Heh.... I like the ending.
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Undertale |OT| Indie RPG with determination and spider bake sales
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Heh.... I like the ending.
I like it.
TheSlySoul
Member
Just uploaded Pacifist on Youtube. Not going to enjoy Genocide...
Doctor Rover
Member
Secret character spoilers kinda.
Pretty cool gaster concept:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1KyeJYn7h0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1KyeJYn7h0
The Shadow Knight
Member
Now here's another neat Megalovania remix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WlFqXF9nE
This guy works wonders with the Mega Man X soundfont.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WlFqXF9nE
This guy works wonders with the Mega Man X soundfont.
Cramoss
Member
I'd say pacifist.
Pacifist
Hm, yeah.
I actually was about to throw the fight when suddenly her attacks didn't aim for me anymore. From that moment on it was pretty clear how to continue 
T
thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I was confused too, but the dialog afterwords sounded very much like you've made a choice, so I was able to redo it without fighting.
The flower remembered though, still making me feel guilty about my original mistake.
It kind of plays out the same as in the Normal route, with the obvious dialogue changes depending on who you spared this time (though, depending on how many people you killed the first time, you might see several things differently).
What changes dramatically is the ending. I'd highly recommend doing a Genocide route after Pacifist, because that's when pretty much the whole game changes.
Definitely the worst part about it, though I understand the reason behind making it such a pain to get. It would have been good if, when you get locked into it, the player received some item that could ramp up the encounter rate. Still worth going through, in my opinion, and it does really give the feeling that you're explicitly going out of your way to kill things... which is important for that route.
Seth Balmore
Member
Did you complete it? I also started one today after having done Neutral and Pacifist.
Undyne the Undying kicked my ass. First death in my run so far. She ain't messing around.
The game is very good at making you feel like the scum of the earth, btw.
Lol, this Undertale mashup has cheezy gudda works so good somehow.
https://soundcloud.com/wendyfag/through-the-core-and-ruins
https://soundcloud.com/wendyfag/through-the-core-and-ruins
Genocide is definitely more of an experience than a well thought out game. The fact that only
Undyne and Sans
M0nochromatic
Member
The-Regressor has been making old PS1/N64 models and textures and recreating all of the scenes from the game. It's really amazing stuff.
OniBarubary
Banned
Genocide Run Ponderings
So as you go through a lot of monsters start realizing what you are and what's going on. And they want to stop you because not only are you a threat to monsters but to humanity as well. But my question is...how?
Like, the explanation behind how a little kid could kill monsters like Undyne and Sans makes sense in the context of the world. But Chara is still just a little kid, or in Frisk's little kid body. Gaining LV and EXP isn't really going to affect them fighting humans. Obviously a psychotic little kid can make creative means to kill adults but at the end of the day it's not like Chara could genocide the planet. Frisk is human after all, and the only monster soul they can absorb is Asgore's to leave the barrier before it expires. It just doesn't seem like Chara is that big a threat to humans.
Like, the explanation behind how a little kid could kill monsters like Undyne and Sans makes sense in the context of the world. But Chara is still just a little kid, or in Frisk's little kid body. Gaining LV and EXP isn't really going to affect them fighting humans. Obviously a psychotic little kid can make creative means to kill adults but at the end of the day it's not like Chara could genocide the planet. Frisk is human after all, and the only monster soul they can absorb is Asgore's to leave the barrier before it expires. It just doesn't seem like Chara is that big a threat to humans.
I don't know if that was meant to be looked into too deeply, but I guess a few possibilities:
1. It has to do with the nature of Chara's soul within Frisk's body. Asriel absorbed Chara's soul upon his death to pass the barrier, giving him the power to kill everyone who attacked him if he wanted. Upon Asriel's death, I guess it could be seen that part of that power still remained with Chara, as well as with Flowey (i.e. Asriel).
2. In a universe where wizards exist in the human world, I'm sure there's something Chara + Frisk could find out to gain the power to destroy everything.
3. I guess if I want to really invent something related to the game's themes, the power of "Determination" in the world gives one the inner power to attain one's goals, and has magical properties for humans as well as with monsters. This is why Undyne is the one who becomes Undyne the Undying. It's why Frisk is the only one to survive among the 7 humans who fell. The "Determination" to annihilate Chara + Frisk have in the Genocide Route could transfer over to power, just like it did for Undyne (and who they managed to defeat).
2. In a universe where wizards exist in the human world, I'm sure there's something Chara + Frisk could find out to gain the power to destroy everything.
3. I guess if I want to really invent something related to the game's themes, the power of "Determination" in the world gives one the inner power to attain one's goals, and has magical properties for humans as well as with monsters. This is why Undyne is the one who becomes Undyne the Undying. It's why Frisk is the only one to survive among the 7 humans who fell. The "Determination" to annihilate Chara + Frisk have in the Genocide Route could transfer over to power, just like it did for Undyne (and who they managed to defeat).
While there is some stuff up for debate,
I always assumed that Chara's goal (and the reason he bothered to come into the barrier) was to become that monster/human soul fusion, and thus would have enough power to kill anything he (they?) wanted.
