AdawgDaFAB
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Warriors Orochi 3 |OT| The second-worst game featuring Ryu Hayabusa out this week
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Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Four more characters S-Ranked (Zhuge Liang, Sakon Shima, Kenshin Uesugi, Keiji Maeda). Making good progress. Platinum's starting to look a bit more do-able. 
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Four more characters S-Ranked (Zhuge Liang, Sakon Shima, Kenshin Uesugi, Keiji Maeda). Making good progress. Platinum's starting to look a bit more do-able.
I'm still working on unlocking the stages. takes so long >.<
Ben Morales
Member
Yeah, tell me about it. I'm so glad I'm done with that step. Have you gotten the last option in the dinner party yet? Speeds things up immensely.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Dont you need every one that it requires to be on par with each other in terms of bonds? You would need a ton of gems right?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
The last option only costs 3000 gems.
Baloonatic
Member
Started playing this the other day and I'm really impressed so far. This is my first of these games since DW1 so the amount of improvements is obviously huge to me.
One of the biggest surprises was finding out all the moves the characters get. The first time I leveled a character enough to unlock some more moves I was really surprised. Way more to this game than I originally realised
I'm guessing there will be a lot of repeat movesets/animations with so many characters to choose from but I think that's fair enough. I have no idea how I'm going to pick a top 3 though.
Anyway, I'm wondering if I should pick up the previous Orochi games once I've finished this one. Is it worth it to play through the story modes?
Edit: Also, how the hell do you people remember all the character names?
One of the biggest surprises was finding out all the moves the characters get. The first time I leveled a character enough to unlock some more moves I was really surprised. Way more to this game than I originally realised
I'm guessing there will be a lot of repeat movesets/animations with so many characters to choose from but I think that's fair enough. I have no idea how I'm going to pick a top 3 though.
Anyway, I'm wondering if I should pick up the previous Orochi games once I've finished this one. Is it worth it to play through the story modes?
Edit: Also, how the hell do you people remember all the character names?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Oh damn wtf ok I'll just wait til I can get that then
once you play all the games so god damn much they just get burned into your head over time
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Just lots and lots of playing. :lol Some of us have put hundreds upon hundreds of hours into these characters over the course of several games.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Is there a list anywhere of who's 4 stars are better than their big star?
I'd like to know this as well. Mostly for the female characters though.
Anyways, just finished Wei and all Samurai characters proficiency. On to Shu and the Other categories.
By all accounts even when 4-star weapons are better it's only by a few points which is completely and utterly inconsequential, especially since even big star weapons that are a few points weaker usually have good and/or unique elements on them. It's a non-issue, don't worry about it.
I would actually be more interested in seeing a listing of all of the big star weapons and what their elements are, but I haven't seen that anywhere and it seems on some no one's still sure on what they even are yet since it can be hard to notice (some subtly increase Reach for example).
I would actually be more interested in seeing a listing of all of the big star weapons and what their elements are, but I haven't seen that anywhere and it seems on some no one's still sure on what they even are yet since it can be hard to notice (some subtly increase Reach for example).
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
If the 4-star weapon's base ATK is 45+, it's definitely better their big star weapon.
ThirtyPlus
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Who's everyone's favorite overpowered non-boss type (Orochis, Susano-o) character? Mine are Zhou Tai and Xu Huang.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Xu Huang is definitely up there for me, despite the fact that I haven't used him much yet. Xiahou Yuan is amazing too. And of course Lianshi.
Also Zhou Yu, just by virtue of his amazing EX.
All 4* weapons max out at +18, all Big * weapons max out at +54. So a 44 ATK 4* maxed out will be 62 ATK. Big * weapons range from 8-12 ATK, so + 54 is 62-66 ATK maxed out. But I don't think any 4* base ATK even gets into the 50s, so it's completely inconsequential, especially when you consider that some of the Big * weapons have awesome inherent abilities when they're maxed out; for example IIRC one of Musashi's weapons get double Reach, and I've seen people say that if you slap an additional Reach +10 on there you're hitting shit so far behind you it's offscreen. When my attack is already around 500 total and I'm like halfway through the game at level 50, I will trade 6 points of ATK for double range, and it appears most (all?) of the characters have at least one Big * weapon that has a unique ability like that.
Also it looks like someone is putting together a Big * weapon listing here that seems like it may be useful.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
See, I had no idea that big star weapons had additional elements on them. That's interesting.
