
Paper Mario 2's better in every conceivable way anyhow.
 
dickroach said:
like what? other than
Flowey crashing your game or whatever
I can't think of anything. and even that could still work. I played the game with a joypad mapper/ PS3 controller on my TV and it was all fine
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It manipulate files in a way that you need to look beyond its root directory. Doubt any console would allow that.
 
Here's the thing, if you look at the previous results leading up to this final battle, it's clear that a sizeable faction of Nintendo fans were voting en masse for anything remotely affiliated with the company. No kidding, I'm looking at the results now and the whole thing has been heavily skewed toward Nintendo games. Resident Evil 4 lost to Super Mario RPG for crying out loud! I'm not even a Resi4 uber-fan or anything, but that's one of the most revered games of all time, and it got outvoted by a game I don't think I've ever seen feature in a 'Top 100 Video Games' list or whatever. It's bizarre.

So it's not like people begrudging Undertale for winning the final have any right to complain.
 
Acquiescence said:
Here's the thing, if you look at the previous results leading up to this final battle, it's clear that a sizeable faction of Nintendo fans were voting en masse for anything remotely affiliated with the company. No kidding, I'm looking at the results now and the whole thing has been heavily skewed toward Nintendo games. Resident Evil 4 lost to Super Mario RPG for crying out loud! I'm not even a Resi4 uber-fan or anything, but that's one of the most revered games of all time, and it got outvoted by a game I don't think I've ever seen feature in a 'Top 100 Video Games' list or whatever. It's bizarre.

So it's not like people begrudging Undertale for winning the final have any right to complain.
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SMRPG is pretty good, though. I'd vote for it over RE4.
 
Seriously though, what's wrong with the fanbase rallying. It's a Goddamn popularity contest, not a scientific study.
 
I voted for Undertale. It genuinely became one of my favorite games of all time by the time I finished it a few times. The salt on that board is a bonus. Who the hell gives a shit about a gamefaq poll?

And saying nobody will remember this game in a year is silly. Undertale was the only game I could think about a few weeks after I beat it. The characters, story, and music all make it VERY memorable.

Giever said:
I just hope all of this Undertale love will cause more people to give EarthBound a chance.
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I'm a lot more interested in checking that out now. I've heard about it for years, but if it shares a lot in common with Undertale then I'm definitely gonna find a way to play it.
 
Acquiescence said:
Here's the thing, if you look at the previous results leading up to this final battle, it's clear that a sizeable faction of Nintendo fans were voting en masse for anything remotely affiliated with the company. No kidding, I'm looking at the results now and the whole thing has been heavily skewed toward Nintendo games. Resident Evil 4 lost to Super Mario RPG for crying out loud! I'm not even a Resi4 uber-fan or anything, but that's one of the most revered games of all time, and it got outvoted by a game I don't think I've ever seen feature in a 'Top 100 Video Games' list or whatever. It's bizarre.

So it's not like people begrudging Undertale for winning the final have any right to complain.
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It's weird how it's turned out like "Nintendo fanbase vs. Undertale fanbase" and yet EarthBound and MOTHER 3 both lost early on in the polls.

Like, come on guys! Both sides should at least appreciate that series. =(
 
NewGame said:
I'm glad that it isn't just OoT winning everything as per usual- but come on, Undertale is a lame game. It's the corridor shooters of RPG- it is not Earthbound- it's barely anything, you just walk around a memeverse and make gaemr 'jokes' about how rpgs function but there's nothing mechanically to explore the idea aside from a tiny novel non-violent method of winning encounters that already has a 'flee' option that works most of the time anyway.
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How much of the game have you played, just out of interest? I only ask because the back half of the game does some very interesting things with its narrative and gameplay conceits which perhaps wouldn't be apparent earlier on.

I disagree about the injokes, too- most of the game's humour comes from character, not memes.
dock said:
It's okay for some versions of a game not to contain every aspect from the original.
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Thematically, the game would be a lot weaker without those aspects. A console port isn't impossible, but I really don't see Toby Fox going for it.
 
dock said:
It's okay for some versions of a game not to contain every aspect from the original.
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I dunno though, the extent and the commitment of its theme represented through the way its file directory is structured is kind of why it was so great.
 