It seems that Asriel Dremurr in his true form had the potential to destroy the entire world, which would have meant destroying the human world and thus fulfilling Chara's objective. If Asriel hadn't originally overpowered Chara's will and returned after they fused, he might have very well started killing right then and there.
it was also my assumption that Chara may have originally dragged his own body out there to provoke Asriel into counterattacking, and the subsequent killing and exp gain would have then made it easier for Chara to overpower Asriel and then simply kill everyone he wished (similar to how if you try to resist him on a Genocide run as Frisk).Let's also not forget the many human souls he would have also been able to absorb from doing this, making him more powerful all the while as he continued.
That all of course begs the question of WHY CHARA WHY YOU WEIRDO and Flowey/Asriel is the only witness to all of this so there's likely more we don't understand, but the pieces seem to fit, yea?
It seems that Asriel Dremurr in his true form had the potential to destroy the entire world, which would have meant destroying the human world and thus fulfilling Chara's objective. If Asriel hadn't originally overpowered Chara's will and returned after they fused, he might have very well started killing right then and there.
it was also my assumption that Chara may have originally dragged his own body out there to provoke Asriel into counterattacking, and the subsequent killing and exp gain would have then made it easier for Chara to overpower Asriel and then simply kill everyone he wished (similar to how if you try to resist him on a Genocide run as Frisk).Let's also not forget the many human souls he would have also been able to absorb from doing this, making him more powerful all the while as he continued.
That all of course begs the question of WHY CHARA WHY YOU WEIRDO and Flowey/Asriel is the only witness to all of this so there's likely more we don't understand, but the pieces seem to fit, yea?
Yeah, it's all been pretty neat! They've done Napstablook and the original Mettaton since then, too!
I know it's something small to look forward to, but they're doing Mettaton EX on the 27th; I can't wait to see him in all of his polygonal glory!
EDIT: Oh yeah. They also accidentally made
Asriel, somewhat. The Regressor put Toriel's head on Frisk's body as a joke back when they only 20 minutes into the game, told a friend, and the friend told them that they essentially accidentally made a pre-existing character... so they uploaded it alongside the first two.
Oh i'm sure he/she could manage. With the level of DETERMINATION they displayed during the route, it wouldn't be a stretch at all to imagine the amount of havoc they could wreak on the human world.
LUFTRAUSER
Banned
I accidentally
but luckily by going into my computers filesystem and deleting all the files manually I was able to make it like new again.
killed goatmom Toriel on my first playthorugh
Wow that was really great
but I wasn't expecting that ending wow ;(
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
You could have just reset from the main menu.
M0nochromatic
Member
That's pretty hilarious, and it's certainly a cool thing to look forward to!
OH YES
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Need some concrete confirmations on Genocide before I continue, I understand it's easy to mess up.
I'm in the ruins right now. As far as I understand I have to get random battles and kill them until a "But no one came" message appears. Is this message for the area (ruins, snowdin etc) or just the room? And I can't fight bosses without the message triggering, correct?
Everything you said is correct. The message applies for the whole area. After the ruins, save points will tell you how many enemies you have left to kill
M0nochromatic
Member
"But no one came" is for the area; Ruins, Snowden, etc. And yes, if you fight the area boss before getting the "But no one came" message, it switches to Neutral.
The safest thing to do is finish off the random encounters in the room right next to the save point or the save point room itself before progressing too far in.
The safest thing to do is finish off the random encounters in the room right next to the save point or the save point room itself before progressing too far in.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Ok, one last question -
What about NPCs that you don't fight like that rock in the ruins that moves off the switch or vendors? Do anything with them?
You must also kill Napstablook and the Vegetoid below the cracked floor and stuff like that right?
You must also kill Napstablook and the Vegetoid below the cracked floor and stuff like that right?
Sick remix.
petethepanda
Member
Another friend starting to play. Following the reactions of a new player is just the frigging best.
M0nochromatic
Member
It varies. On my first run I killed Napstablook, but on my second run, since I killed everything in the first room before reaching him, he simply ran away because I had engaged the Genocide path. Beyond that unique instance, I don't know anything else.
So thats why Undyne acts so hot blooded lol. Also the
is way more creepy than it should be. Especially the enemy encounters...
I just wish more western developers would realize this (indie and otherwise), instead of just having generic epic music / background/atmospheric music the majority of the time.
true lab
I just wish more western developers would realize this (indie and otherwise), instead of just having generic epic music / background/atmospheric music the majority of the time.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Thinking about doing some more fanart but more complete. Thinking of working on Undyne and Muffet pieces since I got ideas for them. (Muffet one has been in my head for a while.)
ColossalLazy
Member
Finished the True Pacifist route some days ago. 10/10 game and amazing soundtrack. Many great moments.
Genocide route final boss is too tough. I dont have enough determination to go through it.
Genocide route final boss is too tough. I dont have enough determination to go through it.
You have too much love and not enough LOVE.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah that took me about three days to do. It's a tough one!