Also, I know that at least Lu Bu and Tadakatsu have 4* weapons that get into the 50's. Lu Bu's is exactly 50 and Tadakatsu's is 51. If Keiji's isn't 50, it's at least close.
FUUUUUUUU I've been doing too many expensive banquets.
Sure, but even with that I wouldn't stress about it in the slightest, that at the very outside gives you an additional 6-8 points at the very most assuming a character has one of the best 4* and the weakest Big *, and at only a ways into Chapter 3 my 3 main characters all have attacks stats at 400+. So even if there wasn't special elements on the Big * weapons, I'd tell people to just go for whatever looks cool, it's just not really going to matter at the end of the day.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Also, I can't help but laugh at the fact that Lu Bu's 4* is 50 and Tadakatsu's is 51.
Little bit of Japanese favoritism there, Koei? :lol
Little bit of Japanese favoritism there, Koei? :lol
I bit and loving this game. I've died more in this game than any other musuo game on normal. Maybe I'm rusty. I do wish there was a manual to explain things. No ability to adjust brightness is another thing I don't like. Some levels are just too dark.
Overall I am loving the game. Too bad it was not on disc (PS3), I would have loved to show my friends how much fun it is. Probably the best looking musuo game out there.
Is there a way to zoom map while in gameplay like the old musuo games?
Overall I am loving the game. Too bad it was not on disc (PS3), I would have loved to show my friends how much fun it is. Probably the best looking musuo game out there.
Is there a way to zoom map while in gameplay like the old musuo games?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Press the PS button and look directly under "Quit Game". I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Also, R3 zooms the map.
Thanks on both accounts! Navigating through those dark levels won't be as bad now.
Boogalogist
Member
Yeah..I hate that "bondage" thing as well. I've done all those bonds that require 2 characters. Now moving on to 3 characters. At least in Stage 4, there is a cheaper way of increasing the bonds between characters.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah, but you only need to get it past the first segment for the stage unlocks. And there's no real reason to worry about bonds after all the stages are unlocked. Well, there's that one trophy for raising bonds for one pair of characters to max, but I didn't even have to try to get that one. Just kinda happened naturally.
There is if you have an absurd need to max out everything possible in the game. :lol
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
AdawgDaFAB
Member
Pretty much. I have max bond for the 3 that will be my Chaos team when I'm done with S rank grinding, <3 that golden triple attack explosion + free auto support attacks. However, overall the bonds are pretty unimportant once you get all the stages unlocked (which isn't even hard at all if you just wait for chapter 4 and use the 3000 gem option).
Banquets all day long!
Pretty soon all the characters in my game will be as fat as Dong Zhuo!
razgriz417
Member
Ayane, Zhou Tai and Lian Shi are my staple right now (still in chapter 2). My god Ayane is freaking fast...tearing bitches apart.
Side question guys, so this is my first Orochi game and the whole True Triple attack still confuses me. How do you raise that bar? Is it just based on kills, or do you they only count if it was a kill using a charge/musou attack?
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Just combos, actually. If you use a character with a high combo rate (like Wang Yuanji or Zhurong), you can just mash your normal attack and fill the bar up within seconds.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
The triple attack is new to this game. You raise it by doing large combos and it's main use is to get lots of gems / crystals or just slow down time and do big damage to generals.
Characters with wide ranged multihits like Shuten Doji's C1 or all of Zhurong / Wang Yuanji's moveset can fill the meter incredibly fast. Not to mention there is a rare weapon attribute you can get that makes filling it even faster.
Characters with wide ranged multihits like Shuten Doji's C1 or all of Zhurong / Wang Yuanji's moveset can fill the meter incredibly fast. Not to mention there is a rare weapon attribute you can get that makes filling it even faster.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Hm...looks like I might have to rethink my dislike of Shingen. He's actually pretty great.
Bao Sanniang...that jumping charge attack that just lifts everyone up in a 360 around her is so damn fun. Also digging Ma Chao a lot. His EX and that musou...
And Ayane has become the new Nene of this game for me. Love her jumping charge to get into a crowd and then her c4 to clear it out.
razgriz417
Member
Ah ok thanks, for some reason i kept thinking it only occurred when I did Charge attacks. Good to know
EYEL1NER
Member
I didn't see it mentioned yet, but the "Warriors Orocho 3 DLC1 Weapon Pack" is up on XBL at 160 MSP. So we know it won't be free now (though I knew in the back of my mind it would cost money, it was wishful thinking on my part).