Didn't OoT 'win' a bunch of times already?

Even if you take internet polls too seriously, is it that bad that classic games loses to an indie hit of the year? Stuff like this stops results from getting stale.
 
NewGame said:
I remember the meltdown when Tails didn't win 'best sidekick' character and instead the other duck from Ducktales won. It was amazing salt.

I'm glad that it isn't just OoT winning everything as per usual- but come on, Undertale is a lame game. It's the corridor shooters of RPG- it is not Earthbound- it's barely anything, you just walk around a memeverse and make gaemr 'jokes' about how rpgs function but there's nothing mechanically to explore the idea aside from a tiny novel non-violent method of winning encounters that already has a 'flee' option that works most of the time anyway.

Oh well, at least it wasn't some microtransaction f2p mobile game.
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Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Kangi said:
I wonder what makes people think Undertale's just going to disappear. That's not how it works.

It's gotten more popular month after month. I've been seeing graffiti of this game. I wouldn't be able to escape this game if I tried. You won't, either, no matter how much you tell yourself everyone's just going to stop liking it.

So why don't you just... give in?
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I've genuinely only ever seen it mentioned on NeoGAF and occasionally on Twitter. I didn't know about this game until GAF. I've seen one run-through on my YouTube subscription list and that's it. I'm aware it's very popular on Tumblr, but claiming it's some gaming behemoth akin to other Indie success stories is a joke, for now.

I understand that it's a good game, but c'mon.
 
Antiwhippy said:
It manipulate files in a way that you need to look beyond its root directory. Doubt any console would allow that.
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No, it does not. All the Genocide ending does is create a file called "system_information_963" in the same folder as the save file, and it can be deleted just like any other save file and it'll be like Genocide never happened. (Though I've heard that Steam Cloud backs it up? Don't know if that's true, and not that it matters if you're playing DRM-Free.)

People really overstate the issues with the save file on console, I really don't see being able to delete it as a big deal. The game "crashes" seem like far more of an issue.
 
Übermatik;189297560 said:
I've genuinely only ever seen it mentioned on NeoGAF and occasionally on Twitter. I didn't know about this game until GAF. I've seen one run-through on my YouTube subscription list and that's it. I'm aware it's very popular on Tumblr, but claiming it's some gaming behemoth akin to other Indie success stories is a joke, for now.

I understand that it's a good game, but c'mon.
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How many sales would you say is needed for the game being a success story to not be a joke?
 
Oh for fucks sake. It's a cute little game. What the holy hell does it have to do with "SJW" or GamerGaters? WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE A THING WITH THESE FUCKS.

Übermatik;189297560 said:
I've genuinely only ever seen it mentioned on NeoGAF and occasionally on Twitter. I didn't know about this game until GAF. I've seen one run-through on my YouTube subscription list and that's it. I'm aware it's very popular on Tumblr, but claiming it's some gaming behemoth akin to other Indie success stories is a joke, for now.

I understand that it's a good game, but c'mon.
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Half a million sales is pretty large on the indie scene. That's not even mentioning the love its getting from people are opposite as Tumblr, TotalBiscuit and Jim Sterling. I can't think of a metric to use in which the game ends up not deserving to be in that conversational wheelhouse.
 
woopWOOP said:
Didn't OoT 'win' a bunch of times already?
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ummmmm what part of BEST. GAME. EVER. don't you understand?

nah, but I remembering giving so much of a shit (way too much) when the first couple of GameFAQs character battles happened way back when, getting furious and not being able to understand why Mario wasn't winning.
it takes a bit to sink it that it's just a dumb internet poll.
 
MilesSMB said:
No, it does not. All the Genocide ending does is create a file called "system_information_963" in the same folder as the save file, and it can be deleted just like any other save file and it'll be like Genocide never happened. (Though I've heard that Steam Cloud backs it up? Don't know if that's true, and not that it matters if you're playing DRM-Free.)

People really overstate the issues with the save file on console, I really don't see being able to delete it as a big deal. The game "crashes" seem like far more of an issue.
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Huh, guess I had some misconceptions of how the file stuff works. Thanks for clearing it up.

Übermatik;189297560 said:
I've genuinely only ever seen it mentioned on NeoGAF and occasionally on Twitter. I didn't know about this game until GAF. I've seen one run-through on my YouTube subscription list and that's it. I'm aware it's very popular on Tumblr, but claiming it's some gaming behemoth akin to other Indie success stories is a joke, for now.

I understand that it's a good game, but c'mon.
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It sold close to half a million with nothing but word of mouth.
 
The popularity contest is always a competition between the Final Fantasy and Zelda fanbase every year, it's why people joke voted for Missingno, LoL characters and the Tetris block in previous character contests. Difference being this time is Undertale has a lot of attention on it already so it has people who legitimately love it along with those who just want to see a winner that isn't Nintendo related.

Personally I just voted for whichever game out of the two that I think is better, and unfortunately for OoT I don't much care for it so I went with Undertale. Had Majora's Mask or Link's Awakening made the final I'd have voted otherwise.
 
FluxWaveZ said:
How many sales would you say is needed for the game being a success story to not be a joke?
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It's not really about sales, is it? Game culture impact is more important. Right now it has a great following, and I respect that. If you want to draw parallels, I would compare the game in a way to Super Meat Boy, which sits at just over a million? I think? If (when?) Undertale hits that mark it'll be a stronger contender. But even then, in view of this topic, greatest game of all time? No.
 
Übermatik;189297929 said:
It's not really about sales, is it? Game culture impact is more important. Right now it has a great following, and I respect that. If you want to draw parallels, I would compare the game in a way to Super Meat Boy, which sits at just over a million? I think? If (when?) Undertale hits that mark it'll be a stronger contender. But even then, in view of this topic, greatest game of all time? No.
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It's a gamefaqs poll. Like, of course this poll isn't going to decide if it's the greatest game of all time.
 
Übermatik;189297929 said:
It's not really about sales, is it? Game culture impact is more important. Right now it has a great following, and I respect that. If you want to draw parallels, I would compare the game in a way to Super Meat Boy, which sits at just over a million? I think? If (when?) Undertale hits that mark it'll be a stronger contender. But even then, in view of this topic, greatest game of all time? No.
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Two different things. Of course it's not the greatest game of all time. People quoting you are responding to this; "some gaming behemoth akin to other Indie success stories is a joke."
 
Giever said:
I just hope all of this Undertale love will cause more people to give EarthBound a chance.
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I started playing Undertale after my first playthrough of Earthbound.

Earthbound became one of my favorite games and Undertale is my game of the year. Well, I guess that last part is obvious if you look at my avatar hehe.
 
Übermatik;189297929 said:
It's not really about sales, is it? Game culture impact is more important. Right now it has a great following, and I respect that. If you want to draw parallels, I would compare the game in a way to Super Meat Boy, which sits at just over a million? I think? If (when?) Undertale hits that mark it'll be a stronger contender. But even then, in view of this topic, greatest game of all time? No.
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Impact is 100% irrelevant to me if I am asked the question "What is the best game ever?" The question is entirely subjective, and whatever game resonated the most with me, whatever game was the most memorable for me, whatever game I had the best time with... THAT's what I will respond with. I couldn't give a shit what anyone else thought of my favorite regarding that, and the same is for the majority of those who voted in this poll.

But that's beside the point of claiming that Undertale somehow doesn't befit the description of a success story, which is in itself ridiculous.
 
As long as OoT doesn't win I'm okay with the results. I would assume next year Undertale won't be winning though since it won't have the same hype that it has now.
 
Not too fussed if people who never played undertale are flooding gfaqs in support of it, I think OOT has won gfaqs best game ever like 1000000 times, people know it's a good game by now lol

it's not even in my top 5 zelda games
 
I have no beef with Undertale one waybor the other but the reaction to this game is just insanity. First last week it comes out that jilted Undertale fans toom to steam to downvote Rocket League because it beat undertale for best indie game at the game awards.

Now this whole GameFaqs thing. People be crazy.
 