I'm debating getting it. I don't want to pay for a tiny pack of weapons for characters I don't use, but I love this game so much.
I'm debating getting it. I don't want to pay for a tiny pack of weapons for characters I don't use, but I love this game so much.
Zhou Tai is definitely my leading man, but as I've said above, Shuten Doji has definitely been another one of my fave characters, followed quickly by the likes of Nezha and Taigong Wang.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah, not buying that DLC. Sorry, Koei. Doesn't help that they didn't specify if there's anything special about the weapons, or if they're just reskins of the 4* weapons.
TheApatheticOne
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You're good people. Bao Sanniang and Ayane are two of my trio. Ding Feng leads the group, although I had Ma Chao in there for awhile!
dakkumauji
Member
They are pretty slow on releasing stuff. If they are following what they have done with DW7/XL, this might be the only DLC we'll see this month.
Diomedes
Member
Another thing while I'm here, not impressed with Player 2 integration. I mainly play warriors couch co-op style and have since DW2. DW7 did a superb job, in conquest at least, of bringing P2 along and making them feel part of the experience; this game feels like a step backwards.
Consider that after every battle, in story or free, P2 has to sign back in and select a team again (from P1's team, not neutral) is a huge pain in the ass. Text boxes during battle are also to blame; battle updates are positioned lower but character speech boxes are notorious for obstructing huge amounts of P2's screen while I often miss what they're saying because they're nowhere near where I am focusing. It feels as if they threw in P2 as an after thought, and considering what some people have said about online, maybe all of the MP was an afterthought. I've tried contacting Koei through various avenues but I feel like they could care less; they already have my money and I certainly can't return it on PSN.
It's unfortunate that these problems are detracting from our enjoyment of an otherwise exceptional game, but when you're reminded every time someone speaks or before another battle, it's difficult to forget.
Consider that after every battle, in story or free, P2 has to sign back in and select a team again (from P1's team, not neutral) is a huge pain in the ass. Text boxes during battle are also to blame; battle updates are positioned lower but character speech boxes are notorious for obstructing huge amounts of P2's screen while I often miss what they're saying because they're nowhere near where I am focusing. It feels as if they threw in P2 as an after thought, and considering what some people have said about online, maybe all of the MP was an afterthought. I've tried contacting Koei through various avenues but I feel like they could care less; they already have my money and I certainly can't return it on PSN.
It's unfortunate that these problems are detracting from our enjoyment of an otherwise exceptional game, but when you're reminded every time someone speaks or before another battle, it's difficult to forget.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Don't forget the fact that Player 2 can't obtain new weapons.
Diomedes
Member
From what I've seen, disagree. Which team, (i.e. P1 or P2) picks up the weapon box seems to determine the weapons received, unless you mean new as in higher star weapons, in which case I'm not certain, but fairly sure, and will have to check later.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I'll have to check again as well. I looked on KoeiWarriors and there seem to be dissenting opinions on this. Weird.
On 360, here's how 2 player Couch-Co-op works:
- Player 2 has to press start before a misson starts. This can be done at any time however, so it's very easy to work with.
- Player 2 gets to pick his own characters. They can have 3 fully original ones, or copy yours. Does not matter.
- The weapons and items they pick up are saved and added to your pool. If you and player 2 BOTH play the same character on a team, that character gets DOUBLE THE WEAPONS. (As in everything you pick up, and everything they pick up.)
-- Note that this take into account your wep options too. Thus, Player 2 has a Fortune Character with +10 Prosperity, they'll pick up amazing wep quality with that character,
-- while P1 with no fortune or prosperity will pick up junkier stuff. - Player 2 can do everything player 1 can. They can initiate events, clear missions, earn proficiency, increase weapon compatability, etc. They can also cause you to fail (such as getting lower than 30% HP when running one of those mission styles.)
- While playing a character, that character is their own instance. They can equip different items and weapons for the mission. But at stage end, the load-out and items that stay equiped are 1Ps, since they're the only "real" account / save on the system.
I don't know where the rumors that 2ps weapons don't count comes from. But I was plesantly suprised with how well 2P works in this game. The fact they can pick their own characters (Unlike Orochi 2, where they were forced to play a clone of yours) is a great addition.
Played through the entire game over multiple days with Couch co-op too, sooo... it was great