Demoskinos said:
I have no beef with Undertale one waybor the other but the reaction to this game is just insanity. First last week it comes out that jilted Undertale fans toom to steam to downvote Rocket League because it beat undertale for best indie game at the game awards.

Now this whole GameFaqs thing. People be crazy.
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There's no denying that some parts of the fandom is super dumb.

Then again, every fandom contains those people.
 
Antiwhippy said:
It's a gamefaqs poll. Like, of course this poll isn't going to decide if it's the greatest game of all time.
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Well it depends weather we're talking GGOAT objectively or not. If this is more a poll for 'people's favourite game' then sure. I don't really mind about the poll itself, more about Undertale and how it compares to other games.

FluxWaveZ said:
Impact is 100% irrelevant to me if I am asked the question "What is the best game ever?" The question is entirely subjective, and whatever game resonated the most with me, whatever game was the most memorable for me, whatever game I had the best time with... THAT's what I will respond with. I couldn't give a shit what anyone else thought of my favorite regarding that, and the same is for the majority of those who voted in this poll.

But that's beside the point of claiming that Undertale somehow doesn't befit the description of a success story, which is in itself ridiculous.
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Alright, I think you've misunderstood me now... which might be my fault, in part. If you don't regard impact as indicative of a 'great game', why did you mention sales? That's the question you asked and the one I answered. You've now mentioned that you'd judge a game on it's value by your own subjective tastes. That's fine. That's what everyone does.

Also I didn't say it wasn't a success story? I just said it doesn't measure up to some of the bigger indie games, which if you wanted to, could include Minecraft and Gmod.
 
Übermatik;189298445 said:
Well it depends weather we're talking GGOAT objectively or not. If this is more a poll for 'people's favourite game' then sure. I don't really mind about the poll itself, more about Undertale and how it compares to other games.
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What on earth else could this be? It's a poll of people, not an objective ranking.
 
Antiwhippy said:
Yeah you have no idea what you're talking about.
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He's not wrong, really. The game
remembering previous playthroughs
is the most interesting part. The genocide/pacifism thing is novel... except you're missing 90% of the game if you go genocide. The genocide route is more of an easter egg treat for people who've played the game "correctly." Which makes the decision and concept pointless.

The gameplay is ho-hum, and the humor very rarely hit with me. The underlying themes are fine, but the day-to-day with the characters is written like garbage. Entire characters are ruined because "lol the internet hates comic sans and papyrus get it." The game actively ruins every character but Flowey, Toriel and Sans because they're just regurgitating 4chan humor constantly. The concepts aren't strong enough to justify the cringe dialogue and mediocre gameplay.

It's not a terrible game, it's very interesting. The best game ever, though? Give me a fucking break.

OoT isn't that great either, though.
 
Übermatik;189298445 said:
Alright, I think you've misunderstood me now... which might be my fault, in part. If you don't regard impact as indicative of a 'great game', why did you mention sales? That's the question you asked and the one I answered. You've now mentioned that you'd judge a game on it's value by your own subjective tastes. That's fine. That's what everyone does.

Also I didn't say it wasn't a success story? I just said it doesn't measure up to some of the bigger indie games, which if you wanted to, could include Minecraft and Gmod.
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Looking back, we've definitely misunderstood each other. All I was talking about was its states as a "success story," but I think you were specifically talking about it being a "gaming behemoth."

In that case, of course: Undertale is not on the same level as the most successful indie games.
 
NewGame said:
I'm glad that it isn't just OoT winning everything as per usual- but come on, Undertale is a lame game. It's the corridor shooters of RPG- it is not Earthbound- it's barely anything, you just walk around a memeverse and make gaemr 'jokes' about how rpgs function but there's nothing mechanically to explore the idea aside from a tiny novel non-violent method of winning encounters that already has a 'flee' option that works most of the time anyway.

Oh well, at least it wasn't some microtransaction f2p mobile game.
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I'd be interested in hearing some clarifications about some of these statements. I don't quite understand the comparison to corridor shooters, and I'd love to hear some examples of the many memes it uses that turned it into the memeverse.

dickroach said:
like what? other than
Flowey crashing your game or whatever
I can't think of anything. and even that could still work. I played the game with a joypad mapper/ PS3 controller on my TV and it was all fine
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If you play with a controller, you miss out on a tiny mechanic during a boss fight, which asks you to write a short essay. There's a bunch of gags in there that can affect your rating.

The "crashing" your game and booting you out to the dashboard would be a big one like you say, but the way it handles saves may be an issue too. While people have found where it saves on PC, you're not really supposed to have access to them. One character in the game taunts that it has control over your save files, and attempts to lock you in a loop. On console saves are placed in their usual spots and you can delete them freely, which would hinder that illusion. There's also supposed to be permanence to getting the naughty ending, which is also easily undone by having standardised saves whose management is explained in the console's manual. Then finally the game has a bunch of sneaky stuff hidden inside of it if you edit the values of your saves, which is of course also a no-go on consoles..

I'm also not sure if its method of saving would also be permitted to begin with. It saves all the time in secret, in spite of making the player do manual saves at dedicated save points. I can't think of a console game that autosaves without giving you a clear indicator that it is doing so, so I'm wondering if that is mandated by certification. Speculation on my part though.
 
^re:that. forgot about the one part where you gotta type, but that seems pretty negligible. same with the save stuff. I guess there would have to be a "console version," yeah, but it's definitely doable. I'd be surprised if this game wasn't on all consoles+mobile by the end of 2016

Nose Master said:
they're just regurgitating 4chan humor constantly.
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like what? I'm wholly unaware of 4chan humor / meme culture
 
Nose Master said:
He's not wrong, really. The game
remembering previous playthroughs
is the most interesting part. The genocide/pacifism thing is novel... except you're missing 90% of the game if you go genocide. The genocide route is more of an easter egg treat for people who've played the game "correctly." Which makes the decision and concept pointless.

The gameplay is ho-hum, and the humor very rarely hit with me. The underlying themes are fine, but the day-to-day with the characters is written like garbage. Entire characters are ruined because "lol the internet hates comic sans and papyrus get it." The game actively ruins every character but Flowey, Toriel and Sans because they're just regurgitating 4chan humor constantly. The concepts aren't strong enough to justify the cringe dialogue and mediocre gameplay.

It's not a terrible game, it's very interesting. The best game ever, though? Give me a fucking break.

OoT isn't that great either, though.
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Hey, there's a pretty important character that you didn't mention in your post. That character makes this game earn a spot in my top 5 games of all time. Without even including the rest of the game.
 
As someone who actually frequents GameFAQs, all of the screencapped posts floating around are just joke accounts. Any site that doesn't have an account creation process as strict as GAF's is going to have those (and even here I'm pretty sure I've seen joke accounts, but they're much less common). GameFAQs is still a terrible site and those posters are pretty awful "trolls," but they're not really representative of what the entire site is like (which, again, is bad, but for entirely different reasons....well, actually, I guess the joke accounts are related to why the site is bad because there being so many of them is one of the things that brings down its overall quality). And voting for Undertale just to "spite," them isn't a good idea, because it just encourages more of their shitposting.
 
Nose Master said:
He's not wrong, really. The game
remembering previous playthroughs
is the most interesting part. The genocide/pacifism thing is novel... except you're missing 90% of the game if you go genocide. The genocide route is more of an easter egg treat for people who've played the game "correctly." Which makes the decision and concept pointless.

The gameplay is ho-hum, and the humor very rarely hit with me. The underlying themes are fine, but the day-to-day with the characters is written like garbage. Entire characters are ruined because "lol the internet hates comic sans and papyrus get it." The game actively ruins every character but Flowey, Toriel and Sans because they're just regurgitating 4chan humor constantly. The concepts aren't strong enough to justify the cringe dialogue and mediocre gameplay.

It's not a terrible game, it's very interesting. The best game ever, though? Give me a fucking break.

OoT isn't that great either, though.
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I like to think that I know most of the internet's dumb stuff and nothing in this game struck me as "4chan" humour other than temmie.

If anything a lot of it reminds me of British surrealist humour and slapstick which is something I love.
 
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